Dark Phoenix $ The DARK PHOENIX Box Office Speculation ThreaD $

How much $$$ will Dark Phoenix earn at the box office?


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Not really, but whatever, is good to talk about this.



Thanks for sharing your opinion and your story, i appreciate it. However (and for the record, i never said the X-Men franchise was without flaws) that does not mean that they are bad movies, or bad adaptations. They have kept the essence even changin a lot of stuff from a lot of things.

And this what i cannot for the life of me understand: Everybody is always complaining "oh yeah sony/fox/warner totally mishandles the stories and characters" but disney does this too, half of the mcu movies are bad, they have mishandled complete stories and characters, wasted big chances to do a lot of great stuff, yet they are praised as if they were the example of filmmaking quality and faithfulness to the source, they completely ignore all the stuff they get wrong, why?

You say that fox has yet to deliver the X-Men of the movie they deserve, but when has disney done that for any of the characters? They never did, the closest they got was with the Captain America trilogy and is still flawed, the complaints everybody has over anything that is not the mcu is all over the mcu, yet they seem to look the other side regarding all its flaws, and is not like the little good stuff they did overcomes all the bad stuff.

So i dont get it, complaining about what all companies including disney get wrong but saying that only disney get its right it makes no sense.
This is where I strongly disagree with you, respectfully though. I never cared about Captain America, Iron Man, or Thor and the Gang (lol...sounds like a band), but MCU found a way to make me care. When I go back and read the old stories they borrowed from, in my opinon, the MCU movies are better. U can't for the life of me tell me that X3 was better than the comic's Phoenix Saga, can you? I was very very clear in my post to mention that I don't have a problem with people changing things and taking liberties to help best suit the medium that the stories are being told-- MCU has maintanied the essense of their characters they act, talk, and feel lilke the comic-counterparts. X-men has FAILED at this. I don't recognize Cyclops, Storm, Jean, Psylocke, Gambit, Iceman, Beast--- none of them maintain any integrity from the comic counter parts. If you disagree with that even after I was explicit and detailed in my post then I don't think i can anything that will make you see where I'm coming from. All i can say is be thankful you had 20 years with Fox (you seem to be happy w/their product)-- and I'm thankful that there ride is finally over and very enthused that MCU gets their turn. You as a fan got what you wanted, me as an Xmen fan didn't so i'm happy I finally get a real shot and what I'm looking for.
 


The "negative screenings" have been debunked as fake, and even if they were true, they come from the minds of people who disliked the movie from even before it started getting made, their opinions come from biased prejudice and therefore cannot be taken seriously.

This is where I strongly disagree with you, respectfully though. I never cared about Captain America, Iron Man, or Thor and the Gang (lol...sounds like a band), but MCU found a way to make me care. When I go back and read the old stories they borrowed from, in my opinon, the MCU movies are better. U can't for the life of me tell me that X3 was better than the comic's Phoenix Saga, can you? I was very very clear in my post to mention that I don't have a problem with people changing things and taking liberties to help best suit the medium that the stories are being told-- MCU has maintanied the essense of their characters they act, talk, and feel lilke the comic-counterparts. X-men has FAILED at this. I don't recognize Cyclops, Storm, Jean, Psylocke, Gambit, Iceman, Beast--- none of them maintain any integrity from the comic counter parts. If you disagree with that even after I was explicit and detailed in my post then I don't think i can anything that will make you see where I'm coming from. All i can say is be thankful you had 20 years with Fox (you seem to be happy w/their product)-- and I'm thankful that there ride is finally over and very enthused that MCU gets their turn. You as a fan got what you wanted, me as an Xmen fan didn't so i'm happy I finally get a real shot and what I'm looking for.

I never said that, what i said is that X3 is not the terrible movie everyone says it is, which is true!

The MCU has changed the essence of everyone but Captain America practically.
Look at Thor, Loki, Hulk, Odin and Hela in Thor Ragnarok by example: They are all 100% out of character. Look at Tony in Iron Man 3, he is a clown, the examples are endless, the problem is that they put "humoristic" storytelling over anything else, THAT is the single biggest flaw the mcu has.

X-Men have totally kept the essence of the characters and their stories, even thought they have changed lots of stuff, that is what any adaptation should do. They can and should do even better, but no company is gonna do it because we are not the target demographic, casual audiences are.

I doubt that after Captain Marvel/Avengers Endgame/Dark Phoenix i will ever gonna see another superhero movie in theaters, ALL OF THE STUDIOS have made too many mistakes and burned stories and characters too fast, stuff like Gotham Sirens, Shazam, Spiderman Far From Home, all the stuff sony is making and etc, they all look terrible and there is little chance they will not be terrible, so after those movies i mentioned i am out until something looks good, so i am feeling pretty indifferent at this point.
 
Let's agree to disagree. And it's like I said, you had 20 years of Fox and I"m happy it's coming to an end. And say what you want about MCU the fact is they have a far better track record of pleasing the masses than Fox does. You are in the major minority on this one for a reason, but to each his or her own. Praise God Fox is done with Xmen and Fantastic Four and praise God Marvel gets a crack at it.
 
Yeah sure, we can disagree, is just sad that the X-Men franchise is coming to an end. And yes, that is EXACTLY my point, the mcu is for casual audiences with a minimal pandering to the actual fans. The X-Men movies are for fans. I will not "praise God" that we will stop having quality movies because it is not something that makes me happy.
 
the x-men movies are for fans?
fans of what? Magneto and Charles? yiiikes.
most fans arent happy with Fox treatment to most of the x-men. where have you been these 19 years? :confused:
 
Is it just me ...or does anybody else feel the X-men aren't going to be utilized by the MCU the way everyone is hoping they will be?

IDK ... I have a funny feeling they are going to play second and third fiddle to the more "popular" MCU projects...

I guess we all have to do the waiting game and see ultimately...
 
Nope not at all. They aren't gonna get the Daredevil, Ghost Rider treatment.
 
the x-men movies are for fans?
fans of what? Magneto and Charles? yiiikes.
most fans arent happy with Fox treatment to most of the x-men. where have you been these 19 years? :confused:
THANK YOU! Fans of what- couldn't have said it better myself. That MewMewTwo is delusional and a hardcore Fox fan, but good for him. And good for the rest of the 'real fans' of Xmen who will be free of Fox. It's odd that that person doesn't seem to get that outcry from X-men fans for years and years. That person is under the impression that the xmen community at large is happy when in truth that's not been my experience with fans at all. But like I said, to each his or her own.
 
I mean, this is the boxoffice topic after all, so we only have to look to the x-men movies boxoffice to see the fans are anything but happy lol.

The X-Men always were at the top of the tops, but the movies (except Dofp) are the bottom of the bottom. That tells us everything about the perception of these movies.
 
I mean, this is the boxoffice topic after all, so we only have to look to the x-men movies boxoffice to see the fans are anything but happy lol.

The X-Men always were at the top of the tops, but the movies (except Dofp) are the bottom of the bottom. That tells us everything about the perception of these movies.
So very true! But you can even dig deeper than that. When you look at the best selling comics of all time, when you look at the titles that were constantly the best sellers, and when you look at big storylines that ignited big interest the X-Men ruled! The easily beat out Batman, Superman, Avengers, and Spider-man-- they were the cream of the crop. YOu compare that w/their popularity today and you compare that with box office of their movies and it's beyond shocking. You hit it right on the head... the box office numbers tell you everything you need to know. And I for one, want better for the Xmen, they deserve it!
 
no doubt.

Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Psylocke, Angel, Jubilee, Kitty and co. deserve much much more than what Fox and Kinberg have done.
 
the x-men movies are for fans?
fans of what? Magneto and Charles? yiiikes.
most fans arent happy with Fox treatment to most of the x-men. where have you been these 19 years? :confused:

X-Men comic books, obviously. And yeah, compared to what Disney/Sony and Warner did/do, they are a lot more for fans than casual audiences.

THANK YOU! Fans of what- couldn't have said it better myself. That MewMewTwo is delusional and a hardcore Fox fan, but good for him. And good for the rest of the 'real fans' of Xmen who will be free of Fox. It's odd that that person doesn't seem to get that outcry from X-men fans for years and years. That person is under the impression that the xmen community at large is happy when in truth that's not been my experience with fans at all. But like I said, to each his or her own.

Delusional? Do i have to report you? And no, i am not a "hardcore fan", i really love the stories and characters, i dont want them to be in mediocre movies made by family friendly Disney.

I missed the "outcry" from "fans" because i barely used the internet at the time, remember the franchise is practically 20 years old, and some people call themselves fans and then they say something like Thor Ragnarok is a great movie, rendering their opinions pointless.

I have no idea what the "community" thinks, but if it is the same people who wants every superhero franchise under the disney wing, i could care less about what they think, to be honest.
 
and some people call themselves fans and then they say something like Thor Ragnarok is a great movie, rendering their opinions pointless.

LMAO, best comment of the year. That's super-true.
 
Writer/Director/Producer Simon Kinberg didn't say Dark Phoenix "was very much inspired by" Ragnarok cause it sucked. The film was beloved by critics and fans, made $850M bucks and was a GD frikkin' delight. Laugh out loud hilarity with fantastic characters, amazing battles, gorgeous Kirby inspired designs, and a thoughtful plot about colonialism. Plus Led Zeppelin.
 
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