Iron Man 3 The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 14

[Repulsor Blast]

Just watched the movie..Holy **** it was awesome..10/10 for me,better than The Avengers in my opinion..The twist was executed well and oh man ,the glove and boot sequence was amazing

Final battle was breath taking, Tony was pissed Funny movie..The Mark 42 kinda had a personality of its own, it was funny lol xD
This was the best MCU movie to date,it had depth,action,dramatic moments and emotional.. I shed a tear in the end..Really cool movie..going to watch it tomorrow again

awww yeaaah

 

[Sharkboy]

Yeah watching that final battle again really hit the spot for me, that was a damn good sequence there, that's the sort of action that i personally like. I can see how people would be jumping up and down for the avengers but when you got some proper mano e mano one on one action, nothing beats it in my eyes.

 

[TonyStarkJr]

How many new suits we see in the movie?

 

[Sharkboy]

How many new suits we see in the movie?

[BLACKOUT]A ton, we find out theres like 42 different suits so that's pretty much the number of them we get. I wasn't able to identify each one though.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I think it's really cool that

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Yinsen shows up in IM3. In IM1, he mentions that he already met Stark before the cave incident, but Stark was too drunk so it cut the introduction short. The 1999 part in the beginning is that moment.

 

[Sharkboy]

I think it's really cool that

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Yinsen shows up in IM3. In IM1, he mentions that he already met Stark before the cave incident, but Stark was too drunk so it cut the introduction short. The 1999 part in the beginning is that moment.

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Yeah i really wanted them to go back to Yinsen, he's such an important character in Starks life and yet he never mentions him again.

 

[C. Lee]

Read this -


It's very simple....half the world has not seen Iron Man 3...if you do not put spoilers about important things in the movie in spoiler tags...you will be infracted and put on probation. Do not ruin the movie for others.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Read this -


It's very simple....half the world has not seen Iron Man 3...if you do not put spoilers about important things in the movie in spoiler tags...you will be infracted and put on probation. Do not ruin the movie for others.

Why was the [BLACKOUT]"With a twist of Mandarin" [/BLACKOUT]spoiler thread taken down?

 

[Rocanrol]

^That. The title said SPOILERS, everyone who entered that thread did it at it's own risk...

 

[Spikey]

Question:

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Tony says in the final battle that he can't give Rhodey a suit as they're all coded to him, and earlier Jarvis employed facial recognition before allowing Pepper access Tony's phone message. So suit security is tight.

Given all that:

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How did James Badge Dale's character get to use the Iron Patriot suit? Shouldn't it be coded for Rhodey only? What did I miss?

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I don't think the suit was coded at all, even the President used it.

 

[Crimson King]

Why was the [BLACKOUT]"With a twist of Mandarin" [/BLACKOUT]spoiler thread taken down?

Probably because the title implied an actual spoiler.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Probably because the title implied an actual spoiler.

If that's the case, couldn't a mod just alter the thread title?

 

[kaijunexus]

Probably because the title implied an actual spoiler.

So even just the vague implication of an unspecified [BLACKOUT]plot twist[/BLACKOUT] counts as a spoiler?!

 

[Crimson King]

If that's the case, couldn't a mod just alter the thread title?

So even just the vague implication of an unspecified [BLACKOUT]plot twist[/BLACKOUT] counts as a spoiler?!

Hey, I'm just guessing. Seems like a title change would've sufficed, but that's up to them.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

It does seem like that would've sufficed. I just want to know why the entire thread was deleted.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Read this -


It's very simple....half the world has not seen Iron Man 3...if you do not put spoilers about important things in the movie in spoiler tags...you will be infracted and put on probation. Do not ruin the movie for others.

Thank you.

 

[GRangerPrimeNYC]

Why did they even bother releasing it before most countries over seas.

This was a problem with The Avengers too.

 

[kaijunexus]

I feel like the deletion of that thread really killed the momentum of the conversation in the whole Iron Man 3 forum...

So let's get it going again!!! (WITH HIDDEN SPOILERS THIS TIME!!)

Here's a little something I saved from the now-deceased thread. What are the thoughts on this?

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Killiandarin karate-chops armors in half like comic Mandarin.(albeit because of extremis amped strength rather than chi amped strength)

Killiandarin is a mad scientist like comic Mandarin.

Killiandarin has a dragon tattoo like comic Mandarin.

Killiandarin is obsessed with achieving perfection of mind and body like comic Mandarin.

He's got a crazy scheme of the sort Mandarin tends to have.

Killiandarin is actually pretty much comic Mandarin except for race.

In fact, it appears that The Mandarin is truly portrayed in this film in full force...he's just split into two different people.

You have the "heart" of the Mandarin (all of the "Killiandarin" aspects you pointed out, minus the race and general history of the comic Mandarin) in Killian, and then you have the "face" of the Mandarin (robes, terrifying nature, iconography, general appearance) in Trevor the actor.

In fact, I would bet that fans would be a lot more accepting of all of this if Killian was just given a different name. I would imagine that people would be mostly okay with him not being of Asian descent, but I think fans are having a difficult time reconciling that they've combined the characters of Aldrich Killian and the Mandarin into one.

So who picked out the Mandarin's robes? His rings? His words? His surgically-altered face?

Killian. It was all Aldrich Killian.

He invented the persona of the Mandarin. In many ways, Kingsley's Mandarin is still very much Killian. He's Killian's puppet. A dark reflection he's created of himself.

Trevor, the actor, is really just a blank slate that Aldrich could use to paint his vision onto. The fact that he's chosen such a gifted actor to portray this piece of his personality is a further testament to Killian's genius...as is the fact that he's chosen a person who is essentially absent of his own thoughts and cares only for luxury and basic pleasures. Again, intellectually, a blank slate that Killian can paint.

So, in this context...the Mandarin played by Trevor Slattery is actually being "played" by Aldrich Killian in all aspects except for the physical body that is under those robes and wearing those rings. The character that Trevor plays is not "fake"...The Mandarin we see in those terrorist videos is very much an aspect of Aldrich Killian, and therefore very real.

Don't judge the bearded, ring-wearing Mandarin on the puppet under the robes that's used to portray him...judge him on the man pulling the marionette strings.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

[BLACKOUT]A ton, we find out theres like 42 different suits so that's pretty much the number of them we get. I wasn't able to identify each one though.[/BLACKOUT]

This isn't really true though.

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I finally found someone who went into detail. Basically Tony uses the Mark 42 for the majority of the movie. The Mark 7 for a small scene and the Silver Centurion, Shotgun and one other suit in the finale.

The rest of the Iron Legion cannot really be seen outside of the few have already specifically identified, like Bones, Igor, Heartbreaker, Red Snapper, Striker, and Gemini, and that they all have less then 15 seconds of screen time.

So really, there is maybe 10 new suits. There aren't close to 42 actual suits.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

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Plus with him destroying all the suits, we'll probably never know all the suits he created and what their functions were. Seems like the amount of suits was more to highlight Tony's PTSD and obsessive nature after TA than it was to showcase his plans to use them. I think once we get to TA2, we'll see him only having a couple suits, probably ones similar to Bleeding Edge or his current Model 40 in the comics.

 

[Spikey]

The only thing that bothers me is that...

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I remember reading a while ago Feige or Favreau saying that the Mandarin was behind ALL, including the events of the first two movies...He was planning all of it since IM 1... but what we've got is rather dumb. Killian was only exposed because some of his test subjectes exploded in public. Trevor says it: The Mandarin was born to cover up all of those "accidents". The only thing that Killian wanted is to put Extremis on the market. I mean, he didn't even care about Tony until he made it personal

 

[gohei_]

I asked this in the deleated mandarin thread but what do you think was the purpose of [BLACKOUT]the shield tattoo on Trevors neck?[/BLACKOUT] It was shown in the trailers but not in the movie as far as I can remember.

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

I asked this in the deleated mandarin thread but what do you think was the purpose of [BLACKOUT]the shield tattoo on Trevors neck?[/BLACKOUT] It was shown in the trailers but not in the movie as far as I can remember.

There was no purpose to any of it. It was all an elaborate ruse in the end.

 

[The Infernal]

I dunno... A character, called The Mandarin, who is basically just a mesh of eastern iconography, just being portrayed as one shade evil is a little dodgy... Add to the fact that

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had he turned out to be the real villain, having him fought by a guy with stars and stripes painted on him could be very problematic for a lot of people in the audience, especially non-comic fans. Hell, as a comic fan, even I would have found that tough. As my GF kept asking me during the film "WHY do they call him the Mandarin? If he was asian in the comics but he's not NOW, why call him that? Isn't that just weird and offensive?"

But then the fact that it's actually Killian who has constructed an image that he KNOWS Americans will be able to hate and fear, is actually quite smart. It's a way of turning something that could have been politically incorrect into something that's making a smart critique on the fear of terror culture within America

I'm not saying it wasn't a smart move, it clearly was and I loved it also. I really enjoyed Ben's performance (it seemed like he was really enjoying himself).

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Though some people may have been uneasy with the look, I don't think that makes it automatically politically incorrect and him being a mixture of cultures, including American (and not just his voice) could have served a similar purpose on eschewing the image of the stereotypical terrorist that is perpetuated elsewhere in movies and on the news.

The fiction of 'The Mandarin' within the move was presented as pretty much how Killian thought of himself. He was presented as using the imagery very consciously himself (though obviously he was just being fed the lines by the real deal), but I still have to wonder just how different would it have been in terms of sidestepping the P.C. issue.

I think the reaction 'The Mandarin' got when he was first shown in promo pics and trailers is a good indicator of that. Sure there were the odd person questioning it but most seemed to be on board.

Though we may never know, I personally don't think a version unlike Ben's Mandarin or even a Chinese Mandarin is automatically unworkable on film. I mean comics may not be the most high brow of media, but I doubt Marvel would stick with the character and keep bringing him back if he was completely unworkable as a concept.

 

[TeeKay]

I'm not saying it wasn't a smart move, it clearly was and I loved it also. I really enjoyed Ben's performance (it seemed like he was really enjoying himself).

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Though some people may have been uneasy with the look, I don't think that makes it automatically politically incorrect and him being a mixture of cultures, including American (and not just his voice) could have served a similar purpose on eschewing the image of the stereotypical terrorist that is perpetuated elsewhere in movies and on the news.

The fiction of 'The Mandarin' within the move was presented as pretty much how Killian thought of himself. He was presented as using the imagery very consciously himself (though obviously he was just being fed the lines by the real deal), but I still have to wonder just how different would it have been in terms of sidestepping the P.C. issue.

I think the reaction 'The Mandarin' got when he was first shown in promo pics and trailers is a good indicator of that. Sure there were the odd person questioning it but most seemed to be on board.

Though we may never know, I personally don't think a version unlike Ben's Mandarin or even a Chinese Mandarin is automatically unworkable on film. I mean comics may not be the most high brow of media, but I doubt Marvel would stick with the character and keep bringing him back if he was completely unworkable as a concept.

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