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Going back to the Man In The Yellow Suit, it was Wells who stole the tachyon device and the rest was Zoom when he fought Barry in the stadium, being caught prisoner, and fighting Barry again. Was it Wells or Zoom who threatened to kill Iris?
 
vantheman77 said:
I knew it was going to be a tease and that they wouldn't reveal it in public. Dr. Wells could be either based on the Superfriends version or be revealed as Hunter Zolomon. Especially back in the Man In The Yellow Suit when Reverse Flash beat the tar out of Dr. Wells. There must be 2 Reverse Flashes running around.
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yeah I think some time in the future Wells got the suit and the Tachyon/Speed Force thing and came back in time to make sure the whole supercollider thing happened. Maybe some alternate timeline cause by either Barry or Zoom (Barry in one timeline saved his mother and defeated Zoom?) was never meant to be and Wells is in the present to make sure that it's fixed for sure and now he's trying to get "home" ?

I still think Wells could be Metron and is trapped here without his Mobius chair.
 
Hulk1968 said:
Another good episode that confirmed that Wells was not the Reverse Flash who went back in time and killed Barry's mom and that the "Red" Flash back then was an adult Barry who had traveled back in time to save his mom but had failed in doing so. So Cisco was right - he said there were two Reverse Flash's and the blood in Barry's old house confirmed it. And also Chase Masterson was pretty good playing the woman who lives there currently. (She was on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) I actually met her in person at a con, way back when. She still looks really good for her age. :heart:

We also got to see the true origin of a live-action Firestorm which was pretty cool when he actually went "nuclear". I doubt that's the last we see of him and I can't wait to see more of him.

Also the rumors were true that they're doing a time travel episode next week in "Fallout". We'll see the 'fallout' (after affect) of what happened to Ronny / Stein / Firestorm. I don't think they'll be doing a Flashpoint type of episode since it'd take more than 42 minutes to tell the entire story (maybe something similar, but we'll have to wait and see), which the animated movie did rather well IMHO.
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I kinda feel like Flashpoint could work, if they left it for the season finale, and the cliffhanger is that Barry wakes up in a different timeline, and then next season they could spend an episode or a few on him getting back to normal time. The biggest problem I see with that is, some characters may need to be written off for a bit, unless they try to tell parallel stories like they tried to do with Oliver's disappearance.

And speaking of which, I wonder if it would mess with Arrow's timeline. But now that I think about it .... They could simply show both timelines happening simultaneously, kinda like how Smallville did it with Clark and his Luthor-raised counterpart.
 
There are two RFs'. Wells and another one (most lilkey Eddie Thawne's decendant from the future)
 
SpideyVille said:
I kinda feel like Flashpoint could work, if they left it for the season finale, and the cliffhanger is that Barry wakes up in a different timeline, and then next season they could spend an episode or a few on him getting back to normal time. The biggest problem I see with that is, some characters may need to be written off for a bit, unless they try to tell parallel stories like they tried to do with Oliver's disappearance.

And speaking of which, I wonder if it would mess with Arrow's timeline. But now that I think about it .... They could simply show both timelines happening simultaneously, kinda like how Smallville did it with Clark and his Luthor-raised counterpart.
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Hm, maybe but it would take a few episodes to work itself out. There's only so much story you can tell in 42 minutes w/ out it becoming too "crowded". This episode had a lot going on but it was handled rather well. :) I don't watch "Arow" so I can't comment on that part.
 
Paradox1 said:
I think it's safe to assume the guy who fought Barry is the one who threatned Joe. That guy also killed Barry's mom but left some blood on the scene. How did Wells fake the blood?
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Isn't it likely that Wells isn't, well, Wells? from the viewpoint of him being the only RF, he may well have killed the real Harrison Wells and his wife and taken his place, so the DNA could not match up because he isn't the real Harrison Wells. Also, could Wells have possibly caught on to what Joe and Cisco were up to and sabotaged the test?
 
SpideyVille said:
I kinda feel like Flashpoint could work, if they left it for the season finale, and the cliffhanger is that Barry wakes up in a different timeline, and then next season they could spend an episode or a few on him getting back to normal time. The biggest problem I see with that is, some characters may need to be written off for a bit, unless they try to tell parallel stories like they tried to do with Oliver's disappearance.

And speaking of which, I wonder if it would mess with Arrow's timeline. But now that I think about it .... They could simply show both timelines happening simultaneously, kinda like how Smallville did it with Clark and his Luthor-raised counterpart.
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I've talked about this before, but if they go full on Flashpoint. I want it to effect both shows. Have that screwed up timeline for a couple episodes. I would lose my mind with excitement if they did it.
 
Paradox1 said:
I've talked about this before, but if they go full on Flashpoint. I want it to effect both shows. Have that screwed up timeline for a couple episodes. I would lose my mind with excitement if they did it.
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Flashpoint would make for one heck of a crossover event.
 
Hulk1968 said:
Hm, maybe but it would take a few episodes to work itself out. There's only so much story you can tell in 42 minutes w/ out it becoming too "crowded". This episode had a lot going on but it was handled rather well. :) I don't watch "Arow" so I can't comment on that part.
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The more I think about it, the more I think it could work really well, unless its rushed like Oliver's "death" feels.

I could totally see Barry getting stuck in a timeline where his mother is alive, his parents are together, Caitlin and Ronnie got married, the Particle Accelator never existed, etc. The only thing is there needs to be some conflict, so maybe his dad died in an accident instead, he never gets close to Iris, and Caitlin never met Ronnie or Cisco so they're all strangers but he goes to them for help and they try to figure it out, while the team in the normal timeline is trying to learn how to live without him, manage the meta human problem, or try to get him back. All the while, the RF is showing up in the alternate timeline messing with Barry.

This could go on for at least 3 episodes on the second season, maybe even up until the mid-season finale, and Barry learns not to time travel as a way of keeping him from doing that again whenever he messes up.
 
KillerMcQueen said:
Isn't it likely that Wells isn't, well, Wells? from the viewpoint of him being the only RF, he may well have killed the real Harrison Wells and his wife and taken his place, so the DNA could not match up because he isn't the real Harrison Wells. Also, could Wells have possibly caught on to what Joe and Cisco were up to and sabotaged the test?
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Whether Harrison Wells is his real name or not. I assume after the particle accident he had blood drawn as part of treatment. That blood would likely be the sample he used to test.
 
Paradox1 said:
Whether Harrison Wells is his real name or not. I assume after the particle accident he had blood drawn as part of treatment. That blood would likely be the sample he used to test.
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Which would be a sample Wells would likely be keen to fake.
 
Paradox1 said:
I've talked about this before, but if they go full on Flashpoint. I want it to effect both shows. Have that screwed up timeline for a couple episodes. I would lose my mind with excitement if they did it.
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I'm trying to think about it without getting a headache, but I almost feel like Arrow could go uninterrupted by it. I mean, wouldn't we be seeing the timeline from Barry's POV? It's not like the whole world changes, just the one that surrounds Barry. Sure we could see him visit Oliver, just to find out Malcolm's wife never died, and the Queen's gambit never sank, so Oliver stood in his life, went on to marry Laurel, or left her to be with Sara, and never became the Green Arrow, thus meaning Team Arrow never existed. That would be cool to see too, but it would have to be a crossover then. It wouldn't work on Arrow if you don't have the context of what happened on Flash, because they still need to address the audience that doesn't watch both shows.
 
I think Dr. Snow would of insisted on treating him.

SpideyVille said:
I'm trying to think about it without getting a headache, but I almost feel like Arrow could go uninterrupted by it. I mean, wouldn't we be seeing the timeline from Barry's POV? It's not like the whole world changes, just the one that surrounds Barry. Sure we could see him visit Oliver, just to find out Malcolm's wife never died, and the Queen's gambit never sank, so Oliver stood in his life, went on to marry Laurel, or left her to be with Sara, and never became the Green Arrow, thus meaning Team Arrow never existed. That would be cool to see too, but it would have to be a crossover then. It wouldn't work on Arrow if you don't have the context of what happened on Flash, because they still need to address the audience that doesn't watch both shows.
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They could summarize what happened in the opening credits so we are all caught up. Barry could hear of vigalinte in Starling and decide to ask him for help not aware Oliver is dead or something.
 
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So what did everyone else think of regarding the sequence where Flash had confronted Firestorm, that resulted in him going airborne?
 
herolee10 said:
So what did everyone else think of regarding the sequence where Flash had confronted Firestorm, that resulted in him going airborne?
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I was half expecting him to pull that stunt he did on the JL cartoon where he spun his arms fast enough to act as quasi helicopter blades, I will admit that possibly would have been a bit much.
 
KillerMcQueen said:
I was half expecting him to pull that stunt he did on the JL cartoon where he spun his arms fast enough to act as quasi helicopter blades, I will admit that possibly would have been a bit much.
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lol; yeah I was actually expecting that as well...but part of me was like thinking (before Firestorm ended up saving him) that something like that would be pretty expensive to do for the show so I was waiting to see if they would go that far.
 
I think Barry will get to the point he can make those small tornados with his arms. I just don't think he's fast enough yet. I did a quick google search and the speed of Helicopter's propeller is around supersonic. I don't have hard science on it, but I think you can move your legs much faster than your arms.
 
Great to have confirmation on the time travel aspects.

Amell brought it stronger than I imagined he could with the Stein performance.

Man, this season finale (whatever it entails) is gonna be good. :woo:
KillerMcQueen said:
I was half expecting him to pull that stunt he did on the JL cartoon where he spun his arms fast enough to act as quasi helicopter blades, I will admit that possibly would have been a bit much.
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herolee10 said:
lol; yeah I was actually expecting that as well...but part of me was like thinking (before Firestorm ended up saving him) that something like that would be pretty expensive to do for the show so I was waiting to see if they would go that far.
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You two weren't alone on that thought. :funny:
 
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