The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 4

[Rowsdower!]

Haha. Oops not in that sense but Grodd was cool to see and hear talking

Haha yeah, agreed. That was pretty damned badass. Loved the "Not God... GRODD" line.

 

[Herolee10]

Looking back at "The Brave and the Bold", but do you guys think that Barry is a good person because he was afforded the luxury of not having to endure the harsh experiences that Oliver had gone through during his 5 year absence? Or do you guys see Barry as being someone who's just innately good?

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[famicommander]

Looking back at "The Brave and the Bold", but do you guys think that Barry is a good person because he was afforded the luxury of not having to endure the harsh experiences that Oliver had gone through during his 5 year absence? Or do you guys see Barry as being someone who's just innately good?

Uh, he witnessed his mother being murdered in front of his eyes and his dad went to jail for it. Then he became a crime scene investigator. Barry has just as much cause to be messed up as Oliver, but he isn't, because he's not a whiny, brooding, wannabe Batman.

In the comics Barry was always a good person. Even when the dark back story was retconned in, he still retained his positive outlook, upbeat personality, and consistent moral compass.

 

[DrCosmic]

Looking back at "The Brave and the Bold", but do you guys think that Barry is a good person because he was afforded the luxury of not having to endure the harsh experiences that Oliver had gone through during his 5 year absence? Or do you guys see Barry as being someone who's just innately good?

No one is innately good, everyone comes out the chute 100% selfish, and is from there formed by their experiences.

While Barry has had some negative experiences, he also had some insanely positive ones. Oliver's parents were huge *****es, well intentioned perhaps, but *****es nonetheless. That's his early nurture, secrets and controlling manipulation and the corrupting kind of power only money can buy. Oliver was hurting people remorselessly long before he got to the island.

Barry's parents, however, were pretty upstanding people from what we can tell. He was an outcast, he formed a best friendship with a girl with a strong cop-raised moral compass who was likely also an outcast on some level. His early nurture was a doctor helping people and a mother telling him how valuable his good heart was - as a consolation for being beat up. Can you imagine the Queen family's reaction to ten year old Oliver getting beat up? "What's important son, is that you have a good moral compass - straight as an arrow!"

No. And that is, from a developmental psychology perspective, why Barry is the way he is, and why Oliver is the way he is. Whatever harsh experiences Barry goes through, he has a core from his parents that steers him in the right direction, even after he goes on a rage-filled rampage, even when he doesn't have powers. Being raised, on op of that, by a no-nonsense but loving cop would've given Barry a deep respect for the law, and law enforcement. Like Arrow said, Barry was chosen.

There's more of course, when you start looking at the nature of hope and how Barry does it vs how Oliver doesn't.

 

[famicommander]

Flash is up for two Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards
Best Family TV Show
Best Male Actor (Grant Gustin)

You can vote if you care
http://www.nick.com/

Just nice to see the show recognized, no matter who's handing out the awards

It also won the Peoples' Choice Award for Best New Drama and was nominated for the VES Award for best Visual Effects in a TV Series, but lost to Game of Thrones.

 

[luis4u]

Robbie Amell Debunks 'Firestorm'/ARROW Rumors



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sr01hKdIsP8


[YT]sr01hKdIsP8[/YT]

 

[Golgo-13]

Have the producers talked about Grodds origins..in that, is he a product of the particle excelerator or is his origin that from the comics..?

 

[luis4u]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharr...c-movie-covers?utm_term=.jlxGZBzoZ#.fyZ98EXQG

 

[mr. peasant]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharr...c-movie-covers?utm_term=.jlxGZBzoZ#.fyZ98EXQG

What are you on?! This is clearly the best one:

 

[Daltonio]

^ That's hilarious.

 

[Tv's Phil]

What are the chances that Grodd might

Spoiler

keep Eiling alive for any reason?

 

[luis4u]

What are the chances that Grodd might

Spoiler

keep Eiling alive for any reason?

I hope Maybe transfer his brain

shaggy man

 

[Dark Raven]

I hope Grodd doesn't transfer his consciousness into Eiling. That would be such a cop out. It would be like Darkseid possessing Lionel Luthor in Smallville, because they couldn't afford the CGI to make him look good. It's either the gorilla or nothing at all!

 

[cheungcheung]

I hope Grodd doesn't transfer his consciousness into Eiling. That would be such a cop out. It would be like Darkseid possessing Lionel Luthor in Smallville, because they couldn't afford the CGI to make him look good. It's either the gorilla or nothing at all!

Agreed"

 

[DrCosmic]

What are the chances that Grodd might

Spoiler

keep Eiling alive for any reason?

Moderate.

Spoiler

Grodd may very well decide to keep Eiling in a cage and torture him. Allowing him to escape/have his brain transferred at some point in the future.

 

[Loki882]

I can see Grodd mentally/psychologically torturing him for awhile, as opposed to immediately killing him. Or maybe Grodd wants to psychically probe his mind:

Spoiler

Eiling's

probably got quite a few secrets/information that Grodd might find useful. Plus

Spoiler

Clancy Brown

is awesome and it'd be a shame to lose him so quickly.

 

[spiderman2]

I hope Grodd doesn't transfer his consciousness into Eiling. That would be such a cop out. It would be like Darkseid possessing Lionel Luthor in Smallville, because they couldn't afford the CGI to make him look good. It's either the gorilla or nothing at all!

Yeah has much has I loved smallville they shouldn't have used darksied has he is just to big of a villain for a tv budget and season 10 was right there with season 7 has the worst season for smallville has it felt like just about ever episode was a filter episode and that was after a great season 9.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

Will Nora Allen murder be resolve by end of the season? or will it take a lot longer?

 

[luis4u]

Will Nora Allen murder be resolve by end of the season? or will it take a lot longer?

Will take longer since they are planning on doing flashpoint.


"What the coolest thing about that moment, to me, is they're setting up the fact that the Flashpoint story line [from the comics] could potentially happen — that Speed Force could be an aspect and time travel is potentially a part of the show."

 

[cheungcheung]

Flashpoint should definitely happen later on down the line vs. in season 1/2

 

[JJmelo]

Will take longer since they are planning on doing flashpoint.


"What the coolest thing about that moment, to me, is they're setting up the fact that the Flashpoint story line [from the comics] could potentially happen — that Speed Force could be an aspect and time travel is potentially a part of the show."

I can see them doing a season in the Flashpoint timeline and then a third where he corrects the mistake that led him to that timeline in the first place. Would be really awesome to see all of the CW shows change tone to join in on the Flashpoint storyline. Like Thea as the Arrow and Tommy as The Magician.

Ep.14 Review (Fallout)
http://otlnews.net/2015/02/18/the-flash-review-s1-ep-14-fallout/

 

[CaptainWagner]

Have the producers talked about Grodds origins..in that, is he a product of the particle excelerator or is his origin that from the comics..?

They previously showed him as an experiment by Wells and Eiling.

 

[Nathan]

If there's ever going to be a Gorilla City, I could imagine that it will be created by Grodd in this Universe.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I can't wait to own this.
Hopefully they make reverse flash too.