Justice League The Justice League Casting Thread - Part 4

[shauner111]

Yep, it's like a therapy to release his rage on criminals. It's a function of the cowl to serve as a disguise (or if u want to just believe he's putting on the voice himself as a disguise from his true self). And it's psychological because he morphs into another character when the suit goes on.

 

[Midnight Black]

Yep, it's like a therapy to release his rage on criminals. It's a function of the cowl to serve as a disguise (or if u want to just believe he's putting on the voice himself as a disguise from his true self). And it's psychological because he morphs into another character when the suit goes on.

Actually he morphs into another character when out of the suit lol. Batman is his real self lol, but I get what you are saying...just messing with you

I'm just curious why you (and many others) think this way.

How do IM1 and Thor lead into each other any more than TDK and MoS?

MoS will bring itself to the 'real-world' in order to make the connection, the same way Thor did. Didn't you see the trailer?

Why do you think Bruce appearing as an easter egg would be any more forced than Coulson appearing in Thor?

IM1 didn't necesssarily lead into Thor, there were stepping stones. IM2, Thor and Avengers and even Hulk to an extent lead into each other and Avengers.

If IM1 jumped straight into Thor I might be able to see it as a problem, but wit the additional films, end credit scenes and the fact that it was known that it was a shared universe and elements existed for each to be possible is not the same as TDK and MOS sharing the same universe.

IM1 was more theatrical and comical than BB or TDK IMO and made it easier to lead into the subsequent Marvel films.

Coulson appearing in Thor is definitely not same as Bruce appearing in MOS. It's just not and that comparison is not the same, because it was established that these marvel universes existed within each other.

Also, I'm so tired of everyone mentioning the "trailer" as the tell tale sign that this movie is "realistic." You can't really tell anything from trailers. So many trailers have either shown good movies to be bad or vice-a-versa that a trailer honestly means nothing. Plus the B role of flying seagulls, water on rocks and clouds is no indicator of how this movie will truly be, only that the cinematographer took some creative freedoms to add to the trailer. Heck Bay's armageddon had huge amounts of B-Role for the trailer, but that doesn't mean nothing. "didn't you see the trailer?" geez.

 

[BatLobster]

@Midnight Black..

Cool man. You know..we don't know how Bale will be written. We can all speculate on how he's playing Nolans Batman, etc. But what if it's connected to the trilogy, and they explain it all, yet as the movie progresses we start seeing Bruce use his mind more than he ever did in the trilogy? And he has a new suit. Not as growly in the voice because he's only in a area with the rest of the League, who know his identity. (Just like when he talks to Blake or Selina towards the end of Rises and he's speaking normally).

That's the thing, we could be getting the same Batman from the trilogy, connected and everything, yet at the same time Bale starts playing him differently.

I've been thinking about this. The people working on the Bat suits (on set and this is even told in the official books) that the growly voice is supposed to be a device in the cowl. It connects to the jawline, etc and it's like a switch so when he speaks to strangers/criminals or is simply getting into character, you hear his voice through a growl. Even though we know Bale is doing it manually and Nolan may add some work in post-production.

So if he gets a new suit we may see him not using the growl. Another reason is because of the rage and anger he has while in the suit. But he's let go of that anger now. He would be back as Batman only because he's asked to.

I would love to see Bale go all Keaton while in the suit. Barely speaking and then it's only a clear whisper. Then with the cowl on while speaking to Superman, it's in his normal voice.

Going off of what you said there, when you think back to the DCAU, even though the Batman in Justice League was still the Batman of the Animated Series, I felt they evolved the character. Not only the longer ears, but I think Conroy's performance changed a bit too.

So yeah, we shouldn't rule out an evolution of the character even if it's connected to the Nolan-verse. Ultimately, this would be as spin-off of those movies, not a direct sequel. There would be some room to push things in a slightly different direction.

 

[Lily Adler]

Funny. Regardless the different choices in our fan casts, it's still the JLEC.

What's wrong with you people???

I came into the thread- opening on this particular page... the first post had Katy Perry as WW!!!

I panicked... I hit "page 18"...

...the first post had Katy Perry as WW!!!


Man... the shock!

Don't condemn all the posters for dnno1's very questionable choice for WW.

 

[7heBoss]

If they wanted to they could (though they'd run into the problem with the cast playing multiple characters...)

Inception can't be in the same world because Caine, JGL, Cotillard, Hardy, Watanabe and Murphy are different characters leading different lives..

I feel silly even commenting on this because so much discussion has already passed and plus it doesn't even matter, but oh well...

You are both mistaken because there are no actors from Inception that are in the Man of Steel. I was specific when I said Inception and Man of Steel. All the characters/actors you are referencing are in The Dark Knight, which I never mentioned.

The only point I was trying to make is this, Yes is it possible to link two completely different movie franchises like Inception and Man of Steel, but just because you can doesn't make it the best course of action. That is how I feel about TDK and MOS. I understand that it is possible to combine them but i just think it is a bad idea. It is my opinion, You aren't forced to agree with me, I just don't want them mixing together those two universes

 

[erehwon0]

So the fact that Nolans/Goyer worked so hard to "ground" Batman and make characters as close to real life as possible, you do not find contrary to MOS' alien invasion and a superhero with super powers?

Also, so you would rather have Bale come back for MOS2 or a World's Finest or JL films and THEN reintroduce a new Batman series after that rather than using JL as a launching pad for a new Batman?

Idc if Nolan and Snyder said that MOS would be more "real" in tone and realistic that still doesn't mean to me that it will be real like TDK series. It's superman for crying out loud. Yeah sure there probably won't be freeze guns and stuff, but it's still going to be out there. Yeah, I bet the emotions, reactions and situations will be more "real" than seen in previous Superman films, but it still doesn't mean that the two worlds are the same, especially after what was seen and established in TDK series.

Sorry, I just think it would be contradictory and that they should just go with a new Batman for the JL movie and not try to please fans or milk the success TDK franchise just to make extra money.

As much as I like AVP, Freddy vs. Jason and AVP2 doesn't mean I want the same to happen with JL. At least those films through easter eggs about each other's existence long before they did a cross over.

Also in terms of logistics? If Bale is the Batman in JL, he might be visibly older than the rest of the cast if they are going with the trilogy route! Again I am not talking about Batman but Christian Bale, the actor. Please know the difference!

 

[shauner111]

.....So?

 

[elgaz]

Regardless of continuity concerns or whatever, that's a great looking cast. I'd love to see them onscreen together.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Yeah it's a good cast aside from Kate Beckinsale. Should be replaced with Emily Blunt.

 

[Midnight Black]

Yes, that is a good looking cast. Then again a lot of casts are good looking casts and chemistry means way more than big names. But again that is a good looking cast.

Going off of what you said there, when you think back to the DCAU, even though the Batman in Justice League was still the Batman of the Animated Series, I felt they evolved the character. Not only the longer ears, but I think Conroy's performance changed a bit too.

So yeah, we shouldn't rule out an evolution of the character even if it's connected to the Nolan-verse. Ultimately, this would be as spin-off of those movies, not a direct sequel. There would be some room to push things in a slightly different direction.

You know I pretty much agree with this and thought of this awhile ago. This would be my only reason for accepting Nolans/Goyer's TDK universe as as apart of the Snyder/Nolan universe.

BTAS evolved into BTNA and into JL/JLU. BTNA even did crossovers with SupermanTAS. However, there were still stepping stones I feel; plus, BTAS introduced comic book and fantastical themes that made the transition to STAS easy and not out of place. There has been no transition from the TDK films to MOS IMO. However, if they did decide to make it a shared universe there would need to be some changes to Batman I feel in order for him to fit IMO.

not to but I'm going to leave this discussion alone for awhile lol. Back to my hatred of Gosling and now not wanting to see Beckinsale as WW either.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Also in terms of logistics? If Bale is the Batman in JL, he might be visibly older than the rest of the cast if they are going with the trilogy route! Again I am not talking about Batman but Christian Bale, the actor. Please know the difference!

Who cares if he looks older? Only way that would be an issue if you don't want the CHARACTER to look older. And on that route, what's the big deal if Bruce Wayne looks the oldest? First of all, be could be the oldest and I'd be happy. Secondly, he's the only one without some super power, making battles harder and more stressful on him. Wouldn't his face and body be more weathered for that reason alone?

 

[Rorschach2012]

Who cares if Bale looks older? Batman should be the oldest guy on the team anyways. The veteran. I can't believe some of the things you guys complain about

 

[shauner111]

Back to my hatred of Gosling and now not wanting to see Beckinsale as WW either.

How can one hate Gosling? *shakes head in disbelief*

 

[shauner111]

I'll post this again cuz it's the ultimate sexified cast ...but adding Reynolds as GL, just because we know nothing about that situation.

Henry Cavill (Clark Kent/Kal-El/Superman)

Christian Bale (Bruce Wayne/Batman)

Emily Blunt (Diana Prince/Wonder Woman)

Ryan Gosling (Barry Allen/Flash)

Ryan Reynolds (Hal Jordan/Green Lantern)

 

[Rorschach2012]

How can one hate Gosling? *shakes head in disbelief*

Great cast Shauner.

And I dunno how anyone could hate Gosling after Drive and even the Notebook... which may be a romantic movie but he was what made the movie great

 

[shauner111]

Great cast Shauner.

And I dunno how anyone could hate Gosling after Drive and even the Notebook... which may be a romantic movie but he was what made the movie great

Thanks ! Yeah, he's great in Blue Valentine too and pretty goddamn hilarious when he wants to be. People (myself included) need to see his next two movies, they may turn out to be his best yet. And most serious. The Place Beyond The Pines & Only God Forgives. Can't wait.

 

[quixote_coyote]

oh god blue valentine was a terrible movie. and im with midnight black; gosling sucks. i think the hatred stems from him being fan cast so often. i mean, hes literally just an ok actor, nothing more, but everyone here thinks he would make an amazing flash or batman. i whole heartedly disagree

 

[Rowsdower!]

Thanks ! Yeah, he's great in Blue Valentine too and pretty goddamn hilarious when he wants to be. People (myself included) need to see his next two movies, they may turn out to be his best yet. And most serious. The Place Beyond The Pines & Only God Forgives. Can't wait.

Yeah, those are two of my most anticipated movies this year. They both look like they could be subtle sequels to Drive, haha. Also, have you seen Lars & the Real Girl? Gosling was fantastic in that. I don't get how anyone could call him a bad actor.

 

[combocaz]

Yeah it's a good cast aside from Kate Beckinsale. Should be replaced with Emily Blunt.

I was thinking about blunt but i just cant see it, beautiful woman, great actress but i dont see it yet. I guess its because i always thought she would make a good lois lane. I went with beckinsale because she has a better resume when it comes to action films.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I was thinking about blunt but i just cant see it, beautiful woman, great actress but i dont see it yet. I guess its because i always thought she would make a good lois lane. I went with beckinsale because she has a better resume when it comes to action films.

In your sig you suggest Amber Heard, that's a much better idea than Beckinsale

 

[shauner111]

oh god blue valentine was a terrible movie. and im with midnight black; gosling sucks. i think the hatred stems from him being fan cast so often. i mean, hes literally just an ok actor, nothing more, but everyone here thinks he would make an amazing flash or batman. i whole heartedly disagree

LMAO oh man. That's hilarious. I guess we have opposite outlooks on what quality is.

Yeah, those are two of my most anticipated movies this year. They both look like they could be subtle sequels to Drive, haha. Also, have you seen Lars & the Real Girl? Gosling was fantastic in that. I don't get how anyone could call him a bad actor.

Actually I haven't seen that movie, Ill check it out. Thanks!

 

[Rorschach2012]

oh god blue valentine was a terrible movie. and im with midnight black; gosling sucks. i think the hatred stems from him being fan cast so often. i mean, hes literally just an ok actor, nothing more, but everyone here thinks he would make an amazing flash or batman. i whole heartedly disagree

Lol alright dude. Drive was the best movie of 2011 but okay.

Superman: Henry Cavill
Batman: Christian Bale
Wonder Woman: Emily Blunt
Flash: Ryan Gosling
Green Lantern: Idris Elba
Aquaman: Charlie Hunnam
Martian Manhunter: Giancarlo Esposito

Maxwell Lord: Tom Cruise
Brainiac: Benedict Cumberbatch
Lex Luthor: Jason Isaacs
Talia Al Ghul: Marion Cotillard

 

[shauner111]

Lol alright dude. Drive was the best movie of 2011 but okay.

Superman: Henry Cavill
Batman: Christian Bale
Wonder Woman: Emily Blunt
Flash: Ryan Gosling
Green Lantern: Idris Elba
Aquaman: Charlie Hunnam
Martian Manhunter: Giancarlo Esposito

Drive was also my favorite of 2011.

But man, that is one hell of a lineup. Elba as John Stewart is pure gold, I don't care if it's too popular of a choice. Esposito and Hunnam are great choices as well if those characters ever come to life.

I think they'll need to cast a badass if they ever want Aquaman to be looked at differently by the public. Hunnam is that guy.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Guys who don't like Ryan Gosling are just jealous.

 

[erehwon0]

All right Batman is the oldest hero in the Justice League. I just hope in a few years time Christian Bale is not one of those actors signing headshots at conventions!