The Official "Ask A Brotha" Thread - Part 1

[chamber-music]

You'll have to learn how to have sex in a room where 26 Hello Kitties are staring blankly at you.

Sadly there won't be any sex. If Japanese folk won't procreate to halt their rapidly declining population then they certainly won't have sex with you unless you have tentacles

 

[Arach Knight]

Sadly there won't be any sex. If Japanese folk won't procreate to halt their rapidly declining population then they certainly won't have sex with you unless you have tentacles

The hello kitty remark from the other poster was a bit much but now the line has been crossed right into the territory of prejudice. There is humor in the vein of parody and then there are uncalled for remarks. More often than not, the unskilled attempt the former but always wind up performing the latter.

Please don't make such stereotypical comments again. This is especially poignant given the fact that just a few pages ago we were all discussing the difficulty of attenuating stereotyoes. Why subject other people to an ignorance we are loathe to endure ourselves?

 

[charl_huntress]

The hello kitty remark from the other poster was a bit much but now the line has been crossed right into the territory of prejudice. There is humor in the vein of parody and then there are uncalled for remarks. More often than not, the unskilled attempt the former but always wind up performing the latter.

Please don't make such stereotypical comments again. This is especially poignant given the fact that just a few pages ago we were all discussing the difficulty of attenuating stereotyoes. Why subject other people to an ignorance we are loathe to endure ourselves?

There are a lot of posters on this board who think they are funnier than they really are. They like to put smileys behind derogatory remarks because then that supposedly makes it funny.

 

[Pink Ranger]

The hello kitty remark from the other poster was a bit much but now the line has been crossed right into the territory of prejudice. There is humor in the vein of parody and then there are uncalled for remarks. More often than not, the unskilled attempt the former but always wind up performing the latter.

Please don't make such stereotypical comments again. This is especially poignant given the fact that just a few pages ago we were all discussing the difficulty of attenuating stereotyoes. Why subject other people to an ignorance we are loathe to endure ourselves?

I'm Asian, cut me some slack, man! t:

 

[charl_huntress]

I just think we all should be careful with racial jokes.

Anyhoo...to get back on topic... What book or movie do feel "defines" the black experience in America or the country you reside?

 

[eon001]

not every race swap needs to have a deeper meaning behind it. and i can't see how black people would have benefited from the interracial relationship. Miles Teller isn't exactly god's gift to women. and it's not like Johnny couldn't score with a woman of a different race. to cast them both as black just to avoid the adoption angle would be the cop-out, imo. mixed families exist. in a perfect world, it wouldn't even matter.

See here's my 2nd problem with the adoption angle. If there going to go there, why does she have to be white? Wouldn't this be a great opportunity to increase the diversity of the cast? Why can't she be Mexican or Chinese?

The whole thing stinks of behind the scenes Hollywood politics, agents shaking hands with producers trying to pump up there new young star.

Also, it's not about black people "benefiting from an interracial relationship". It's about creating a believable on screen sibling relationship. I wouldn't care if Sue and Johnny were both, Indian, cambodian or whatever as long as I can buy that there brother and sister.

 

[eon001]

I'm kinda w/ you Cosmic. I'm in the minority that characters on film should be close to/resemble their comic counterpart. It just is what it is. I feel there's still some awesome Black characters that are out there that black actors can portray rather than changing characters for the sake of change. Perry White should be White. Why does it matter? IDK, it just does to me. I'd feel the same if Lucius Fox was cast as a white guy just because.

I know it's just a silly pet peeve. I feel the same way with changing other characterizations too. Gwen Stacy has blonde hair, Mary Jane has Red hair, and that's good for me. When Lois Lane has Red hair it bothers me. /end crazy purist black nerd rant.

Exactly this. Instead of changing characters, why don't we add more pre-existing ethnic characters into the storylines? Elijah Bradley/Patriot would make a great addition to the Captain America 3 cast. 3D man, Blue Marvel etc could be great addition's to future Marvel projects. Hopefully Falcon gets more of a push too.

 

[Manic]

I think part of the reason we're seeing white characters get race-swapped is that they're popular characters that general audiences have heard of (even if only vaguely). The Fantastic Four have had Saturday morning cartoons on and off TV since the 1960's, and their recognizability as a team crosses several generations.

As good as several black superheroes might be, nobody knows who the hell they are, and Marvel isn't exactly jumping at the chance to give major motion pictures to their less prominent characters.

 

[charl_huntress]

That's my point. People keep saying we should use black characters instead of changing the race of other well known characters, but that's the point. There aren't really any well known black characters if you're being honest with yourself.

 

[Sawyer]

I think part of the reason we're seeing white characters get race-swapped is that they're popular characters that general audiences have heard of (even if only vaguely). The Fantastic Four have had Saturday morning cartoons on and off TV since the 1960's, and their recognizability as a team crosses several generations.

As good as several black superheroes might be, nobody knows who the hell they are, and Marvel isn't exactly jumping at the chance to give major motion pictures to their less prominent characters.

Heh...

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[The Hill]

Ganguro girl fashion...derived from the Japanese cultural take on what they view as the stereotypical "Californian" aesthetic, hence the bleach blonde hair and the overuse of spray on tanner. It is humorous to see how the Japanese view White Californians.

Then you have Japanese people emulating Black American culture (though it borders on parody).Those belonging to the B-Style movement seem far more genuine in their infatuation than those who follow the Ganguro trend. Then there is the kokujo (derogatory term) movement in Okinawa, in which Women of that region are renowned for primarily, if not exclusively, dating Black men. Fascinating stuff in Japan. And by fascinating I mean more bizarre than an episode of Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-Chan.

Where do I sign up?

 

[BoredGuy]

And yet there's a Guardians movie coming out, so what the f*** does "well-known" have to do with marvel giving them a movie??
Black Panther, Luke Cage, Blue Marvel, Blade.. these characters are all more well-known than the guardians, and deserve some spotlight. Luckily, at least Luke Cage will be getting it, although via Netflix unfortunately.

I think Marvel's biggest problem with diversity is that the best comic line when it comes to being diverse is the X-Universe, and Fox clearly has little interest in anything but stunt casting. Hell, if an appropriately regal and badass actress had been picked to play Storm instead of friggin Halle Berry, she could totally carry her own spin-off. At least they added Bishop for the next film, too bad the guy barel speaks English, so I'm sure he won't have many lines. And hopefully he doesn't get killed off like the only black guy in First Class.

 

[Arach Knight]

1) Pink Ranger, noted

2) Indeed, Charl. No one has to be politically correct, but I trust that we all possess sufficient common sense to know when we are saying something that can easily be construed as offensive.

3) This is a photo of the Hodgson twins.

They are biological sisters whom have parents that are each half Black and half White. The Punnett Square demonstrates Mendelian inheritance and how one may arrive at such an occurrence with seemingly disparate organisms that share the same parents.

Given that the Fantastic Four is already science-fantasy, it would not be a far stretch at all to introduce actual science to explain a very real phenomenon. Even then, why would it matter if Johnny were adopted instead? Would that make Sue any less his sister? Would it make them have less familial love? Why do people struggle with the acceptance of blended families? This trend of thought has far wider reaching and poignant implications than the simple casting of a Hollywood film.

4) The only prominent Black superheroes aside from Storm are Blade and Spawn. Blade had a good run and the Spawn film was white washed all over the place. Marvel is currently working on a Black Panther feature length for theatrical release as well as a Luke Cage solo series for Netflix. Black superheroes are gaining exposure, but we all know that aside from Storm and Blade, Black superheroes are virtually an unknown quantity.

5) Michael B. Jordan is present because the director already worked with him on Chronicle. It's the same as the fact that Tom Hardy and Michael Cain (among others) pop up in multiple Nolan films or how Johnny Depp appears in multiple films by Tim Burton. When a director and actor form a solid working relationship, that tends to be an enduring relationship. I believe that Michael B. Jordan's casting is more about that particular dynamic than it is about any political agenda for diversity. With that said...

6) Why do people cry about consanguinity between Sue and Johnny yet say nothing when The Dark Knight Rises features an Irish man playing an Arab whose Arab daughter is played by a French woman? No one bothered to question that or complain about needing to believe in that relationship. So why is it suddenly an issue when it involves a Black man having a White sister? Oh, hey Chairy, did someone just say the secret word? HYPOCRISY! YAY!

 

[Anubis]

That's why I'm like, just say they're brother and sister and not even say a damn thing about it. Adopted? One black parent one white? who cares? Lets see somebody get punched in the face.

 

[Pink Ranger]

1)

They are biological sisters whom have parents that are each half Black and half White. The Punnett Square demonstrates Mendelian inheritance and how one may arrive at such an occurrence with seemingly disparate organisms that share the same parents.

Given that the Fantastic Four is already science-fantasy, it would not be a far stretch at all to introduce actual science to explain a very real phenomenon. Even then, why would it matter if Johnny were adopted instead? Would that make Sue any less his sister? Would it make them have less familial love? Why do people struggle with the acceptance of blended families? This trend of thought has far wider reaching and poignant implications than the simple casting of a Hollywood film.

But you know how comic book fans are. They'll say "hey, that's not realistic!" while on the other hand you've got a big guy made of orange rocks and a man who can stretch.

 

[RockSP]

As good as several black superheroes might be, nobody knows who the hell they are, and Marvel isn't exactly jumping at the chance to give major motion pictures to their less prominent characters.

Ant-Man. Guardians of the Galaxy. Maybe you meant their less prominent black characters?

That's my point. People keep saying we should use black characters instead of changing the race of other well known characters, but that's the point. There aren't really any well known black characters if you're being honest with yourself.

As has been said multiple times besides Superman, Batman and Spider-Man, to the average moviegoer none of these characters are that well known.

Blade, The Spirit, Hellboy, Tank Girl, Elektra, Swamp Thing...the list goes on. Yes many of the movies I just named sucked but that's not on the characters themselves, rather the $#@&ty teams behind the production.

 

[chamber-music]

John Boyega is listed as one of the five leads possibly in the running for the new Star Wars film!

Boyega missed out on the young lead in Vaughn's Secret Service movie previously.

I hope Bill Foster (Goliath) is in Ant-Man because besides Michael Pena that film is looking very vanilla.

 

[Manic]

Okay, fair enough with Marvel. I think they've pretty much used up their entire A-list, either with their own studio or elsewhere. They're in the perfect position to make movies for some of their black characters.

But Fox only has Fantastic Four and X-Men. Ain't no black people in the Fan4 franchise. They had to make Alicia black in the previous movies. I'd love for them to use some of the black X-Men other than Storm (or even write a decent Storm for once), but they seem determined to center every X-movie around Wolverine, Magneto, and Professor X; anyone else might as well be mute (and they are in some cases).

 

[Ant-manic]

Ant-Man. Guardians of the Galaxy. Maybe you meant their less prominent black characters?

that would be my assumption. the issue is that there haven't been that many black characters with solo series. Ant-Man's had at least one. the Guardians of the Galaxy have had a series as well. the black characters they are looking at for live-action treatment are those who have had a series (Black Panther, Blade, and Luke Cage). but mainly, new non-white characters were introduced as part of a team or guest-appearances in someone else's book. that made it hard to develop supporting casts and rogues galleries.

 

[Ant-manic]

John Boyega is listed as one of the five leads possibly in the running for the new Star Wars film!

Boyega missed out on the young lead in Vaughn's Secret Service movie previously.

I hope Bill Foster (Goliath) is in Ant-Man because besides Michael Pena that film is looking very vanilla.

but it's a kosher vanilla.

 

[Ant-manic]

See here's my 2nd problem with the adoption angle. If there going to go there, why does she have to be white? Wouldn't this be a great opportunity to increase the diversity of the cast? Why can't she be Mexican or Chinese?

because her birth parents are white?

The whole thing stinks of behind the scenes Hollywood politics, agents shaking hands with producers trying to pump up there new young star.

how is that different from any other hollywood production?

Also, it's not about black people "benefiting from an interracial relationship". It's about creating a believable on screen sibling relationship. I wouldn't care if Sue and Johnny were both, Indian, cambodian or whatever as long as I can buy that there brother and sister.

so then there's not a problem. Johnny is Sue's brother. and he happens to be black. Sue is Johnny's sister. and she happens to be white. people are complicating things for no reason. these mixed families exist; have for a long while, now.

 

[chamber-music]

A Fantastic Four movie could feature Wyatt Wingfoot who is Native American and a friend of the FF. Wyatt went on adventures and helped them out in the comics.

The most diverse superheroes are probably the X-Men and those films centre mostly around Wolverine. Xavier and Magneto are secondary leads and almost everyone else is a supporting character in the movie franchise.

 

[Arach Knight]

But you know how comic book fans are. They'll say "hey, that's not realistic!" while on the other hand you've got a big guy made of orange rocks and a man who can stretch.

That is what bothers me the most. People will suspend their disbelief for the most ridiculous things, yet the moment race is a factor their incredulity rises to unimaginable heights.

Comic Book Fan: "A gamma bomb that turns you into a giant adrenaline fueled monster rather than killing you from an overdose of radiation? I can buy into that. But you better not make She-Hulk Mexican! No way can I believe that a White man has a Mexican cousin! It ruins the story and character history!"


Ugh...utter foolishness.

 

[terry78]

The hello kitty remark from the other poster was a bit much but now the line has been crossed right into the territory of prejudice. There is humor in the vein of parody and then there are uncalled for remarks. More often than not, the unskilled attempt the former but always wind up performing the latter.

Please don't make such stereotypical comments again. This is especially poignant given the fact that just a few pages ago we were all discussing the difficulty of attenuating stereotyoes. Why subject other people to an ignorance we are loathe to endure ourselves?

And they say us black people have no sense of humor.

Seriously I understand what you mean man, but we get a little satirical at times, it's just how we are.

 

[Arach Knight]

And they say us black people have no sense of humor.

Seriously I understand what you mean man, but we get a little satirical at times, it's just how we are.

I am Black -_-

I assumed that this was understood when I made mention of our discussion on avoiding chicken stereotypes. At least my rant about White washed films and the loss of minority roles should be a clue...