The FFINO ZONE - Part 2

[Dasher10]

Metacritic just dropped their score to 29. It's now officially below 30 on Metacritic which puts it lower than most of Michael Bay's films.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

he'll be back.

he always comes back.

He'll come armed with his dictionary and over engineered sentences.

 

[The Infernal]

Evidentiary parameters. lol

 

[Val_Zod]

I don't think anyone can deny that there were bts problems now.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think anyone can deny that there were bts problems now.

Plenty of movies have them, and sometimes they still turn out to be success stories. Case in point Mad Max: Fury Road. Apocalypse Now. Plenty of others.

 

[VictorDomashev]

he'll be back.

he always comes back.

They will celebrate any number this movie makes come Sunday. Even if this somehow does $40 Million. We can bring it up that Fox probably only gets about $20 Million out of that or less

 

[Spider-Fan]

This movie just sounds all kinds of awful. I mean, we haven't seen reviews this bad since Green Lantern. That is not good company to be in.

 

[TheVileOne]

Reviews haven't been this bad for a comic book movie since

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/catwoman/

 

[Dasher10]

This movie just sounds all kinds of awful. I mean, we haven't seen reviews this bad since Green Lantern. That is not good company to be in.

Green Lantern scored ten points higher on Metacritic and around another ten points higher on Rotten Tomatoes. This film is considered to be as bad as Elektra and Catwoman.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Green Lantern scored ten points higher on Metacritic and around another ten points higher on Rotten Tomatoes. This film is considered to be as bad as Elektra and Catwoman.

To be fair, this only has around 25 reviews. GL was in the teens for almost a week and made a late climb toward the end when reviews came in. This may do that, also. I am expecting a BAD score, don't get me wrong. But, not sure it will stay at the 14% area.

 

[Dasher10]

They will celebrate any number this movie makes come Sunday. Even if this somehow does $40 Million. We can bring it up that Fox probably only gets about $20 Million out of that or less

And then diminishing returns since critically panned films don't have legs. I'm predicting $30 million domestic on opening weekend since there's no 3D.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Plenty of movies have them, and sometimes they still turn out to be success stories. Case in point Mad Max: Fury Road. Apocalypse Now. Plenty of others.

JAWS springs to mind too. Everyone concerned with that feared it would be an unmitigated disaster.

 

[TheVileOne]

Heck, the first X-Men movie.

 

[Mysteryman]

Heck, the first X-Men movie.

Sure there were fears It would be bad, but was it a chaotic production?

 

[Snow Queen]

Sure there were fears It would be bad, but was it a chaotic production?

It was rushed, if I recall. I think I recall that the release date was moved up 6 months or so and they had to cram.

 

[TheVileOne]

Sure there were fears It would be bad, but was it a chaotic production?

Yes it was. You can even watch the documentary for the first movie, they filmed the moment where they get the release date. Everyone is pretty upset and crestfallen. One guy yells at the camera and says, "Fox wants it out by July it's going to take a lot of f***ing money!" They were given very little time to finish the movie and less money than initially promised.

In an interview with entertainment weekly for X-Men 2, Singer basically admitted they were taking the film out of his hands before release. He also has said his budget for X-Men 2 was basically what he was supposed to get for X-Men 1 and X-Men 2 is more the movie he wanted to make the first time around. So basically, he lost a huge chunk of his budget right before release.

I think what helps the movie is that Singer clearly found a muse of sorts in Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. And obviously being a gay Jewish man, the themes are personal ones for him as well.

 

[Frodo]

I do find this all a bit ironic given all those who passionately defended the film after the first trailer, and who said that it was going to be good.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I do find this all a bit ironic given all those who passionately defended the film after the first trailer, and who said that it was going to be good.

I find it absolutely hilarious for those people.

 

[TheVileOne]

I truly believe Fox knew they had a crap sandwich here but bit the bullet and went forward with it anyway, come what may. Why? Because if they somehow pulled it off, it would be like they are all geniuses and they can keep the franchise. They had to make this movie in order to keep the rights and that's exactly what they did. If it somehow worked out, then great, somehow they pulled it off. I mean we've seen plenty of bad movies make money before.

And I mean, this film could still make some sort of bank. Who knows. I think even Battleship managed to reach $300 million worldwide.

 

[Endeavor]

Currently at 12% on RT. 23 rotten vs 3 fresh. The downward spiral continues.

 

[Best]

"From the studio that brought you X-Men: Days of Future Past & Fant4stic"

 

[Best]

They'll have to stick with

MARVEL

From The Studio That Brought You X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST


for Deadpool

 

[Saitou Hajime]

And I mean, this film could still make some sort of bank. Who knows. I think even Battleship managed to reach $300 million worldwide.

I seriously doubt it. Unlike Battleship, Transformers and their ilk, FF appears to eschew the common elements that helps them thrive in the box office despite their poor quality: light hearted tone, humor, spectacle, thrills, simplicity. The alleged slow pace would probably hurt this film a lot with the GA.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

"From the studio that brought you that one really really good X-Men movie that you really liked"

 

[Dasher10]

I truly believe Fox knew they had a crap sandwich here but bit the bullet and went forward with it anyway, come what may. Why? Because if they somehow pulled it off, it would be like they are all geniuses and they can keep the franchise. They had to make this movie in order to keep the rights and that's exactly what they did. If it somehow worked out, then great, somehow they pulled it off. I mean we've seen plenty of bad movies make money before.

And I mean, this film could still make some sort of bank. Who knows. I think even Battleship managed to reach $300 million worldwide.

And yet Bryan Singer still made the first X-Men film a classic despite production problems and heavy studio interference. He actually got the property. He got the characters (well except for Sabretooth, Cyclops and Storm who didn't get much screen time but Storm was fixed in X2). He understood the property and what kind of film he was making. That's why it was a success.

Josh Trank on the other hand, had no idea what he was doing, showed no passion or enthusiasm and was apparently embarrassed to be making an epic sci-fi film and wanted to do a lo-fi character drama about young scientists meeting each other with the FF's origin tacked on as an afterthought. When you love what you're doing and put that extra love into what you're making, it shows.