The Last Crusade of Relationships

[Lily Adler]

So I was told about a thing called "pheromone parties". Apparently, people throw their dirty clothes in a pile while participants come to smell them. If they like the smell of someone who likes their smell then they're paired up and exchange contact info for a date. So I guess speed dating with dirty clothes would be the jist of it.

I was just wondering would anybody here willingly do that?

 

[Hound55]

Look out for Captain Skidmarks...

 

[Lily Adler]

I would like to think they'd use tops or jackets, mostly. Otherwise...

 

[Anita18]

I think it would have to be t-shirts only. Otherwise...you don't know what you might get in there!

 

[Anubis]

Reminds me of that time I got a lap dance and left with a skid mark on my shirt.

3 in the afternoon is not a good time to hit the strip club ladies and gents.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

So I was told about a thing called "pheromone parties". Apparently, people throw their dirty clothes in a pile while participants come to smell them. If they like the smell of someone who likes their smell then they're paired up and exchange contact info for a date. So I guess speed dating with dirty clothes would be the jist of it.

I was just wondering would anybody here willingly do that?

　
It is interesting you brought up pheromones.

It is well known (and has been demonstrated scientifically) that women are more responsive to pheromones produced by men with high testosterone levels, especially during the most fertile part of her cycle.

For men the best ways to get testosterone levels higher without spending a crap load of money on supplements or illegal androgenic anabolic steroids, would be to get in better shape. By reducing bodyfat% with good nutrition and regular exercise as well as getting a solid nights sleep, men can significantly increase production of this hormone.

Healthy lifestyle is conducive toward higher levels of testosterone. Now it won’t be enough to match absurd supra-physiologic injected doses, but even a slight boost can make a big difference in self confidence, and it surely will not hurt your pheromone production.

 

[Hound55]

Reminds me of that time I got a lap dance and left with a skid mark on my shirt.

3 in the afternoon is not a good time to hit the strip club ladies and gents.

Stay the f*** out of that bar...

 

[bullets]

So I was told about a thing called "pheromone parties". Apparently, people throw their dirty clothes in a pile while participants come to smell them. If they like the smell of someone who likes their smell then they're paired up and exchange contact info for a date. So I guess speed dating with dirty clothes would be the jist of it.

I was just wondering would anybody here willingly do that?

Not sure I'd want to date someone on this avenue. It seems too desperate. Although girls have told me they broke it off with guys or turned them down because they of their body smell. So there is something to it and Supermike335 is probably correct.
The other thing I found out about these parties is that these guys will have a number and photo attached. Also it's usually shirts. Not sure if that makes it seem more normal.

 

[Lily Adler]

Sounds a little less weird, but still...

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I don't think I'd wanna date someone based on their smell... There's just something kind of... Icky about smelling a stranger's clothes.

It's fine if your cuddled up in bed and smelling your boyfriends jumper because it reminds you of him, but this just seems a bit odd.

However, I definitely believe pheremones have a huge deal to do with who I'm attracted too.

That's one of the reasons why, even after everything I know about my ex (boy shagging), my body still reacts whenever he's around me. He still, to this day, turns me on... Which is sickening in my head, but I literally have no control over it. Some people just do that to you.

That's also why I'm starting to get feelings for a guy I've known for years, just because of one night during which I was very closely exposed to whatever pheremones he was emitting

But in a way, that's why I think if you want a happy and successful relationship, you shouldn't allow yourself to choose a mate based solely on your instincts/heart/pheremones (or whatever you want to call it).

Because unfortunately the people who you are most attracted to for THAT reason are often competely logically wrong for you, and will possibly have a negative impact on your life.

It's not just pheremones that are important as well. I think attraction is based on a combination of so many different things, and in reality, very very rarely on just the look of a person.

Body language, choice of words and tone of voice, social skills, the way they act around other people/kids/your friends etc - all massive contributors.

Not to mention taste specific turn ons like power and success, danger, muscular body, intelligence, artistic (musicians etc).

 

[Anita18]

It is interesting you brought up pheromones.

It is well known (and has been demonstrated scientifically) that women are more responsive to pheromones produced by men with high testosterone levels, especially during the most fertile part of her cycle.

Er, I thought it was scientifically proven that women were most attracted to the smell of men who had the most genetic differences from them.

Actually, it was a marker of differences between their "major histocompatibility complexes (MHC), a protein complex that plays a role in an individual’s immunities and self- versus nonself-recognition," according to Wikipedia.

Basically, this subconscious attraction lessens the chance for incest and ensures her offspring having the strongest immune system possible.

I don't see anything about testosterone in that article, and when this made the news I definitely remember it was all about genetic differences, not testosterone specifically. If you want primary sources, Wikipedia does link to them. Otherwise you're going to have to scrounge up some peer-reviewed primary sources of your own. [/scientist]

 

[Erzengel]

If we could just sniff each other's asses like dogs do, relationships would be a whole lot easier.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[terry78]

'Tis true.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Something to look forward too!

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I don't think I'd wanna date someone based on their smell... There's just something kind of... Icky about smelling a stranger's clothes.

It's fine if your cuddled up in bed and smelling your boyfriends jumper because it reminds you of him, but this just seems a bit odd.

However, I definitely believe pheremones have a huge deal to do with who I'm attracted too.

That's one of the reasons why, even after everything I know about my ex (boy shagging), my body still reacts whenever he's around me. He still, to this day, turns me on... Which is sickening in my head, but I literally have no control over it. Some people just do that to you.

That's also why I'm starting to get feelings for a guy I've known for years, just because of one night during which I was very closely exposed to whatever pheremones he was emitting

But in a way, that's why I think if you want a happy and successful relationship, you shouldn't allow yourself to choose a mate based solely on your instincts/heart/pheremones (or whatever you want to call it).

Because unfortunately the people who you are most attracted to for THAT reason are often competely logically wrong for you, and will possibly have a negative impact on your life.

It's not just pheremones that are important as well. I think attraction is based on a combination of so many different things, and in reality, very very rarely on just the look of a person.

Body language, choice of words and tone of voice, social skills, the way they act around other people/kids/your friends etc - all massive contributors.

Not to mention taste specific turn ons like power and success, danger, muscular body, intelligence, artistic (musicians etc).

Whether it's pheremones or whatever, you're right there is just something about certain people.

There's one girl, I just have an undying crush and attraction to her, and it doesn't matter how much I rationally realize she's no good for me (she's not a bad person by any means, but there is absolutely nothing that she could offer me romantically, and can sometimes be destructive towards me) I still find myself hopelessly attracted to her.

I guess in that regard I can understand why women are attracted to the bad guys. She just... Has it over me.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Whether it's pheremones or whatever, you're right there is just something about certain people.

There's one girl, I just have an undying crush and attraction to her, and it doesn't matter how much I rationally realize she's no good for me (she's not a bad person by any means, but there is absolutely nothing that she could offer me romantically, and can sometimes be destructive towards me) I still find myself hopelessly attracted to her.

I guess in that regard I can understand why women are attracted to the bad guys. She just... Has it over me.

Yeah it's weird like that sometimes.

But those are the people you have flings with

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Yeah it's weird like that sometimes.

But those are the people you have flings with

Ha! Well id have a fling with her in a heartbeat!

Unfortunately for me, she's not that type of girl, and even if she was, I know that I don't stand a shot (not defeatist - her and I have talked about that kinda stuff. I know where she stands)

 

[Anubis]

......when she leaves the room, do you sniff the chair she was sitting on?

 

[Erzengel]

Whether it's pheremones or whatever, you're right there is just something about certain people.

There's one girl, I just have an undying crush and attraction to her, and it doesn't matter how much I rationally realize she's no good for me (she's not a bad person by any means, but there is absolutely nothing that she could offer me romantically, and can sometimes be destructive towards me) I still find myself hopelessly attracted to her.

I guess in that regard I can understand why women are attracted to the bad guys. She just... Has it over me.

Have a bit of trouble understanding, why she has nothing to offer you romantically?

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I use the term "hang out" but I also throw some wording in to make sure they know it's not just a friendly hang out. For instance; I'm starting to see a new girl right now. I met her on Super Bowl Sunday, we had a good time chatting it up with each other (with a little flirting). I had gotten her phone number earlier in the day when we first met so I could call her about coming into our gym for a crossfit intro with me. We texted back and forth for a couple days and on Wednesday, I decided to ask her out. The interaction went like so:

Me: "So what are you doing tonight?"
Her: "Making some dinner with Tasha. You?"
Me: "Hanging out with you?"
Her: "Yeah, I would like that. What did you have in mind?"
Me: "What would your preference be? Dancing? Movie? Go somewhere for a drink and talk/make out? (The making out part could really be put into any of those scenarios.)"

Long story short, we went out for dinner that night.... and breakfast the next morning. Thing is, now she's really acting like she's trying to be my girlfriend. Which I have conflicting thoughts about. On one hand, she's super nice and sweet and I enjoy spending time/having sex with her. On the other hand, as my prior dating experience shows, I really do not do relationships. I've been going back and forth over this all weekend. The answer I come up with most is to go outside my comfort zone and just give it a shot. But there is still that little voice in the back of my head saying, "No. This isn't you. You're not a "boyfriend". Get rid of her."

We'll see how it goes.

Well, when she's willing to drop plans with her friend at the drop of a hat to be with you. That's sign number one that she's looking for something more. You should probably just be up front with you on what you want, full on relationship or friends with benefits.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Have a bit of trouble understanding, why she has nothing to offer you romantically?

Outside of her being a big ol' nerd her and I have no common ground what so ever.

We don't want the same things in life, our personalities don't mesh, and maturity wise we are in two completely different realms.

Like I said, she's not a bad girl by any means and I have no ill thoughts of her, but were not compatible and my attraction / infatuation is pretty much purely physical.

 

[Anubis]

So? What's wrong with that?

 

[SuperMike335!!]

Er, I thought it was scientifically proven that women were most attracted to the smell of men who had the most genetic differences from them.

Actually, it was a marker of differences between their "major histocompatibility complexes (MHC), a protein complex that plays a role in an individual’s immunities and self- versus nonself-recognition," according to Wikipedia.

Basically, this subconscious attraction lessens the chance for incest and ensures her offspring having the strongest immune system possible.

I don't see anything about testosterone in that article, and when this made the news I definitely remember it was all about genetic differences, not testosterone specifically. If you want primary sources, Wikipedia does link to them. Otherwise you're going to have to scrounge up some peer-reviewed primary sources of your own. [/scientist]

Its both genetic compatability and strength of the signal relates to levels of sex hormones.

Obviously higher levels of the wrong pheromone will not attract a poor genetic compatable partner. If anything it would sooner turn them away from you. But then when it comes down to it isn't that a good thing?

 

[Erzengel]

Outside of her being a big ol' nerd her and I have no common ground what so ever.

We don't want the same things in life, our personalities don't mesh, and maturity wise we are in two completely different realms.

Like I said, she's not a bad girl by any means and I have no ill thoughts of her, but were not compatible and my attraction / infatuation is pretty much purely physical.

So? What's wrong with that?

The "no common ground" is a misnomer as, it's not a big issue if someone is into different things as long as the other person is supportive.

Wanting different things, personalities not meshing and maturity are important. I don't know if I could be in a relationship with someone who didn't have much of a sense of humor or was too immature.