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The Flash The Flash season 2 episode 2 "The Flash of Two Worlds"

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That was great. Was that the first time Blackgafe has been mentioned in this universe?
 
This was better then the first episode but I was disappointed with them making Jay still new to the role. He's been The Flash 1 year longer then Barry when she should have been a seasoned pro and part of a team.
 
So that was a 52 reference I assume.
 
Overall... Big step up from the premiere. I like where they are going with Jay and so far I am liking the actor as well. They showed a natural reaction of Barry to Jay as well. Good stuff with Joe's new recruit and a nice peek as to what happened with Mrs. West, which I am guessing is going to lead into Wally coming onboard. The glimpse of Earth 2 and the dun-dun-duh was also cool. But...

Much as with what I felt was the been there done that manufactured drama for drama's sake stuff with Barry's guilt in the premiere, I have to say the thing with Cisco, his conversation with Stein... It feels forced and like Henry leaving, a head scratcher. The reasoning also felt thin. Maybe a minor complaint but that is two episodes in a row for me that the writing was sloppy in some aspect. Still, overall... I enjoyed it. Now... Let's get Jay running around with Barry doing awesome speed stuff soon.
 
Pretty good episode. I thought Patty was awesome too, looking forward to seeing more of her.
 
So, so far Wells is the only guy to do the same exact thing on both Earths. Stein mentioned that clones of each other could be into different things, yet Wells has created Star Labs on both Earth 1 and Earth 2.

I'm wondering how does Earth 2 Wells get introduced into Earth 1. Maybe Jay calls for Wells help and Barry flips out the moment he sees Wells?
 
I agree on Cisco. Of all the people, I thought it was safe to assume that he'd be excited about having powers. But, it seems like they're using his experience with Wells to make him hate it.
 
This episode was better than the second but them killing metahumans is starting to bother me. I don't mind Oliver killing but Barry is better is not that kind of hero.
 
This episode was better than the second but them killing metahumans is starting to bother me. I don't mind Oliver killing but Barry is better is not that kind of hero.

Is this guy dead? I thought his power had something to do with his cells adapting, and the lightning stopped that reforming process for a bit. I figured they sweep him up and he eventually comes back together lol. I can't remember last weeks, did they kill him?
 
Is this guy dead? I thought his power had something to do with his cells adapting, and the lightning stopped that reforming process for a bit. I figured they sweep him up and he eventually comes back together lol. I can't remember last weeks, did they kill him?

They didn't explicitly say really whether either died.
 
Next episode Jay teaches Barry how to do a supersonic neck-snap on the villain. Calling it now.
 
They didn't explicitly say really whether either died.

Okay that's what I thought. I don't mind if these no name villain of the week dudes do get killed, but I don't believe Barry or the show runners are actively trying to do that either.
 
I like that the Star Labs team is expanding and I also like the iconic scene of two Flashes coming to Patty Spivot. Patty is winning me over and has better chemistry with Barry.

Of all people, I never thought Cisqo would be afraid of having powers. He should be happy having one.

Something tells me that the introduction of Mrs. West is to bring in Wally, but I wonder if Wally is going to be either Iris' nephew or younger brother. If nephew, then who is her brother? Shouldn't that brother be with her and Barry when they're living together?

Professor Stein's explanation of the Multiverse is a nod to Back To The Future 2.

Little bit better than the premiere, but I wish they get Barry to be the light hearted people as he's killing metahumans as of late. I don't think the writers are writing for Barry here.
 
Is this guy dead? I thought his power had something to do with his cells adapting, and the lightning stopped that reforming process for a bit. I figured they sweep him up and he eventually comes back together lol. I can't remember last weeks, did they kill him?

I thought he killed him because he shattered, the lightning bolt was awesome though.
 
Jay mentioned his 'mentor' or a term along those lines taught him the lightning fastball.. who might that mentor be? Zoom?
 
I thought he killed him because he shattered, the lightning bolt was awesome though.

Sand Demon's powers though kinda entailed him being in billions of pieces at any given moment when in use, so it's not hard to imagine him surviving shattering into pieces.
 
Great episode. I loved it.

Barry's lightening throw gave me chills, especially with his scream.
 
Great episode. I loved it.

Barry's lightening throw gave me chills, especially with his scream.

Loved it overall as well, though that conversation between Jay and Caitlin towards the end has me concerned it may be awhile before Jay gets his powers back.
 
Wow. I'm legitimately surprised by how much I enjoyed this episode. I thought Zoom came across as kind of lame, and there were one or two jokes that felt out of place, but overall, I thought this was a very solid episode. 8/10. Keep it up, guys, and I might start sipping the Kool-Aid.
 
So I enjoyed this episode better than the premiere episode. Sadly the premiere felt like a filler episode to me, rather than a continuation to the 1st season finale cliffhanger, that ignored several important events that happened in the S1 finale.

Well, Jay Garrick I like so far, but are we still going to see him next week? I think there's more they can do with these two characters. This episode did some things which the premiere episode lacked. Some of the drama was good, for instance the scene with Barry and Iris and the mentions of Harrison Wells.

In season 1, other than Barry, my favorite characters were Joe West and Harrison Wells/Reverse Flash. As for Iris, throughout most of season 1, my like for her was kind of up and down. Sometimes she would be likeable at one point and then be annoying on another, and I'd feel upset for Barry. In this episode however, I found her more likeable. Some of the drama in this episode I think made tonight's episode better.

The problem with the premiere episode last week was that they just skipped over 5 months, and it just felt like another episode where the Flash faces off another meta-human. Moreover, you didn't see the Atom-smasher for that long in the episode. His screen time was limited. He had about the same amount of screen time other, less-memorable, meta-humans had on this show previously.

The premiere just ignored the most important events that happened in the season 1 finale (except for the singularity) like how was Barry grieving over the fact that he failed to save his mother back in time last season? Did Barry tell Iris, Joe, Caitlin and Cisco about what happened after he returned to the present time? When he went to the past and saw his future-self warning him not to save his mother? Maybe he did tell them, but they don't tell us. That was a disappointment, and I looked forward to seeing a scene dealing with the aftermath of Barry's trauma for not being able to save his mother.

When I first got into this show, it was in the first season's 15th episode. Before that, the show just felt like it didn't have a great structure, just silly, over-the-top cheesy villains. But after the 15th episode is when I suddenly became engaged in the show. I loved it from that point onwards. The structure became more consistent and it was more serious.

As of right now though, we had one villain we saw battle the Flash just briefly who was the Atom-smasher, and then a guy who could dissolve into sand. Jay Garrick was great but I hope that at least serves some purpose this season and that he's not just in one episode.

At the moment, I currently prefer "Arrow". The structure just seems better.

I am curious to see what happens with the new Harrison Wells, or if it's the same guy. Is he the Harrison Wells from the other Earth? Maybe it's the real Harrison Wells from that universe, and it's not Eobard Thawne.

The best part of this episode was the comic book reference, both Flash's saying "Coming!" and the shot from the comic book. Nice homage.

Well, look forward to next week.
 
I agree on Cisco. Of all the people, I thought it was safe to assume that he'd be excited about having powers. But, it seems like they're using his experience with Wells to make him hate it.
he did say everything reverse flash did was for evil purposes how ever with the video confession .... it's looking like the vision Cisco has are becoming precognitive looks into current future events now.


hmmm and what happening the stein ???? might cause of his symbiosis's to Ronny
 
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They didn't explicitly say really whether either died.
I assumed that Team Flash hadn't intended to kill Atom Smasher, but weren't going to lose too much sleep over it. Barry even apologized and sounded like he really didn't want to do this.
Sand Demon's powers though kinda entailed him being in billions of pieces at any given moment when in use, so it's not hard to imagine him surviving shattering into pieces.
Yeah, I don't think he's dead, either. I was surprised that they didn't show the Flashes sweeping him up or gathering all the pieces.
Jay mentioned his 'mentor' or a term along those lines taught him the lightning fastball.. who might that mentor be? Zoom?
I thought it was Barry who mentioned a mentor, meaning Jay.
hmmm and what happening the stein ???? might cause of his symbiosis's to Ronny
I thought it was a sudden heart attack or stroke or something, but that's a possibility, too.
 
Um I am confused still about Zoom. He sounds similar to Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash.

And doing some research, I learned that Reverse Flash was also known, or originally known as Professor Zoom...and who is this guy now? Just "Zoom"...and he wears a seemingly Flash-like suit, but looks blue and his streaks are blue.

So I'm not exactly caught up on the Reverse-Flash/Prof. Zoom...or Zoom or whether it's all the same.

I understand Eobard Thawne was like a scientist, and if not, a genius in his time zone but unsatisfied with his time zone...or being a big fan of the Flash...(another version) wanted to meet his dream idol...ended up being in the wrong time zone, and later come to hate The Flash? I don't quite understand. And in what way would that explain how the Reverse-Flash was eventually motivated to want to kill Barry, but ended up killing Barry's mother?
 
I thought it was a sudden heart attack or stroke or something, but that's a possibility, too.
Nah a heart attack wouldn't make sense cause they would have mention he had heart problem prior to what happened to him and Ronny and from what it sound like he eats a certain way.

Stein doesn't like pizza of all things and unless your the allergic type, that's just not right. lol All jokes aside, I'm sure it's that . it's ether a sign that Ronny's dormant inside of him or what was happening befor when it seemed they were a part from each other for too long the first time around.


And they had to see a buddy of stein's to find out how to control their problem. it's some thing related to their symbiosis
 
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