The Flash The Iris West/Candice Patton Thread

[zenith16]

Wow whoever this comic book character is that's who she reminds me of in these photos lol!

That's mary marvel who a white girl. you may have saw her evil counter part (who tand )as super woman in the animated "crisis on two earths" DC justice league movie.


where she was the love interest of night owl , batman's counter part. ether way this won't be iris cause in mary marvel's day life when she's not super heroing both her and her twin brother DC's captain marvel the latter of which is in video games of late also beside animated series (if you watching those you should) are usually shown to be underage kids /teens. which makes night owl an evil ped. when you think about it.


and this would be further stealing identity's of other heroes.


which isn't working out for characters like james olsen on super girl so In hope this doesn't happen.

 

[mqg96]

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I don't know if anyone has posted this video yet, but I like this guy's drawing of Iris and his opinion on the show.

 

[Wildcard]

First time I'm seeing it and that is some phenomenal work. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Daemain]

he Flash 3x23 Sneak Peak "Finish Line" Season 3 Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upJ3-4Xj_VY

 

[Daemain]

the Flash 3x23 Sneak Peak #2 "Finish Line" Season 3 Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVuwhOSoKbU

 

[Avenging Angel]

They should have killed off Iris.

 

[Loki882]

Hopefully Iris gets a story that gives her some actual agency of her own (and not just at the very end as a desperate way to salvage things). Do more with the reporter thing, or make her a cop like her dad, or have her run for office, whatever just something.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Wishful thinking. I have no hope in that happening.

 

[KidFlash6969]

Hopefully Iris gets a story that gives her some actual agency of her own (and not just at the very end as a desperate way to salvage things). Do more with the reporter thing, or make her a cop like her dad, or have her run for office, whatever just something.

I would like to see an older, battle hardened Iris from the future come back in time to help the gang (Kind of like the version of Iris that brought Bart back from the future to be trained by Wally)

 

[Syncos]

I think people are too hard on Iris.
I really like Candice. She can't be blamed for bad writing. I would like to see her get a decent story. The problem is that they don't, and never have treated her like a lead.

Iris doesn't get stories. She gets to be a character in other people's stories.

Cisco gets plenty. (Learned his mentor was evil, had to deal with getting and controlling super powers, now a love interest)

Caitlyn finally has some depth this season now that she's not a sum of relationships she's in. Her decent into madness and now coming to grips with who she is makes for good story telling.

Tom gets range. As Wells-Thawne he was huge in S1, Harry had his daughter and saving E2, HR had coward/redemption arc and love story.

Iris got to be in a relationship with Eddie, and then Barry. She has a desk job, but it's only ever there if it's a footnote in the episode's story. One might say "this whole season was about Iris" but it wasn't. It was about Barry, trying to stop something from happening.

 

[Loki882]

I don't blame Candice, I like her. And she's clearly trying to make it work, but you can only do so much with bad material. And honestly, I didn't think that Caitlin's story was handled well this season either (although perhaps now it will go in interesting directions moving forward, we'll see).

This show is the worst out of all the CW when it comes to handling their female character giving them interesting stuff to do.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Eh it's not just the writing, performance-wise too. I've never an actress cry more and for no reason in most of her scenes. Even Jesse to a degree annoys me. It's the direction that is bringing out the worst in the performances and the writing for the rest.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[zenith16]

Eh it's not just the writing, performance-wise too. I've never an actress cry more and for no reason in most of her scenes. Even Jesse to a degree annoys me. It's the direction that is bringing out the worst in the performances and the writing for the rest.

hmmm the writer's set the direction though. Syncos is right. and if they weren't ok with the preference's the actor's wouldn't give those preference cause that what thewriters wanted they made clear to the director beof it air's to the audience and they were please with the out come causthat whatthey wanted from theactor til they see the audince reaction and they just hide. that's something we have to take into account .

the actor from what we've seen are fine remember people were dumping on lechter who took over the reverse flash role cause the writer weren't giving him enough to start you couldn't with what they gaive and it was little and when they did give him more he was as good a reverse flash as Tom Cavanaugh . it's is indeed the writers, the direction they put in plot inthe script and them being ok with the performance's cause that's what they want.

they just have to make they have the plot set before the start filming and give those characters more no short changing. the actors have the skill's to pull it off.

 

[Wildcard]

Eh it's not just the writing, performance-wise too. I've never an actress cry more and for no reason in most of her scenes. Even Jesse to a degree annoys me. It's the direction that is bringing out the worst in the performances and the writing for the rest.

The writing dictates that Candice has those reactions, so it really is more so the writers fault than hers. If that's what's in the script and what she's supposed to be filming it's not like she can just go "**** it" and do her own thing and ignore the writers/director (in this case unfortunately so).

 

[Eni]

The writing dictates that Candice has those reactions, so it really is more so the writers fault than hers. If that's what's in the script and what she's supposed to be filming it's not like she can just go "**** it" and do her own thing and ignore the writers/director (in this case unfortunately so).

yeah, as long as she isn't a big name actress who doesn't have to worry about money, she pretty much is fxxxed when it comes to liking a script and where her character goes.

 

[zenith16]

The writing dictates that Candice has those reactions, so it really is more so the writers fault than hers. If that's what's in the script and what she's supposed to be filming it's not like she can just go "**** it" and do her own thing and ignore the writers/director (in this case unfortunately so).

Agreed your spot on. I've said so my self many times through out some of the DCTv shows.

 

[Loki882]

She's quite charming and likeable, when they let her be. Case in point, the scene where she and amnesiac Barry are at the coffee shop and she's trying to tell him about his past.

 

[batdude]

Yeah, a lot of the crying is the writer's fault. Most of her plot this year was "Iris could die tomorrow". She's better when they let her lighten up. Oh and one other thing, There are a Lot of pictures of Candice hanging out with Caity Lotz. Sure wish they would let her crossover with Legends.

 

[mqg96]

Iris, Caitlin, and Jesse have many traits about the characters you'll like or dislike in many people's opinions. None of them are "perfect" or "that bad". Personally for me Jesse is my least favorite, but at the end of the day I just pay attention to the positives each character offers.

 

[mqg96]

She can't look any finer in those photos!!!

 

[AcePair]

Very nice pictures. She's a beautiful girl.

 

[Wildcard]

She's quite charming and likeable, when they let her be. Case in point, the scene where she and amnesiac Barry are at the coffee shop and she's trying to tell him about his past.

Exactly. If they gave her more material like that to work with, she'd be good to go. One can only hope that season four finally fixes the Iris West issue.

That's one of the things I loved so much about Smallville: even in the presence of metahumans, aliens, etc. pretty much every character, whether superpowered or not, got a chance to shine.

 

[Avenging Angel]

I don't have faith they will execute it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Exactly. If they gave her more material like that to work with, she'd be good to go. One can only hope that season four finally fixes the Iris West issue.

That's one of the things I loved so much about Smallville: even in the presence of metahumans, aliens, etc. pretty much every character, whether superpowered or not, got a chance to shine.

That this team would take that long to understand the issues with Iris' character says a lot though.