Dark Phoenix $ The DARK PHOENIX Box Office Speculation ThreaD $

[psylockolussus]

A horrendous Marvel Studios or Star Wars film written and directed by himself?

The GA right now: "If you're not a Marvel Studios pic or a live action Disney remake, then just don't talk to me"

Or a Disney animated film.

 

[SumT]

General Audiences outright rejected Simon Kinberg's directorial debut. If *that* Rottentomatoes score and *that* opening weekend haul, and *that* second weekend drop doesn't end this man's directing career, I don't know what will.

only God could take him away then.

 

[I Am The Knight]

General Audiences outright rejected Simon Kinberg's directorial debut. If *that* Rottentomatoes score and *that* opening weekend haul, and *that* second weekend drop doesn't end this man's directing career, I don't know what will.

Well he has that Chastain movie lined up next.

 

[SumT]

would be hilarious if that movie makes double of Dark phoenix numbers lol.

 

[Kanon]

77% would rival the highest drops of all time for a major big budget release, wouldn’t it?

Yes it would: Biggest Second Weekend Drops at the Box Office

Only Steel would have had a bigger drop in terms of comic book movies!

That chart makes it easy to find movies with similar OW and 2nd week drops. The Purge and The Devil inside had numbers similar to Dark Phonix, and ended with 64M and 53M DOM. Friday the 13th 2009 had a better OW and ended with 65M

 

[Detective Conan]

The bad news keep on coming.

Seriously, most of us here thought this movie was going to be bad for the franchise (or what's left of it). I certainly have been one of the more vocal critics of this movie and Kinberg's.

Of all our worst case scenarios, I don't think anyone thought this would get 23% on Rottentomatoes, $33Mil opening weekend, a significant decrease at the Worldwide box office, and now it's not even making the Top 5 (it's number 6) on its second weekend.

Edit: I just saw the 77% drop. OUCH. I thought it was a drop from last friday to this friday so I didn't pay attention to it. I didn't know they meant for the weekend. I remember Ang Lee's Hulk was dragged for having a 69% drop. 77% is just unheard of.

Most of us were already super-pessimistic about this film but never in our worst nightmares did we expect it to be this horrendous.

Reality made us look kind of optimistic, lol.

Damn, this situation has become really dire. I feel almost bad for Kinberg if I didn’t know he was super-wealthy already

 

[EnDz0n3]

Well he has that Chastain movie lined up next.

Who knows? One of the stars already dropped out, only to be replaced by Dianne Kruger, which is...good for them (Kinberg's still got it! Though landing her was probably before anyone outside the studio knew this movie was going to be a 23 percenter turd).

I wouldn't be surprised if Chastain (who's got duds of her own) or the studio or both found a way for Kinberg to drop out amicably (the ole' Darren Aronofsky The Wolverine excuse:
“As I talked more about the film with my collaborators at [insert name of studio], it became clear that the production of [insert name of film] would keep me out of the country for almost a year. I was not comfortable being away from my family for that length of time. I am sad that I won’t be able to see the project through, as it is a terrific script and I was very much looking forward to working with my friend, [insert name of friend that helped you land the gig], again.”

 

[Detective Conan]

Simon Kinberg Speaks Out About The Film’s Box Office Failure For First Time.

 

[Detective Conan]

Kinberg is doing reshoots on New Mutants?

Is Disney insane?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Kinberg might be a nice guy. He might even be a pretty good producer. But the man cannot write for squat and he should really take a step away from that career path. It isn't like it is his only job in the industry and he needs to do it to make a living.

 

[Detective Conan]

I’m surprised he’s directing another movie so soon after DP bombed so badly. I wonder how’ll that will go. Patty Jenkins didn’t direct another movie for 13 years after her debut film but Kinberg is already about to jump back into the director’s chair so soon after his first film was a critical and commercial dud.

Ain’t that a b*tch.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I’m surprised he’s directing a movie so soon after DP bombed so badly. I wonder how’ll that will go.

No doubt the boards will be a repeat of the DPh production. There will still be some that will be aggressively defending the man, no matter what.

 

[Detective Conan]

90%? Jesus....This film just can't catch a break.

 

[samsnee]

The performance of this movie continues to amaze me. It’s definitely outdone my expectations.

 

[Mysteryman]

Well he has that Chastain movie lined up next.

Yeah and Kinberg might be in the doghouse but Jessica Chastain isnt, and the sequel to It wiil keep her box office momentum going long enough to get 355 made.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

90%???? Holy....

EDIT: Oh, we're talking about China.

 

[psylockolussus]

I’m surprised he’s directing another movie so soon after DP bombed so badly. I wonder how’ll that will go. Patty Jenkins didn’t direct another movie for 13 years after her debut film but Kinberg is already about to jump back into the director’s chair so soon after his first film was a critical and commercial dud.

Ain’t that a b*tch.

The neXt Paul W.S. Anderson?

 

[I Am The Knight]

Simon Kinberg Speaks Out About The Film’s Box Office Failure For First Time.

Well, at least he's humble enough. He doesn't seem to have that Snyder "you don't get mah mooobee" attitude.

Him doing reshoots on NM is funny. It's like he's the go-to-guy to "fix" these X-Films.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

‘Men in Black: International’ Flops With $25M Opening As Sequelitis Prevails At Box Office – Deadline

Now Deadline is estimating 8.2m (75% drop) for the second weekend.

 

[Frankeh]

Movie dropped 83%.

 

[Detective Conan]

Box Office: 'X-Men: Dark Phoenix' Plunges Record 83% On Friday

The Fox/Disney release should earn around $51.352 million by tomorrow night, so at least it'll pass the respective opening weekends of The Wolverine ($53 million in 2013), X-Men ($54 million in 2000) and X-Men: First Class ($55 million in 2011). At this rate of descent, it'll lose screens by the barrel on Friday as Toy Story 4, Child's Play and Anna open in wide release, so even a $75 million domestic finish may be a pipe dream for the $200 million-budgeted Simon Kinberg flick.

For reference, the last "Dark Phoenix" movie, X-Men: The Last Stand, earned $77 million in its first two days of domestic release. Considering the budgetary differences, this will be a much bigger loss for all parties than Fantastic Four, which earned $56 million domestic and $167 million worldwide from a $120 million budget. Even presuming a 30/70 split, a $75 million finish for Dark Phoenix would mean just $250 million worldwide, or well under the $299 million global cume of the first X-Men back in 2000.

Jesus.... the bolded part. Dark Phoenix may not be a disaster from a quality standpoint but its undeniably a disaster from a box office standpoint.

 

[samsnee]

People just don’t care about this cast.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Movie dropped 83%.

From Friday to Friday, not weekend to weekend.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

People just don’t care about this cast.

There is a lot more to it than just that. Apocalypse grossed over double this will with the same cast.

 

[Detective Conan]

People just don’t care about this movie.

Fixed.