i didn't like IM3 overall, but i did like the Mandarin thing. I liked how it was revealed, the abruptness and absurdity of the whole thing.Iron Man 3 was a good film. Literally, the only legitimate complaint I ever see people use for why it's so bad is the Mandarin twist, which was brilliant as a film technique.
This just sounds like an awesome action flick to me.running around, 'now we have to go here, now we have to go here, now we have to catch them here..', shooting, punching, running, exploding, quipping, fake epic showdowns, just ridiculousness.
83 vs 72. And gaps that big don't tend to change that much over time.
User score is for IM3 is 80%
No, it's not. It's 82% and was 83% a couple days ago. It's not that hard to go and actually check this **** before posting. Do it.User score is for IM3 is 80%
Yes, it's "overrated" because you don't like it. Nice to know you're the most important person in the world.IM3 being overrated only fuels my hatred
No, it's not. It's 82% and was 83% a couple days ago. It's not that hard to go and actually check this **** before posting. Do it.
Yes, it's "overrated" because you don't like it. Nice to know you're the most important person in the world.
Iron Man 3 is at 78% at the time I am posting this.
The scores do go up and down a bit, I've noticed this before.
This just sounds like an awesome action flick to me.
The movie was definitely flawed like you said and I agree with a lot of the points you made but it wasn't a horrible mess that a lot of people claim it to be just because they didn't like the changes from the comics, which is my point. So I don't think we disagree.
still a four star film. With TDKR now considered the weakest I agree with most/everything RT Users say now.
Except if you read it yourself you'll see it's been at 83% (now 82%) for the past 2-3 months.In TDKR general dissusion a user who regularly checks RT stated that the site has got an update on all it's CBM's and IM3 with a few others dropped. This was only a few weeks ago and scores rarely go up apparantly.
Marvel and especially Feige care about their characters. Feige is a long time comic fan and most of the people who work for and with Marvel are (unlike pretty much every other studio). Yes they're looking to make more money but Marvel has shown they care more about making a good film that respects the characters and relying on that and their name to bring in money than compromising and gutting franchises to try and chase money, which never works anyway. If people like Feige and Avi Arad didn't care about the characters then the MCU and Marvel films as a whole would never have become as successful as they are now.This is going to upset alot of people but I'm going to say it because this is the truth in movie business.
ALL studios do not really care about their characters. They are just bussiness men, they are there to maximise the cash. FOX,MARVEL,SONY whatever it doesn't matter who makes them, it's the creative teams and crew that make a film what it is.
We're talking about the audience score not the critic score, which is what you're referring to. After the initial two-three weeks the critic score ceases to move because most reviews are accounted for.Iron Man 3 is at 78% at the time I am posting this.
The scores do go up and down a bit, I've noticed this before.
How Fox handled Galactus was an abortion - don't sugar coat it. Fox didn't show him because they didn't have the balls to do it. Done right it would've blown people away. And where did playing it safe get them? A 37 Rotten Tomatoes score and legions of disgruntled fans. Meanwhile a guy in a metal suit, viking gods from space, the star spangled man, and the jolly green giant got people to the theater in droves.
And since when does the Silver Surfer take down the one who gave him his power? Where was the Watcher? And what did Reed Richards and the FF actually do to save the day? They did stop that ferris wheel though. That was cool I guess.
To compare the Mandarin (a racist caricature among some of Iron's Man's very weak gallery of rogues) to Galactus (Jack Kirby's cosmic masterpiece) and Dr. Doom (the inspiration of Darth Vader himself) is ludicrous. I never knew there were so many die hard Mandarin fans out there. There's a vocal minority out there that seem to hate Iron Man 3. Personally I was not a fan of the twist because I read comics and want to see Fin Fang Foom but I can't argue that it was a good film and most people love it. BO receipts, critic scores and audience scores say so.
Interestingly, out of curiosity I crunched some numbers: the average box office receipts and RT scores of every Fox CBM and every Marvel Studios CBM.
Marvel Studios
Average RT score: 80
Average BO: $716,653,131
Fox
Average RT score: 54
Average BO: $310,378,639
So I think the question we should be asking is how many people here work for Fox?
I also disliked IM3. And for many more reasons than the fake Mandarin stuff. Tony Stark was suddenly a nervous wreck who kept referencing Avengers every five seconds, those who went into the Extremis program suddenly turned evil, there were too many empty suits flying around (who needs Avengers when he has that armoured army at his disposal!?.
I was surprised the critics loved it so much, and stunned that it made so much money. In my view, it earned far more than the film merited.
We're talking about the audience score not the critic score, which is what you're referring to. After the initial two-three weeks the critic score ceases to move because most reviews are accounted for.
That's because of the X-Men's subject matter (which is honestly heavy handed and the movies a bit pretentious as a result, but w/e). You'll get that when Marvel makes the Inhumans. Will be interesting to see what all you Fox and X-Men fans have to say after that movie.But I do think the X-Men movies offer a lot more substance than any of Marvel's offerings. I find more going on in the X-Men movies, more meaning, more to think about.
They don't just give the "feeling" of something fresh they're completely different stuff.Marvel has the advantage of releasing individual films (Thor, Cap, etc) that give the feeling of something fresh. With X-Men, every film has X-Men in the title so there could be some audience fatigue. Plus, the studio released a movie called The Last Stand that wasn't really the last of anything (though they probably intended it to be at the time they did it).
You have no way of knowing they wanted Silver Surfer or Galactus or that they wanted to put them in Guardians of the Galaxy other than a baseless rumor that Fox themselves denied.All Marvel wants to do is stick Galactus and SS in the Guardians or Avengers franchise, it has no intention of doing another F4 movie. So we won't see any more of F4 if they do go back to Marvel, just like we won't see any more of Blade, Ghost Rider or Daredevil.
You can tell Marvel is starting to run out of steam creatively, or they wouldn't be wanting Galactus or SS back.
They barely ever move. There's no point in arguing the difference a point every 6 months or more makes.The critic scores do move a bit, I've noticed that as well. I was trying to do some number crunching of my own recently and I noticed the scores for some of the X-Men movies changed by a point up or down between the time i first looked and the time I next looked.
Scores are never 'locked', they will alter if someone new goes on to RT and gets their reviews added.
Marvel and especially Feige care about their characters. Feige is a long time comic fan and most of the people who work for and with Marvel are (unlike pretty much every other studio). Yes they're looking to make more money but Marvel has shown they care more about making a good film that respects the characters and relying on that and their name to bring in money than compromising and gutting franchises to try and chase money, which never works anyway. If people like Feige and Avi Arad didn't care about the characters then the MCU and Marvel films as a whole would never have become as successful as they are now.
No, he wanted the symbiote hinted at and set up in SM3. It was Raimi who decided to go all out with the storyline because of what I assume was ******** of not wanting to leave an incomplete plotline in his film (which by his own admission he doesn't like) and not liking Venom (again, by his own admission) and wanting to get him out of the way. Arad is not the reason SM3 was bad and you're completely ignoring his work on all the films prior to SM3. If not for Arad you would have no Marvel movies right now.
Interesting. I guess Rami screwed up big time.The link to the actual article is gone but this is all I could find
http://themovieblog.com/2007/avi-arad-wanted-venom-in-spiderman-3/
Avi wanted Venom in the film but he never said it had to be a full on storyline. People took the excerpt from this article and took it to mean Avi forced all of that Venom stuff. It was Raimi who made it bigger than it had to be. It's the fault of bother Raimi and Arad, not just one or the other.
And I'm by no means saying Arad is a saint, he actually sounds like kind of a jackass from what I've read, but that doesn't change the fact without him we wouldn't have all these movies. And besides, he's not even at Marvel anymore and Feige is definitely better.