Yeah, I prefer girls who at least "say" they hate violence.
I think if a woman says she hates violence, she probably hates violence. I also don't think they're attracted to violence. There *may* be some small attraction to physical strength, although by and large *most* females will be with a guy who is physically stronger. That's just probability. There are not many women I know stronger than me, for example, and while I'm a gym rat, I'm not a pro bodybuilder or powerlifter either.
Violence is fairly popular in our culture, and it's also very glamourized. Someone who lives in Darfur probably would be horrified by our depiction of it on television. So I think what you'll find is in our culture and some others, the mystique of violence, or the idea of a physically capable man takes on a kind of superhero-ish quality. In practice I find many women are very turned off by it, especially for those who like to maintain a certain status or appearance.
You seem to often confuse what women "tolerate" with what they find "attractive". Farting is something I tolerate because I understand it happens, but I don't find it attractive. Similarly, there are justifiable scenarios, like with that Father you mentioned, where the reaction of violence is understandable, even if regretable.
Violence is just not a trait anyone should highlight when trying to 'get a girl', unless she actually says she likes it, then by all means.
I think it does go all the way back to something primitive.
If caveman A bashes the brains of caveman B, then the only way to survive the harsh winter is to shack up with caveman A, since caveman B has his skull contents leaking out.
That's not attraction, that's hedging your bets. Why do you assume this is a desireable circumstance for that woman? Sure she might survive the winter, but she'll also be sleeping through it with one eye open. It's much safer for her in that scenario to go with Captain Caveman there, but not really an enviable circumstance. What you're talking about here is coercion. Even if that was me, a man, a man capable of defending himself, I'd still team up with that guy because he offered me a better chance of survival than going alone. That's not attraction.
If there is no selective pressure against that being a turn on, then it will still show up in the current generation, and every generation down the line unless something puts selective pressure against it.
There is tons of selective pressure against that being a 'turn on'. You keep misreading biology. Humans are a social species. Our genes select coorperative traits over antisocial ones. Neandrathals were believed to be much stronger and much more violent than homo sapiens, yet they were less capable of working in groups, hence their extinction/possible merging with our gene pool.
I'm in no way suggesting a guy should go pick a fight to look good or to pick up a woman, that's a bad idea. Even if you win you can get in major trouble, or at least lose a lot of money.
What they can do is stand up for themselves however, and not let someone push them around, especially in front of their girl.
^This. The ability to look like you can be violent
if the situation calls for. I'd say for the most part the appearance of being unintimidated by other guys is way more attractive than the actual act of defending oneself. In fact I think the latter is jarring and scary. People tend to flee when fights erupt. That's a pretty
natural human response.
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