The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 3

[Stu]

Love that hairnet : D

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Just in case anyone misses this (As not everybody visits the Danny Elfman thread):

Going on sale next Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 12 pm pst

THE DANNY ELFMAN BATMAN COLLECTION: BATMAN / BATMAN RETURNS: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET) LLLC 1327

Limited Edition of 3000 Units

RETAIL PRICE: $49.98

In honor of Batman’s 75th Anniversary, La-La Land Records, Warner Bros. and WEA proudly present THE DANNY ELFMAN BATMAN COLLECTION: BATMAN / BATMAN RETURNS: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET). Batman swoops back into La-La Land with this thrilling re-issue of our previously out-of-print deluxe editions of Danny Elfman’s classic, original scores to the Tim Burton-directed BATMAN (1989) and BATMAN RETURNS (1992), presented together for the first time! While the programs presented on these discs are the same as found on our acclaimed initial releases, BATMAN (1989) has been overseen by producer Neil S. Bulk and newly remastered by James Nelson from recently unearthed score elements, resulting in better sound quality. (BATMAN RETURNS is the same master as our previous release.) Produced by Neil S. Bulk, Dan Goldwasser and MV Gerhard, this special release of 3000 units features gorgeous, completely re-designed packaging by Jim Titus. The 48-page booklet carries over the liner notes from our previous editions. The populace of Gotham would agree – this is one knockout presentation of two iconic scores from a legendary Dynamic Duo in its own right… Tim Burton and Danny Elfman!

TRACK LISTING:

BATMAN
Disc 1
ORIGINAL SCORE FILM VERSION:

1 Main Title* 2:42
2 Family*/First Batman*/Roof Fight* 3:24
3 Jack Vs. Eckhardt* 1:37
4 Up Building*/Card Snap* 1:54
5 Bat Zone*/Axis Set-Up* 1:55
6 Shootout* 5:42
7 Dinner Transition*/Kitchen Dinner*•/Surgery* 3:00
8 Face–Off*•/Beddy Bye* 3:59
9 Roasted Dude* 1:03
10 Vicki Spies (Flowers)* 1:56
11 Clown Attack* 1:59
12 Photos*/Beautiful Dreamer*† 2:30
13 Men at Work* 0:33
14 Paper Spin*/Alicia’s Mask* 0:30
15 Vicki Gets a Gift* 1:13
16 Alicia’s Unmasking* 1:10
17 Batman to the Rescue*/ Batmobile Charge*/Street Fight* 4:25
18 Descent Into Mystery* 1:33
19 Bat Cave*/Paper Throw* 2:48
20 The Joker’s Poem* 0:59
21 Sad Pictures* 0:38
22 Dream*/Challenge*/Tender Bat Cave*• 4:28
23 Charge of the Batmobile* 1:43
24 Joker Flies to Gotham (unused)*/Batwing I* 0:31
25 Batwing II*/Batwing III* 6:02
26 Cathedral Chase* 5:07
27 Waltz to the Death* 3:58
28 Showdown I*/Showdown II* 5:05
29 Finale*• 1:47
30 End Credits* 1:29
Total Time Disc 1: 75:40

Disc 2
ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK (REMASTERED):

1 The Batman Theme 2:37
2 Roof Fight 1:22
3 First Confrontation 4:43
4 Kitchen/Surgery/Face–Off• 3:09
5 Flowers 1:51
6 Clown Attack 1:46
7 Batman to the Rescue 3:57
8 Roasted Dude 1:02
9 Photos/Beautiful Dreamer† 2:31
10 Descent Into Mystery 1:33
11 The Bat Cave 2:35
12 The Joker’s Poem 0:59
13 Childhood Remembered 2:43
14 Love Theme• 1:30
15 Charge of the Batmobile 1:41
16 Attack of the Batwing 4:45
17 Up the Cathedral 5:05
18 Waltz to the Deat* 3:56
19 The Final Confrontation 3:48
20 Finale•† 1:46
21 Batman Theme Reprise 1:31

BONUS CUES
22 News Theme* :11
23 Joker’s Commercial* 1:23
24 Joker’s Muzak (unused)* 1:15
25 Main Title (alternate 1)* 2:42
26 Photos*/Beautiful Dreamer (alt)*• 2:33
27 Batman to the Rescue (original ending)* :52
28 Charge of the Batmobile (film edit)* 1:47
29 Main Title (alternate 2)* 2:47
Total Time Disc 2: 68:20
ALBUM TOTAL TIME: 144:00
* Previously Unreleased
• Includes “Scandalous” composed by Prince with John L. Nelson
† Includes “Beautiful Dreamer” composed by Stephen Foster
All tracks published by Warner-Barham Music LLC except where noted
• Published by Controversy Music – Warner Olive Music LLC. † Published by Minder Music, Ltd.

BATMAN RETURNS
Disc 3
THE SCORE:
1 Birt* of a Penguin/ Main Title 5:38
2 Penguin Spies* 1:09
3 Shadow of Doom*/Clown Attack*/Introducing the Bat• 5:01
4 Intro*/The Zoo•/The Lair 6:00
5 Caught in the Act*/Uh-O* Max* 1:58
6 Kitty Party*/Selina Transforms• 5:30
7 Penguin’s Grand Deed* 1:50
8 The List Begins* :45
9 The Cemetery 2:56
10 Catwoman Saves Joan*/The New Woman* 2:03
11 Penguin’s Surprise 1:43
12 Bad, Bad Dog•/ Batman vs. Circus/ Selina’s Shopping Spree• 5:42
13 Cat Chase• 2:12
14 Candidate Cobblepot* :58
15 The Plan*/Kidnapping* 2:32
16 Sore Spots/Batman’s Closet* 3:22
17 The Plot Unfolds* 1:15
18 Roof Top Encounters• 4:49
19 Batman’s Wild Ride• 4:19
20 Fall from Grace• 4:17
21 Revealed*/Party Crasher* 3:18
Total Time Disc 3: 68:08

Disc 4
THE SCORE (cont’d)
1 Umbrella Source/ The Children’s Hour/War• 7:53
2 Final Confrontation•/Finale 9:15
3 A Shadow of Doubt•/ End Credits• 6:15
4 Face to Face 4:18
Performed by Siouxsie and the Banshees

ALTERNATE AND ALBUM CUES:

5 The Zoo (alternate)• 1:00
6 The List Begins (alternate)* :45
7 Cat Chase (alternate ending)• 2:13
8 Roof Top Encounters (original)• 4:49
9 Fall from Grace (alternate ending)• 4:17
10 The Lair, Part I :57
11 The Lair, Part II 4:51
12 Selina Transforms, Part I 1:12
13 Selina Transforms, Part II 4:15
14 Batman vs. The Circus 2:35
15 Cat Suite 5:43
16 A Shadow of Doubt (alternate)•/End Credits (alternate) 7:02

BONUS TRACK:
17 Super Freak* 3:23
Total Time Disc 4: 71:27
TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 139:35
* Previously Unreleased
• Contains Previously Unreleased Material

“Face To Face” Words and Music by Danny Elfman and Siouxsie and the Banshees
Published By Warner-Barham Music LLC/
Little Maestro Music BMI/Dreamhouse Music PRS.

“Superfreak”
Written by Rick James and Alonzo Miller
Orchestrated by Bruce Fowler
Publishing by Jobete Music Co., Inc./
Stone City Music/Stone Diamond Music Inc.

Beautiful packaging.

 

[Kane52630]

That's one sexy packaging.

 

[Two-Face]

Just a awesome poster.

 

[Young Superman]

Just a awesome poster.

Nice

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

That poster is proudly hung in my bedroom. Looks amazing.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Nah, Devito was perfect for this kind of Penguin. And he wouldn't have done it without that vision. Hoskins would have been more appropriate for Nolan.

I think he could have worked as the traditional Penguin. Even the Burton Penguin had some pretty eloquent speeches in between all the disgusting stuff.

 

[AnneFan]

The Burton Penguin is on another level of dark, but it's not completely on its own these days. The Arkham Penguin is on the rougher side as well, and I really enjoy that portrayal too. With BTAS and the 60s show combined, the character has had some fine portrayals over the years.

 

[Mace Dolex]

I've always wished for Burton comic continuation, I'm surprised it wasn't happened already.

If DC can do a continuation of Batman '66 I'd like to see them try a Burton Batman comic.

 

[Dave McFly]

I still have my Returns teaser poster that is just a extreme close up of the 'ears' on the bat insignia with a white background that simply states 'returns' on it.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Lately I've been rewatching the batsignal scene. Does anyone else just absolutely love that entire scene? Wayne Manor way out in a secluded spot, sitting alone, then to see Bruce Wayne, just sitting alone, deep in thought. It speaks volumes I think, the music also makes the scene 10x better. It just might be the best scene between both of Burton's movies. IMO

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Lately I've been rewatching the batsignal scene. Does anyone else just absolutely love that entire scene? Wayne Manor way out in a secluded spot, sitting alone, then to see Bruce Wayne, just sitting alone, deep in thought. It speaks volumes I think, the music also makes the scene 10x better. It just might be the best scene between both of Burton's movies. IMO

I do!t:

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Hey, Bruce, what are those big lights on your house for?

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

To keep the bats away.

 

[Indy Flash]

Lately I've been rewatching the batsignal scene. Does anyone else just absolutely love that entire scene? Wayne Manor way out in a secluded spot, sitting alone, then to see Bruce Wayne, just sitting alone, deep in thought. It speaks volumes I think, the music also makes the scene 10x better. It just might be the best scene between both of Burton's movies. IMO

I also think so.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Hey, Bruce, what are those big lights on your house for?

I've often considered those batsignal things at his house just reflectors of the batsignal in the sky.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Hey, Bruce, what are those big lights on your house for?

"I like to pretend I'm Batman."

 

[Mace Dolex]

Lately I've been rewatching the batsignal scene. Does anyone else just absolutely love that entire scene? Wayne Manor way out in a secluded spot, sitting alone, then to see Bruce Wayne, just sitting alone, deep in thought. It speaks volumes I think, the music also makes the scene 10x better. It just might be the best scene between both of Burton's movies. IMO

Yeah man I love that scene especially the low angle shot of Bruce rising from his chair looking all cool in his turtleneck sweater, sometimes I ask myself does Bruce sit in his den all day waiting for the Bat-signal? I mean what if he was in another part of the mansion where he couldn't see the signal? LOL!

 

[Naked Shia]

It's an amazing scene, but to me, the best scene of the burton's movies is the batmobile charging in the night, with Vicky at batman's side. It perfectly summarizes how this batman is a romantic figure of the night, not to mention how incredible the music is.

 

[Stu]

http://longlivethebat-universe.tumblr.com/post/104672343227/catwoman-by-cassidy-nelson:

 

[shauner111]

It's an amazing scene, but to me, the best scene of the burton's movies is the batmobile charging in the night, with Vicky at batman's side. It perfectly summarizes how this batman is a romantic figure of the night, not to mention how incredible the music is.

That might be the most iconic Batman scene for me.

 

[schereZada]

It's an amazing scene, but to me, the best scene of the burton's movies is the batmobile charging in the night, with Vicky at batman's side. It perfectly summarizes how this batman is a romantic figure of the night, not to mention how incredible the music is.

Morning, Naked Bat.

I agree. It's clear that Burton shaped his Batman after the Phantom of the Opera (the opera house here being Gotham City, I think). At first we see just a shadow and the rumors about him, then we slowly start learning more about him.

I compare the Batmobile and Batcave scene to the moment in which the Phantom takes Christine to his hideout. It is romantic, mystic, mysterious. Vicky gets that this "bat," this monster everyone talks about is something else. And she gets more obsessed about taking his mask and see what's behind.

Cheers.

 

[Naked Shia]

yeah, there is definitely something similar. I like how Burton made Batman a urban legend at first. It's amazing. He used the visuals to make something unique and unforgettable.

 

[Mister J]

I don't know if this has made the rounds already or is common knowledge, but it was new to me and I thought it'd be of interest.

The Badass Scene That Was Cut From Batman Returns

http://www.1989batman.com/2014/09/special-feature-batman-returns_26.html

Also, I watched this again on Netflix a week or two ago. Weird how excited I got about seeing it int eh catalog, given that I have the disc, but whatever. Such good visuals and motifs.

 

[WingedAvenger89]

Such a love / hate relationship with this film, it doesn't feel like a legitimate continuation of the previous story. No Dent, drastically different Gotham. Even the Batman character as written comes off very different. Should've kept Sam Hamm, and not Daniel Waters.

The hate:

Keaton's performance feels phoned in after proving everyone wrong in the OG.
Batman is uncharacteristically homicidal.
Penguins shooting rockets is stupid.
Devito is over the top hammy.
Black saliva is stupid.
Birdman from sewers is stupid.
Catwoman being a cat licked zombie is stupid.
Gotham being an indoor Walmart set is stupid.
Changing Anton Furst's Gotham into Burton's Fairy Tale Gotham is stupid.
A costume vault full of the same suit, clearly rubber this time on hangers is stupid.
The cheest lines of dialogue, and forced sexual humor.

The love:

The bat wing glider.
Pfieffer delivers a top 5 performance in the series.
Pfieffer's Catwoman gave me my first chubby. So sexy.
Christmas time atmosphere is rich, and haunting.
Catwoman's S&M costume.
Chemistry between Keaton and Pfieffer.
Christopher Walken's Max Shreck. Vile.
Penguin being a Mad Hatter esque child killer. Scary.
The viciousness of Batman's fights.