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Curious to hear what the plan for this "reset" is, because everything we've been hearing about Black Adam, Shazam, Flash and Aquaman points to anything but a reset.

Just incredibly confusing across the board. And all the while he's working for a studio in crippling debt. I don't envy the guy at all.
 
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Curious to hear what the plan for this "reset" is, because everything we've been hearing about Black Adam, Shazam, Flash and Aquaman points to anything but a reset.

Just incredibly confusing across the board. And all the while he's working for a studio in crippling debt. I don't envy the guy at all.

A reset doesn't necessarily mean a reboot. It could just mean that they're not gonna follow through with the previously planned Keaton Batman/Batgirl/Supergirl future of the DCEU.
 
Without the likes of Bruce Timm and Paul Dini, I'm still not interested in any DCEU future.
 
The people who are (were?) trying to make a documentary about JL Mortal have said that it is very difficult because nobody at WB is willing to talk about it. Wonder if that might change now.

EDIT: Update from the director of the documentary

 
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This old comment from Lin is interesting:

Dan Lin said:
Yeah. I mean it’s…I’ll say it’s the reason I started my company. You know, I thought that was the ultimate project. I was a fan-boy for me to work with all those characters together on a team and kind of the themes of that movie. That’s my dream. It’s on-hold right now as DC sorts out its strategy but as you’ve talked to Alan Horn and Jeff Robinov it seems like they’re building to Justice League instead of going with the team movie first and doing individual movies after that.

So it sounds like his plan around the time of Justice League Mortal was to start with the big team-up movie and then branch out solo films from that foundation, which is exactly the approach I've been advocating for for a while now. I wonder if he still subscribes to that idea.
 
This old comment from Lin is interesting:



So it sounds like his plan around the time of Justice League Mortal was to start with the big team-up movie and then branch out solo films from that foundation, which is exactly the approach I've been advocating for for a while now. I wonder if he still subscribes to that idea.

That's kind of what they tried to do with the DCEU though. BvS -> Justice League -> Batman/Aquaman/Flash/Cyborg/Green Lantern.
 
That's kind of what they tried to do with the DCEU though. BvS -> Justice League -> Batman/Aquaman/Flash/Cyborg/Green Lantern.
That's more of an indictment on the quality and execution of BvS than it is on the concept.
 
“Dini/Timm should run DC films” is one of the laziest fan ideas out there. And Timm in particular is seemingly past his creative prime at this point.

Dini and Timm understand these characters. That can't be argued, Now it's possible that they wouldn't be a good fit for live action but we'll never know if WB won't give them a chance.
 
Dini and Timm understand these characters. That can't be argued,

For some non Batman related characters, yes, that very much can be argued.

Now it's possible that they wouldn't be a good fit for live action but we'll never know if WB won't give them a chance.

Yes, let's give the guy who isn't even great in his own actual medium anymore a chance to run a medium he doesn't have much, if any experience in. Assuming either he or Dini even want this particular job in the first place.
 
For some non Batman related characters, yes, that very much can be argued.



Yes, let's give the guy who isn't even great in his own actual medium anymore a chance to run a medium he doesn't have much, if any experience in. Assuming either he or Dini even want this particular job in the first place.

What's so bad that Timm has done? The added prologue to the Killing Joke animated movie? One bad creative decision doesn't negate decades of solid work.
 
I think we’re heading towards a Justice League Rebirth film probably with the original Snyder cast. I think Hamada’s Crisis film that he was building towards is out.
 
DC chiefs were always under the control of whoever was WB chairman. This dude won't. That's unprecedented
 
I think we’re heading towards a Justice League Rebirth film probably with the original Snyder cast. I think Hamada’s Crisis film that he was building towards is out.

just recast the flash and cyborg roles.

ezra been a very naughty child - cannot keep them.
ray's burned his bridge with wb - so there's a mutual distaste they have for each other. i dug him alot in the role, but if they having cyborg back, it's definitely not gonna be fisher.

is ben really coming back?
dood always come off as wishy-washy with will he or won't he..at least optics wise.
probably more the studio's fault than his though.

wb just better keep their grubby hands off reeves' batman sequels.
 
just recast the flash and cyborg roles.

ezra been a very naughty child - cannot keep them.
ray's burned his bridge with wb - so there's a mutual distaste they have for each other. i dug him alot in the role, but if they having cyborg back, it's definitely not gonna be fisher.

is ben really coming back?
dood always come off as wishy-washy with will he or won't he..at least optics wise.
probably more the studio's fault than his though.

wb just better keep their grubby hands off reeves' batman sequels.

Everybody that Fisher had a beef with is now gone. I hope they get him back. Agreed about Ezra though.
 
What's so bad that Timm has done? The added prologue to the Killing Joke animated movie? One bad creative decision doesn't negate decades of solid work.

He also wrote that bad Batman & Harley film, and as far as I can tell, hasn't had a hand in a truly quality project in years.

Obviously one (and in Timm's case, more than one) bad decision doesn't negate years of solid work. But let's not pretend that artists are immune to the quality of their work declining over time.
 
Justice League Gods and Monsters was good. Look, all I'm saying is that a few misfires (and the quality of those movies is debatable) is not proof enough of Timm being in decline and that he couldn't cut it if he was put in charge of DC live action movies.
 
I find this ironic...determining what isn't "proof enough", while arguing that two guys with little, as far as I can tell, experience in the live action film arena, should be given a shot at being the DC equivalent of a man who has spent most of his career working on live action films.
 

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