The FFINO ZONE - Part 1

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Ragnaroknroll said:
If Fox wants to save face, they make some kind of a deal. But I don't think they will. And if they choose to squat on these rights for yet another seven years I hope that vindictiveness and spite starts to hurt their other Marvel properties. As it stands right now, after what Fox has done to the FF for the third time in a row and after the blatant dishonesty they've fed to fans and moviegoers during all of this, I'm not watching any of their Marvel films in the theater ever again. Best case I'll catch 'em on on Netflix or cable or Redbox if the reviews are decent. After First Class they started to earn my good will back but this? For this FF fan? This is unforgivable.
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I am with you on this. Also, like your Avatar.

Surfer
 
Barry Parker said:
So, all signs point to this movie bombing...But what do you guys think Fox does next? Do they try to strike a deal with Marvel? Do they just sit on the rights and try again in 6-7 years? Do they wait for the rights to revert?
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I'm having trouble separating what I hope to happen from what I want to happen.

But if I were to speculate, I'm starting with the idea that Fox, Marvel and everybody else knows that Fox isn't going to make an other FF film in the next 7 years.

Because of that, Fox will be willing to turn the rights back over for a song. But why should Marvel give them a song? Marvel knows they won't make another film which means in 7 years they get the rights back for free.

But after playing that game 2 years ago, Marvel got burnt when Fox actually made this crap, so I think Marvel may be a little more motivated than before to just lock things up and be done with it.

With all that in mind, I think Fox and Marvel will be talking in the coming weeks. Eventually, I think Marvel will give either some cash or possibly reduce their cut of X-Men or maybe offer something else X-Men related (merchandising, TV rights etc.).

It will probably take a while, but I think within a year Marvel will have rights to FF, Silver Surfer, Galactus, Doom etc.

Then, hopefully, they start working those characters into their plans and films. I think it's very realistic that we could see a pre-accident Reed Richards in an upcoming Marvel film, for example.
 
Maybe Fox views the tv rights to X-Men as something worth giving up the Fantastic 4 rights over? The question would be if Marvel would give up that sort of power for what is now a really damaged property.
 
I think they'll make a deal. Whether it brings back the FF in their entirety or just select characters, who knows.

As far as we know, Fox doesn't own the merchandising rights to the X-Men, and needs the OK from Marvel for an X-Men TV show. Either of those could be enough for Fox to consider a deal, with some added monetary bonuses of course.
 
MahvelBaby! said:
Maybe Fox views the tv rights to X-Men as something worth giving up the Fantastic 4 rights over? The question would be if Marvel would give up that sort of power for what is now a really damaged property.
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I think they would, if not just for Silver Surfer, Galactus, etc. Isn't there already plans for an X-Men show though?
 
C. Lee said:
Me neither....at this point they are like a petulant baby that would rather sit in their soiled diaper than ask for a change.
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If "Fox" were an individual, I could see this, but I think one thing we have to keep in mind is Fox is run by a group of individuals.

Many of those individuals never wanted to make the film, and those specific people wanted to take a deal two years ago. Others insisted on pushing this film through.

Now the ones who wanted to deal before are able to say: "I told you so" while the ones who wanted to charge forward have their tails between their legs.

And NOBODY in Fox management seriously wants to touch another FF film again.

So I think Fox will be willing to deal. The problem may be that Marvel will just gloat and not offer anything.
 
Endeavor said:
This is what I think they'll do.
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Yeah, but I think that even if in 7 years they made a great Fantastic Four movie that the distrust from their previous movies would insure that they do not succeed. It is hard to get a bad taste out of people's mouths.

Surfer
 
I honestly don't think Marvel would be willing to give away that kind of power over fox, on the flip side, Marvel doesn't NEED FF back and they know this.
 
Im curious why a lot of you think FOX will make a deal. What are you basing this off of?

C. Lee said:
Me neither....at this point they are like a petulant baby that would rather sit in their soiled diaper than ask for a change.
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Ha ha. That's a good way to put it.
 
C. Lee said:
Me neither....at this point they are like a petulant baby that would rather sit in their soiled diaper than ask for a change.
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exactly. Just because they messed up doesnt mean they'll want to give it to a rival company who have a track record of making very profitable (especially with the merchandising) comic book films
 
Fox is gonna try and make a Surfer movie next. You just watch.

The Avi Arading sons of Arads... :argh:
 
Surfer said:
Yeah, but I think that even if in 7 years they made a great Fantastic Four movie that the distrust from their previous movies would insure that they do not succeed. It is hard to get a bad taste out of people's mouths.

Surfer
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I'm not saying it's the right choice or even the smart one, but it's what they're likely to do.
 
Is there anything to stop Fox just pumping out a shorter, cheaper, and more slap-dash movie in six years' time?
 
regwec said:
Is there anything to stop Fox just pumping out a shorter, cheaper, and more slap-dash movie in six years' time?
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Disney / Marvel could always claim that no Fantastic Four movie was made, as this truly looks to be FFINO, and I think most fans would stand behind them.:yay:

Surfer
 
biggles2000uk said:
exactly. Just because they messed up doesnt mean they'll want to give it to a rival company who have a track record of making very profitable (especially with the merchandising) comic book films
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They don't have a choice at this point. The way the movie is tracking at this point a 40M open is the best case scenario, and in all likely hood we could be talking a sub-40 open. I think alot of people are going to go see MI instead of this. In fact I would not be surprised to see an amazing 2nd week hold for MI, which would effectively kill this film.

There's no way a sequel moves forward, which means they'd either have to reboot again (which no one would want), so the rights would eventually go back.
 
That's the thing- I don't think you can just alienate proprietary rights because they are used to make crap.
 
Even if Disney doesn't win - if they can keep another travesty like this out of theaters I'm all for it.
 
The judge could call it a gross miss use of a property that was entrusted to them.

Surfer
 
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