The Dark Knight Rises The Dark Knight Rises Info Hunters Thread - - - - - Part 1

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Never mind all that. Remember the hole that everybody said was the Pit?

Remember how SHALLOW it was? It looked to be about knee length if that.

Yeah, not really all that easy to sink into.
 
Or be a prison escape for Bane. :o

And knee length is enough for someone to engulf themselves in water lying down.
 
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Eh, we shall see.
Water is CGI-many times in movie, don't see why here would be any different.
 
Never mind all that. Remember the hole that everybody said was the Pit?

Remember how SHALLOW it was? It looked to be about knee length if that.

Yeah, not really all that easy to sink into.

They can make it as deep as they want. It had a green screen on it.
 
They can make it as deep as they want. It had a green screen on it.

Yes, which lends credence to it being a big hole after an explosion.

And since they were testing explosions before the India shoot...well, yeah. There you go.
 
Or maybe it's Bane's solitary confinement pit.

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Didn't they shoot Bale getting in and out of the hole?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt the pic with the green hole taken on the set that was outside of the fortress in India? So assuming that the fortress is a prison and the green stuff is for CGI effects it could very well have to deal with bane.
 
One day, we'll all look back on this in our senile old years and laugh.
 
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The fortress could also be the new temple of the League of Shadows
 
Didn't they shoot Bale getting in and out of the hole?

No. Bale was there, as was Pence apparently. But I don't think they got anything that was confirmed as far as filming goes.
 
Clearly, you didn't understand that scene. His immortality was hinted at because he used doubles. A fake one would die and a new Ra's would rise up again. Everyone would believe he could resurrect himself, which would make him immortal

Clearly you didn't understand that scene. I'd suggest you go and read the original script where it's made abundantly clear that there's no "title of Ra's" being passed down:

SOCIETY DAME
Bruce, there's somebody here you
simply must meet...

WAYNE
Mrs Delane, I can't just now...

She TURNS Wayne to face an ASIAN MAN in his fifties.

107.

SOCIETY DAME
Now, am I pronouncing it right..?

In the Asian Man's buttonhole is a DOUBLE-BLOOMED BLUE POPPY.

SOCIETY DAME (CONT'D)
Mr.Al Ghul?

The Asian Man nods. Wayne STARES at him.

WAYNE
You're not Ra's Al Ghul. He's dead.

The Society Dame laughs nervously, confused.

VOICE (O.S.)
But is Ra's Al Ghul immortal..?

Wayne TURNS. Standing there. Smiling. Ducard.

DUCARD
Are his methods supernatural..?

WAYNE
(understanding)
Or cheap parlor tricks to conceal
your trues identity.., Ra's?

Ducard (THE REAL RA'S AL GHUL) smiles acknowledgment.

DUCARD/RA'S AL GHUL
Surely you don't begrudge me dual
identities?

Ra's Al Ghul walks Wayne through the dwindling party.

RA'S AL GHUL
I've been admiring your work, even
as it's interfered with my plans...

Ra's Al Ghul looks at Wayne with a tinge of sadness.

RA'S AL GHUL (CONT'D)
You were my greatest student...
until you betrayed me.
 
No. Bale was there, as was Pence apparently. But I don't think they got anything that was confirmed as far as filming goes.

It took me a while to find it but this was what Times of India said about the shoot:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...525_1_christian-bale-batman-christopher-nolan

Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale's date with India got over on Monday morning, when they took a chartered flight back from Jodhpur to London. Both Nolan and Bale had arrived in India on May 4 and had shot for "The Dark Knight Rises" in front of and inside Jodhpur's Mehrangarh Fort on May 6 and 7. Accompanying Bale on this India trip was Josh Pence, the actor who was digitally superimposed with Armie Hammer's visage to portray one half of the Winklevoss twins in David Fincher's " The Social Network". Pence was recently cast as young Ra's Al Ghul and is one of Batman's greatest enemies.

Incidentally, a green screen was created just outside the Fort. Nolan shot in front of the green screen and used the Fort as the backdrop. Sources say that this backdrop of the Fort has been used to establish that Batman is in an exotic location which is isolated too. However, this backdrop isn't meant to be shown as India in the film. Back in the UK studios, this 30 ft x 30 ft green screen will be digitally modified to create the Lazarus Pit. For those not in the loop, a Lazarus Pit is used by Ra's Al Ghul for gaining restorative powers. Scenes of Bale being carried into the pit and then jumping out of it were also canned. A couple of locals were cast as extras in the scenes that were shot in India.

However, it was not all work and no play for the cast and crew of the film. "Despite the intense heat, filming continued without a hitch and the unit was satisfied with its Indian experience. The unit is supposed to have complimented the professionalism of the On The Road production unit handling the Indian leg of the shooting. On Sunday, the unit had a day off. So, Bale, who was accompanied by two children, took an autorickshaw ride in Jodhpur. However, no one really recognized him since he was wearing a cap and was sporting a beard. Besides, the whole team also went shopping. Bale bought textiles, shawls and pashmina from Jodhpur. The team also loved Indian food that was served to them during the shooting," says a source.

On Monday morning, around 9.30 am, Nolan, along with the cast, left for the UK. The rest of the film will be shot there.
 
It took me a while to find it but this was what Times of India said about the shoot:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...525_1_christian-bale-batman-christopher-nolan

Oh yeah, now I remember.

Why couldn't they see WHO was carrying Bale? I would think that would be pretty important.

How do they know that WAS Bale?

And I find it sincerely hard to believe that an Indian newspaper got such a huge plotpoint of the film with apparently no trouble at all.

Not buying it.
 
Oh yeah, now I remember.

Why couldn't they see WHO was carrying Bale? I would think that would be pretty important.

How do they know that WAS Bale?

And I find it sincerely hard to believe that an Indian newspaper got such a huge plotpoint of the film with apparently no trouble at all.

Not buying it.

My guess is they didn't think that the info about who carried him was significant enough to mention or that mentioning Bale being carried into the pit would reveal something so important. I don't think they're that informed with the Batman lore like the rest of us. Just my own speculations of course.
 
I'm confused, so question: are the stories true of Hathaway giving shiners and ripping through several cat suits, or are those just rumors? I'd really like to believe them. :hrt:
 
I don't see why going through numerous catsuits is so unbelievable; happens with costumes all the time, especially on movies like these.
 
I'm confused, so question: are the stories true of Hathaway giving shiners and ripping through several cat suits, or are those just rumors? I'd really like to believe them. :hrt:

I think that came from some rag, but I can't remember.
 
I don't see why going through numerous catsuits is so unbelievable; happens with costumes all the time, especially on movies like these.

Wasn't questioning the possibility; anyone can rip their clothes, and when in action only more. I was wondering if the facts were true; still need Catwoman picks. :awesome:
 
And the ones with the ripped clothes if possible...
 
Just out of curiousity, what's so unrealistic about a chemical turning a persons skin completely white? It doesn't sound so out there.

its not unrealistic. who said it was? :huh:

Based on the most common origin from the comics, please exlain to me how the Joker's skin could be permanently bleached white after falling into a vat of chemicals only one time for a matter of minutes.

This is not possible.

However, bleaching your skin is possible, but it's not probable or practical for a character like the Joker. Bleaching the skin would take alot of time and many repeated treaments to keep the skin white. It's also very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, you can give yourself chemical burns. The final product would never be truely white either, the blood flow under the skin would cause color to return.

Now, why would the Joker spent countless hours bleaching his skin when he could just put on makeup? He would spend all his time bleaching and no time being an agent of chaos. Sound like a pretty useless Joker to me, thus leading us to Nolan's Batman, which explains the reason why a permanently bleached Joker is not realistic.
 
Wasn't questioning the possibility; anyone can rip their clothes, and when in action only more. I was wondering if the facts were true; still need Catwoman picks. :awesome:
And the ones with the ripped clothes if possible...
There actually is such a pic out there, but... wow... this isn't going to be what you guys were expecting. I know I wasn't expecting it. I still don't know what to make of it...
michellepfeiffercatwoma.jpg

ME-OW!
I never said it was Anne Hathaway's Catwoman. :awesome:
 
I personally don't understand why The Anti-Lazarus Pit Movement has any credible argument regarding it "not being realistic." It's quite simple AND realistic in Nolan's world. It's not like it has to be some swimming pool filled with magical green goo from Planet X.

There are plenty of herbs in reality that have healing properties, for example. This is basic science. Eucalyptus oils and leaves improve concentration and reduce stress. Elders repel colds, fevers, rashes, burns, and teething. Lemon Balms stop insomnia and anxiety.

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It's based on fact. Herbs weren't an important key to the Resident Evil games just for the hell of it. They were scattered throughout the mansion and city because doctors were hopeful that they would help cure zombie test subjects. They help you heal as you play the game as well. Not the best example, but it's relevant in the world of fiction.

The Elder for example is part blueberry. Blueberries, spinach, and onions, just to name a few, are linked to cancer prevention. Green Teas have antioxidants that are linked to cancer prevention, and longer life expectancy. These cancer fighting agents come from plants, and can be purchased at your local grocery store. It's been proven to help the process.

I don't see why it's so unreasonable to link any of these things to the rare blue poppy flowers from Batman Begins. The Blue Poppy could be one of the herbs that has healing properties in addition to hallucinogenic properties. Why is it so ridiculous to have the League of Shadows create some kind of thick, green soup that combines herbs into a pit that helps heal someone through therapeutic means?

Women go to the spa and have a mud bath. They pay big bucks to have the herbs and vitamins in liquid dirt soak into their pores. They freakin' put slices of cucumbers over their eyelids. How is that any less ridiculous than a pit in the desert filled with medicinal herbs??

Most everything you've said here is based on facts so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but let me understand something:

You're telling me that such herbs can heal a man's broken spin...

and, if you believe as other here do, that we will in fact see Ra's Al Ghul resurrected in the next film...

which in turn would mean that you're telling that such herbs will bring a dead man back from the dead...

and the best example of that you can give is the fiction from a video game? Sorry man, I just don't see it.

I personally see a possible storyline involving:

1. Bane and Ra's use the Pit for healing and rejuvenating qualities.
2. Flashbacks of Bane being trained by Ra's involving the formation of the Pit.
3. Bane breaks Bruce's back in Gotham.
4. Bruce hears of the Pit and travels to India.
5. Bruce uses the Lazarus Pit to help his broken back while he re-trains.
6. Bruce comes back to Gotham.
... Why is this so ridiculous?

Wait until July 20, 2012 and you'll see how ridiculous this is.

Clearly you didn't understand that scene. I'd suggest you go and read the original script where it's made abundantly clear that there's no "title of Ra's" being passed down:

SOCIETY DAME
Bruce, there's somebody here you
simply must meet...

WAYNE
Mrs Delane, I can't just now...

She TURNS Wayne to face an ASIAN MAN in his fifties.

107.

SOCIETY DAME
Now, am I pronouncing it right..?

In the Asian Man's buttonhole is a DOUBLE-BLOOMED BLUE POPPY.

SOCIETY DAME (CONT'D)
Mr.Al Ghul?

The Asian Man nods. Wayne STARES at him.

WAYNE
You're not Ra's Al Ghul. He's dead.

The Society Dame laughs nervously, confused.

VOICE (O.S.)
But is Ra's Al Ghul immortal..?

Wayne TURNS. Standing there. Smiling. Ducard.

DUCARD
Are his methods supernatural..?

WAYNE
(understanding)
Or cheap parlor tricks to conceal
your trues identity.., Ra's?

Ducard (THE REAL RA'S AL GHUL) smiles acknowledgment.

DUCARD/RA'S AL GHUL
Surely you don't begrudge me dual
identities?

Ra's Al Ghul walks Wayne through the dwindling party.

RA'S AL GHUL
I've been admiring your work, even
as it's interfered with my plans...

Ra's Al Ghul looks at Wayne with a tinge of sadness.

RA'S AL GHUL (CONT'D)
You were my greatest student...
until you betrayed me.

I'd suggest you go and read my post... again. I never stated the title was handed down. That's something you came up with on your own.
 
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