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Justice League The Justice League Critic Reviews/Rotten Tomatoes Thread - Part 2

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All movie fans should be concerned with this.

I don't know. If the critic goes to rotten tomatoes and sees what he's written is a discrepancy... it's up to him to resolve it.

In this context, I'm not sure if the critics would care what a third party thinks his review would be determined as, unless they specify it as such.

Because a mixed review certainly isn't a fresh review or an immediate rotten review.

This whole thing is making me use metacritic more and more, though.
 
Like what? I'm honestly interested to hear what Snyder's qualities are that warrant him sticking around for so long.
When forced to shoot in a more natural environment, without his usual visual tricks, he can make a rather good looking film. Good portions of MoS were like this.
 
Are you going to see Justice League, C.Lee?

I plan to. I doubt it will be opening weekend. I don't get to many opening weekends anymore (for example, I didn't see Thor Ragnarok until Wednesday).
 
For me, when I hear a movie (on whatever subject) is being made....I either am :woot: or :dry: .....then the trailer appears....and I'm either interested in seeing it or not interested. Now....add in I'm old, married, and have a kid....most of the time being interested in seeing it doesn't actually mean I make it to the theater. I try my best to go to all superhero movies. But there are some I have skipped on purpose.
Any film you have gone to you weren't interested in because of the little one Lee, and how did that turn out if you did?
 
Always the same confusion in these RT threads. This is how it works:
Matt Atchity (Editor in Chief at Rotten Tomatoes) said:
It depends on whether the critic is submitting their own review or if the RT staff adds it.

Some critics (about half) add their own reviews to the site, and they mark them Fresh or Rotten themselves.

For the reviews that the Rotten Tomatoes staff finds and adds the Fresh/Rotten determination happens one of two ways:

  • Sometimes a critic has previously set a rating threshold (i.e. anything that is 3.5/5 stars or above should be marked Fresh) so the staff will use that as a direction. Keep in mind that 3.5/5 stars may mean Rotten to another critic; different critics have different tipping points.

  • When a critic doesn't use a score and doesn't submit their own reviews (this happens with Variety and The Hollywood Reporter, for example), then the Rotten Tomatoes team will read the review and make a determination. And frequently the RT staff will check with a critic on a borderline review to make sure that it's marked correctly.
 
Always the same confusion in these RT threads. This is how it works:

Also, on occasion there is a review that is legitimately rated wrong. It is rare, but I've seen it happen. What happens in that case (certainly for films which get a lot of traffic) is that readers will notify RT and they will correct it, generally within a few hours.
 
Always the same confusion in these RT threads. This is how it works:

Thanks for that. We can all do without the ‘DCEU Rotten Tomatoes evil conspiracy!’ theories running around again.

Nothing has changed at RT.
 
Any film you have gone to you weren't interested in because of the little one Lee, and how did that turn out if you did?

Oh, of course....that's part of parenting. Been to many animated things that I fell asleep in. The one movie she made me go to that I didn't want to, but I wound up liking was ANNIE. I don't like musicals very much....but ANNIE was good.
 
Justice League now has more rotten reviews than all 3 MCU movies released this year combined.
 
I’m excited for the reactions thread where every fanboy says that the entire crowd gave the movie a standing applause at the end.

“Everyone loved it and said they’ll definitely be back!!” lol yea right
 
As I say in all these RT threads.....a RT score has absolutely nothing....nothing....to do with whether I want to see a movie or not. I feel you guys place too much emphasis on what the site says.

This is something I can definitely agree with.
I never read film reviews from critics. I didn't even realize
people put so much stock into it until BvS released.
 
All movie fans should be concerned with this.

Why 4/5 critics change their reviews it’s not gonna change the percentage by a large margin. These guys are just drawing attention to themselves while the crazies are out. How about making an overall better product and you won’t have critics tearing it apart i.e WW.
 
So for all of you fans that ignore the reviews and just go by "your own opinion"... what exactly are you camping out on this Rotten Tomatoes thread for?

To teach you kids WHATZ UP!!! lol BOOM AGAIN!!! :cwink:
 
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All movie fans should be concerned with this.
It makes perfect sense.
If it doesn't have a "clear positive or negative slant" it's basically 50/50, or, in technical terms, "meh".
A 50 percent score on RT is "rotten" as it has to be at least 60 percent to be fresh.
 
This is probably the only time I've disagreed with the RT score on the new DC movies.

BVS and Suicide Squad deserved their rating IMO.

Justice League I think should have reflected a higher score. It has problems like jarring reshoots and having to clean up BVS' mess, but it was overall an enjoyable experience for me.

Then again I've been a huge DC fan since I was 4 years old so seeing the team chemistry work on screen (and it does work great) was enough to make me enjoy this and overlook its flaws.
 
Critical opinion only means anything to you if you want it to mean anything to you. Objectively, we're talking about the opinions of 300 people, out of over 100 million who will probably see the movie. That's in no way shape or form a good indicator of the impact a movie will have on its audience. Even the audience score represents relatively small percentage, and a huge percentage of these people aren't just regular moviegoers. What i'm basically saying is that, when we discuss opinions, we're basically discussing opinions of a certain group of people. Nothing more, nothing less. That means as much as you want it to mean. Just got back from seeing JL with a friend and she gave it 8/10 and told me this was better than Homecoming. I gave it a much lower score, but it's always funny to see how real life opinions differ more often than not from what i read online.

The point is though, we all only have a finite amount of time to give to going to the cinema to watch a movie. We have to rely to a certain extent on the opinions of others to help us decide what to see, and what not to see. The argument ‘ignore critics and make your own mind up’ doesn’t actually hold a lot of weight, unless you have the free time and disposable income to go and watch every movie. That’s just a fact of life. These critic reviews are important, whether people like it or not.
 
Wasn't BvS around 37% as well at this time? this could get ugly.
 
Oh, so now we’ve reached the inevitable “it’s a conspiracy” stage.

Suicide Squad still has the best DC fan freakout. Remember that guy that started a petition to shutdown RT after it scored low?
 
It actually holds a lot of weight, as long as you often find yourself liking movies critics aren't crazy about. That happens with a lot of people. I can guarantee you 80% of the people i know enjoyed Suicide Squad and Batman vs Superman. I can also tell you i know quite a lot of people who didn't like movies like Homecoming or Civil War. It's difficult to suggest to those people that they should start paying attention to what critics say.

Again, the point of view of a critic doesn't necessarily reflect the point of view of a regular moviegoer. How much diversity do you really get out of rotten tomatoes? In terms of age, nationality, mindset, film taste, etc? I'd say the pool is far from big. When you consider the hundreds of millions who will watch a film, rotten tomatoes only gives you a glimbse of what a very, very, very small percentage of the population might feel about a movie.

You’re not really putting up an argument that contradicts my point here though, mate. I’m not suggesting that everyone should listen to what critics say, I’m just saying that it’s something millions of people do, because they simply don’t have time or money to see every film. Reviews are important. And a consensus from hundreds of reviews is a valid way for folks to decide whether they should see a movie or not.
 
Not everyone has the disposable income to glibly catch any movie that might interest them. It's not a good investment if you are likely to not enjoy the movie. Word of mouth is important, whether it's critics or the general audience. Thanks to the internet, it's easier than ever to gauge general reaction. The dumpsterfire status of BvS was well telegraphed in social media.
 
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