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[Vlyse]

I don't believe they're mutually exclusive goals. Wonder Woman and Aquaman are huge brands atm, and with what Reeves is cooking Batman appears back on track. That's half the League.

But it is true there is no word on the other half at all. The Flash is in limbo and no news on Superman or Lantern Corps outside of HBO Max.

Wonder if they just throw in all the characters that have huge brand, including Harley and Black Adam (The Rock) ...

 

[The Overlord]

I don't believe they're mutually exclusive goals. Wonder Woman and Aquaman are huge brands atm, and with what Reeves is cooking Batman appears back on track. That's half the League.

But it is true there is no word on the other half at all. The Flash is in limbo and no news on Superman or Lantern Corps outside of HBO Max.

Wonder if they just throw in all the characters that have huge brand, including Harley and Black Adam (The Rock) ...

Except they seem to have a better track record with stand-alone movies than trying to make their own universe. Their actors for DCEU Batman and Superman are gone and a lot of the DCEU movies were terrible or disappointing. How would they avoid another Justice League debacle if they tried to restart the DCEU? They rushed their universe and it fell flat on its face, maybe the stand-alone approach is better?

 

[MadVillainy]

I wonder if WB should give up on the DCEU and stick to stand-alone films. Joker made a ton of money and Justice League lost a ton of money.

I think they pretty much have given up on the DCEU. At least the idea of crossovers as such.
I don't think we'll see a JL film for a decade at least.
I don't know if they still want to do Flashpoint, to feature Momoa and Gadot in it, but I think that's a risk too. And then of course Shazam vs BLack Adam

 

[Rorschach2012]

They still need to get rid of Ezra Miller. They’ve gotten rid of every other problematic cast member.

 

[Micromind]

I wonder if WB should give up on the DCEU and stick to stand-alone films. Joker made a ton of money and Justice League lost a ton of money.

Aquaman also made a ton of money, every DCEU movie has made a lot of money (except Shazam and JL).

And as far as making solo DC movies, WB has a mixed track record so far (Superman Returns, Green Lantern, Jonah Hex, Catwoman) so nothing is guranteed, just make good, entertainjng movies, it does not matter whether it's stand alone or not.

 

[thangaran]

I think an Ezra Miller solo Flash film could really be special with the right writing and direction. They need to tone down his jokey portrayal but something slightly more serious yet with some sly comedy could work so well.

Damn shame that we will never see Rick Famuyiwa directed Flash. His work on the second episode of Mandalorian was awesome. He had a good command of sfx, pace and the episode was so well directed.

 

[mclay18]

Does anyone think that if Cavill's Netflix series takes off, will he get back on WB's radar?

I mean, WB is all in on Millie Brown after "Stranger Things"...

 

[Gamma Goliath]

He was superman I dont think he was ever "off their radar"

 

[RomanticPenguin]

Aquaman also made a ton of money, every DCEU movie has made a lot of money (except Shazam and JL).

Man of Steel made $42M profit according to deadline, how much did Shazam make?

 

[I Am The Knight]

They should've sold Shazam to Netflix

 

[MadVillainy]

Does anyone think that if Cavill's Netflix series takes off, will he get back on WB's radar?

I mean, WB is all in on Millie Brown after "Stranger Things"...

I doubt Cavill will be Supes again, but I'm sure WB/Cavill will work together again

 

[DlAMONDZ]

I wonder if WB should give up on the DCEU and stick to stand-alone films. Joker made a ton of money and Justice League lost a ton of money.

They gave up last year

Have ya'll not been paying attention? They parted ways with Cavill and then on multiple occasions said they were done with shared universes. This thread's title should've been changed a while ago

 

[Micromind]

Man of Steel made $42M profit according to deadline, how much did Shazam make?

I don't know whether Deadline took into account the money WB made even before MoS was released in terms of Product placements in the movie. If they did, then I doubt the profit would be just $42M.

Superman is already a $170m brand superhero as Man of Steel tops the

The clamour to reference products has been so strong that Warner Bros has almost 100 promotional partners lined up, which has earned it $170m (£109m) already.


Brands including the US car manufacture Chrysler are now thought to have given Man of Steel the dubious accolade of having accrued the most advertising brands ever associated with a film.


Before doing any business at the box office, the film has recouped three-quarters of the $225m it cost to make.

As for Shazam ! it made 3.65 times it Production Budget, it's safe to say it did more than just break-even, and I'm not even adding the money any of these movies earned by selling merch or Blurays here.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Regarding that $170 million figure for MOS, I don't think that's money the studio actually gets. My understanding is that the number is the overall value of the advertisement / sponsorship placements from all those companies who agreed to partner with WB on MOS, but I could be wrong...

 

[RomanticPenguin]

I don't know whether Deadline took into account the money WB made even before MoS was released in terms of Product placements in the movie. If they did, then I doubt the profit would be just $42M.

Superman is already a $170m brand superhero as Man of Steel tops the


As for Shazam ! it made 3.65 times it Production Budget, it's safe to say it did more than just break-even, and I'm not even adding the money any of these movies earned by selling merch or Blurays here.

So you don't have the Shazam numbers and official MoS numbers are $42M

how has "every DCEU movie has made a lot of money (except Shazam and JL)."?

 

[TheGuy]

 

[I Am The Knight]

Shazam in Suicide Squad pls.

 

[Flash525]

I don't believe they're mutually exclusive goals. Wonder Woman and Aquaman are huge brands atm, and with what Reeves is cooking Batman appears back on track. That's half the League.

But it is true there is no word on the other half at all. The Flash is in limbo and no news on Superman or Lantern Corps outside of HBO Max.

Unless I'm mistaken, the League has always had a minimum of seven members, the core five being Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman, Flash and a Lantern. Aquaman is obviously going to be a factor in the DCEU we'll come to know, as will the first three mentioned here.

Flash should be, but the Titans show is lacking Wally West, and so a lack of Barry Allen wouldn't be totally impossible (as weird as it would seem). I figure characters like Superman don't need another introduction, everyone is aware of who and what he is, so he could simply be in it. Alternatively, if the DCEU wants to mix things up a bit, introduce Supergirl in his place?

If a threat is earthbound, then I'd honestly not mind a Lantern simply coming to assist; I don't feel we'd need an origin story, especially if one were to enter the situation late into a film, kinda like Superman did in Dawn of Justice. You could also (potentially) introduce someone like Hawkgirl or Hawkman via the Black Adam film, and have them (a reincarnated version of them?) be present in a JL film, or even use Shazam.

 

[thangaran]

I think Zack’s original 5 arc vision would have honestly cost 300 mill per film. Honestly the scale of a cosmic Justice League film would need an absolutely massive budget even more than the budget of IW and EG

 

[Vaibow]

The DCEU has success with:
WW, AM, Shazam - so makes sense to continue these stories and get what they can from, i would say abother WW sequel to give us a trilogy and i would expect AM2 (but i highly doubt AM2 will break a billion again, i just don't) and shazam needs to really focus on family friendly, kid appeal - which is fine.
At this point, they don't need to reference or mention other heroes aside for a passing comment, news article to show it's a hared universe still.

MOS - i still have faith a sequel would work, but main players Cavill and Adams, Fishburn need to be involved still.

Flash - same as above for MOS

.........

Reboots
The Batman is its own thing and the cast looks solid.

WB can then (after WW3, AM2, Shazam2) reboot everything to line it up with the batman universe - it be shared, but... they don't team up until they are ready.

The Rock is a huge star and WB/DC will want to lock him from more than one movie so it will be interesting if it's a standalone, linked to shazam or waiting to see what happens next.

.......

My dream scenario, keep 'the batman' seperate - carry on with WW3, AM2, Shazam/Black adam, MOS 2, flash, then link the tv Green Lanterns to this universe.

Batman will be missing from this universe moving forward, unless they recast or get Ben Back as a retired Bruce and introduce Nightwing - i would just prefer an in universe story that Bruce has hung up the cowl and works from the cave - a man just can't compete with these gods.

 

[Prettyricky]

What I’m seeing and of course my own interpretation of the current DC slate the next 2-3 years.

joker- it’s own one off film, no sequels despite rumors

Batman- it’s own trilogy with no connections like Nolan’s trilogy

WW- 2 and 3 to finish the trilogy then Gal moves on like affleck

SS- possibly a 3rd movie with gunn if a hit and maybe spinoffs of some of the villians

Flash-will get a solo movie but new lead and director with a light tone

HQ- after SS her role she’ll move on like affleck

SZ 2- will be greenlit if black Adam is a hit

BA- will be a hit and setup shazam and black Adam future movies

That’s all I got, as you can see it’s all over the place with no real overall path just solo movies and one offs

 

[Vaibow]

I do believe they will finish the DCEU with an event type movie.. probably a Kingdom Come style in all honesty.

 

[Gandhi]

What I’m seeing and of course my own interpretation of the current DC slate the next 2-3 years.

joker- it’s own one off film, no sequels despite rumors

Batman- it’s own trilogy with no connections like Nolan’s trilogy

WW- 2 and 3 to finish the trilogy then Gal moves on like affleck

SS- possibly a 3rd movie with gunn if a hit and maybe spinoffs of some of the villians

Flash-will get a solo movie but new lead and director with a light tone

HQ- after SS her role she’ll move on like affleck

SZ 2- will be greenlit if black Adam is a hit

BA- will be a hit and setup shazam and black Adam future movies

That’s all I got, as you can see it’s all over the place with no real overall path just solo movies and one offs

I think it's highly unlikely Margot Robbie moves on after the Suicide Squad sequel. There are rumours they are considering 'Gotham City Sirens' and 'BoP vs GCS' as potential sequels if 'Birds of Prey' is a hit.

The only thing to consider with her and the Harley Quinn character is if a potential 'Gotham City Sirens' movie was to happen, would they use Zoe Kravitz now that she's been cast as Catwoman? And on the flip side, if Matt Reeves was to use Harley Quinn, would it be Margot Robbie?

 

[Prettyricky]

I think it's highly unlikely Margot Robbie moves on after the Suicide Squad sequel. There are rumours they are considering 'Gotham City Sirens' and 'BoP vs GCS' as potential sequels if 'Birds of Prey' is a hit.

The only thing to consider with her and the Harley Quinn character is if a potential 'Gotham City Sirens' movie was to happen, would they use Zoe Kravitz now that she's been cast as Catwoman? And on the flip side, if Matt Reeves was to use Harley Quinn, would it be Margot Robbie?

Yea but I keep feeling like her character is a better side character and not the kind you can launch a brand or franchise around. Then again we’ve only really seen her in a supporting role in SS four years ago. We’re gonna get her 2 years in a row coming up so we’ll see where this goes but if she walks away I won’t be shocked.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

I think it's highly unlikely Margot Robbie moves on after the Suicide Squad sequel. There are rumours they are considering 'Gotham City Sirens' and 'BoP vs GCS' as potential sequels if 'Birds of Prey' is a hit.

The only thing to consider with her and the Harley Quinn character is if a potential 'Gotham City Sirens' movie was to happen, would they use Zoe Kravitz now that she's been cast as Catwoman? And on the flip side, if Matt Reeves was to use Harley Quinn, would it be Margot Robbie?

Different continuities so I'd imagine they would just cast their own Catwoman and Harley