Iron Man 3 The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 14

[Sharkboy]

Saw it for the 2nd time yesterday here in the UK and I maintain my first rating of 10/10.
Fantastic action, preferred to The Avengers and a movie I'll watch many times when I own it in 6 months or so.

Agree fully.

 

[UnionJack]

Lol, I'm pretty sure The Avengers is very easy to top tbh

Please elaborate on this??

 

[cherokeesam]

Please elaborate on this??

Ugh. Don't ask him to, please.
This thread is already crawling with haters.

Pretty sure all this ****ting all over the movie would be regarded as trolling in a Bat-thread or Spidey-thread.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ugh. Don't ask him to, please.
This thread is already crawling with haters.

Pretty sure all this ****ting all over the movie would be regarded as trolling in a Bat-thread or Spidey-thread.

There is a lot of complaining, but there seems to be plenty of legit criticism as well. You can't just group it all together.

 

[Xeno]

Ugh. Don't ask him to, please.
This thread is already crawling with haters.

Pretty sure all this ****ting all over the movie would be regarded as trolling in a Bat-thread or Spidey-thread.

Yep. But with a Marvel Studios film it's just considered par for the course. Maybe we should whine to the mods more....Nah. Not worth it.

This reminds me of the reason I never go to the ASM forum, let alone the Batboards. I positively hated ASM, but I only shared my opinion over there once and dropped it cold. Why? Because to stick around and keep on slamming it ad nauseum would be trolling, in my opinion. Having run a few forums in my day, I know that way lies madness, not to mention flame wars, mod annoyance and possible banning. So I stated my piece once, got it out of my system and left. Would that others could follow my example.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Nice avatar, Xeno. lol

 

[Norek]

It's still beyond me how people always bring stuff to the table against other people who never even said or implied it. If someone says something negative about Marvel Studios films, he's a DC fanboy. If someone criticizes something, he's a hater. But it all looks like a closed circle. People who complain about people who complained about a movie. People who hate people who hated the movie. It's ridiculous.

I (and a lot of those "supposed" haters) am not criticizing anything because it belongs to one studio or another, or because I like making people who liked it angry. I am passionate about these things and when I don't like something I try to explain reasonably why, and I will not pretend that I liked it just because I don't want to upset other people. Yet other people call me delusional or a hater for having a different view on things than theirs.

 

[UnionJack]

It's still beyond me how people always bring stuff to the table against other people who never even said or implied it. If someone says something negative about Marvel Studios films, he's a DC fanboy. If someone criticizes something, he's a hater. But it all looks like a closed circle. People who complain about people who complained about a movie. People who hate people who hated the movie. It's ridiculous.

I (and a lot of those "supposed" haters) am not criticizing anything because it belongs to one studio or another, or because I like making people who liked it angry. I am passionate about these things and when I don't like something I try to explain reasonably why, and I will not pretend that I liked it just because I don't want to upset other people. Yet other people call me delusional or a hater for having a different view on things than theirs.

I got reported and warned of "trolling" just having an opinion and people asking me to go into more detail on why I had the thoughts I had.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's still beyond me how people always bring stuff to the table against other people who never even said or implied it. If someone says something negative about Marvel Studios films, he's a DC fanboy. If someone criticizes something, he's a hater. But it all looks like a closed circle. People who complain about people who complained about a movie. People who hate people who hated the movie. It's ridiculous.

I (and a lot of those "supposed" haters) am not criticizing anything because it belongs to one studio or another, or because I like making people who liked it angry. I am passionate about these things and when I don't like something I try to explain reasonably why, and I will not pretend that I liked it just because I don't want to upset other people. Yet other people call me delusional or a hater for having a different view on things than theirs.

Yep. Even reasonable, well-written criticism is labelled. It also becomes all encompassing. And it happens in all the various forums. Not specific to any board or fans.

 

[Rocanrol]

I'm really curious what reference do people have when give so easily a 10/10. Would love to know which other movies have that rating, what are their standars.

A 10/10 movie should have an impressive style, photography, superb acting and characterization, a catching strong plot and deep connotations.

Comparing to another CBM, I think that TDK and Watchmen fall into this category and in my rating they don't get a 10/10. A solid 9/10 could be, for example.

 

[Norek]

Yep. Even reasonable, well-written criticism is labelled.

That's the thing. I got called a delusional prick who had unrealistic expectations, a DC fanboy, a comic purist, a hater, a troll and whatnot. Even thought I'm far from being any of that. I get people posting RT scores and all that ******** to poke me, like I'm supposed to feel bad for not sharing the general opinion on the movie.

 

[C. Lee]

I'm really curious what reference do people have when give so easily a 10/10. Would love to know which other movies have that rating, what are their standars.

A 10/10 movie should have an impressive style, photography, superb acting and characterization, a catching strong plot and deep connotations.

Comparing to another CBM, I think that TDK and Watchmen fall into this category and in my rating they don't get a 10/10. A solid 9/10 could be, for example.

Any rating system based upon personal preference (personal preference is something that isn't quantifiable) will not be exactly agreed to by all participants.

1 + 1 = 2....is a quantifiable statement that has to be agreed to by all.

Giving a movie a 10 /10 is a personal preference that is tailored to the individual not to the group as a whole.

So in other words...complaining about someone giving a movie a rating you wouldn't give it is a waste of time. You can not expect everyone in the world to FEEL exactly the same about something like the enjoyment of a movie.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Any rating system based upon personal preference (personal preference is something that isn't quantifiable) will not be exactly agreed to by all participants.

1 + 1 = 2....is a quantifiable statement that has to be agreed to by all.

Giving a movie a 10 /10 is a personal preference that is tailored to the individual not to the group as a whole.

So in other words...complaining about someone giving a movie a rating you wouldn't give it is a waste of time. You can not expect everyone in the world to FEEL exactly the same about something like the enjoyment of a movie.

Well said.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Any rating system based upon personal preference (personal preference is something that isn't quantifiable) will not be exactly agreed to by all participants.

1 + 1 = 2....is a quantifiable statement that has to be agreed to by all.

Giving a movie a 10 /10 is a personal preference that is tailored to the individual not to the group as a whole.

So in other words...complaining about someone giving a movie a rating you wouldn't give it is a waste of time. You can not expect everyone in the world to FEEL exactly the same about something like the enjoyment of a movie.

I give this post a 8.3257 out of 10. Not enough meat and the special effects were a bit too cartoony.

 

[Rocanrol]

Yeah, but i want to know the reasons behind that 10/10. I understand that is a personal opinion and totally respect that, if founded in logic and reason.

I say this because the contrast between my opinion and others is that severe. I wasn't fomenting any kind of aggression (or wasn't my intention at least), just curiosity. Strong curiosity of how others rate their movies. Especially if there is so much criticism on the critics of this movie. Just trying of understand :P

 

[TheAQU4M4N]

Going to the midnight premiere this week, kinda excited for it.

 

[Rocanrol]

ps. If we are discussing the movie, and someone use a numerical reference, why can't I discuss the reasoning behind that numerical rating, being the counter-argument that numerical rating is pointless. It's pointless if not backed up, which is what I am asking for.

 

[C. Lee]

Yeah, but i want to know the reasons behind that 10/10. I understand that is a personal opinion and totally respect that, if founded in logic and reason.

I say this because the contrast between my opinion and others is that severe. I wasn't fomenting any kind of aggression (or wasn't my intention at least), just curiosity. Strong curiosity of how others rate their movies. Especially if there is so much criticism on the critics of this movie. Just trying of understand :P

Too much of a personal opinion is made of that persons personal experiences over the years. Even if they could explain it to you, it still wouldn't mean the same to you as it does to them.

I am an old man. I have vastly different personal experiences over my 56 years than many 17 year olds on here have had. I don't expect them to feel the way I do about things, just as I don't expect to feel about things the way they do. My only hope is that just as I accept that people have different opinions and feelings about things, that they accept it too. Unfortuantly all too often on the boards I see others not accepting that others have different opinions.

 

[C. Lee]

ps. If we are discussing the movie, and someone use a numerical reference, why can't I discuss the reasoning behind that numerical rating, being the counter-argument that numerical rating is pointless. It's pointless if not backed up, which is what I am asking for.

Lets say I give a movie a 10.

I can say that it is because of the writing....but what if what I like in writing is not what you like in writing.

I can say it is because of the acting....but what if I like one acting style more than you do.

I can say I loved the fantastic use of colors....but what if you are color blind?

I can say they did an exceptional work with sounds....the moderator Morg is deaf, so that would mean nothing to him.

I may love a movie because of it's multiple homages to actors, movies, and Tv shows of the past....but if you had seen none of those, what would that matter to you.

People can give you the reasons for their rating...but even being told them, you may be able to slightly understand their reasonings, but you wouldn't fully.

 

[Rocanrol]

I think that I'm being highly misinterpreted here. English is not my native language, so maybe i have a rough and rustic speech. There is no agressive intention, no meta-message buried within.

In a forum of discussion, in a thread about the movie, if someone says "it's an awesome movie, 10/10!" I really would like that statement backed up with some logic. Becase that's is not my opinion at all, and I want to understand.

 

[Rocanrol]

Then, what's the point of a discussion if not understand and discuss other points of views and opinions, with respect and patience?

 

[FABSN13]

just 50 minutes to go. but not in IMAX, well gonna see it tomorrow again, but then in IMAX. pretty excited after all the talks about the twist and so on.

 

[eddy]

Any rating system based upon personal preference (personal preference is something that isn't quantifiable) will not be exactly agreed to by all participants.

1 + 1 = 2....is a quantifiable statement that has to be agreed to by all.

Giving a movie a 10 /10 is a personal preference that is tailored to the individual not to the group as a whole.

So in other words...complaining about someone giving a movie a rating you wouldn't give it is a waste of time. You can not expect everyone in the world to FEEL exactly the same about something like the enjoyment of a movie.

Completely agreed. If I really like a movie I won't give it a rating lower than a 7. If I'm kinda meh on a movie I'll probably give it a 5 or a 6. I don't think I've ever rated a film lower than a 5 because if a film is that bad I'll probably turn it off a few mintues into the film. I started to watch Transformers 2 once and turned it off after almost 10 minutes. It was that bad.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Completely agreed. If I really like a movie I won't give it a rating lower than a 7. If I'm kinda meh on a movie I'll probably give it a 5 or a 6. I don't think I've ever rated a film lower than a 5 because if a film is that bad I'll probably turn it off a few mintues into the film. I started to watch Transformers 2 once and turned it off after almost 10 minutes. It was that bad.

That's where I feel sorry for critics. Yes they get paid to watch movies and write about them, but they also have a responsibility to sit through a lot of really bad movies and then have to write in detail about those really bad movies. I do not envy them for having that responsibility. If I want to quit on a movie and never see it or mention it ever again, I can do that.

 

[Kane52630]

Just to throw a monkey wrench into that...I would give Batman & Robin a 10/10, why? because it's vastly entertaining to me. The rating system is arbitrary from one viewer to the next.