The Official Choose A Director Thread

[Angeloz]

WTF are pop culture refrences for these days?!

Mean Girls... anyone?

Just because it was a bad pcr doesn't mean it wasn't one.

Seriously does no one remeber that line other than me?

I've never watched the film. So that's why I don't know it (I was an adult when it came out so not into Lindsey Lohan).

Angeloz

 

[jaymes_e06]

Oh okay I was just teasing anyway I just watched it recently (vintage Lohan was just the bees knees but now... ) Yeah it's a cool flick if not a guilty pleasure I recomend watching.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't think that it's surprising when people don't like a movie I did...at least I don't think that anymore.

So Angel didn't think highly of Star Trek, I say so what? It's her opinion and it's not shocking at all as not everyone digs every movie that everyone else digs.

I didn't think highly of Superman Returns, the X-men movies, Wolverine, HellBoy 2 or Hulk, I'm not saying that to be different or bad ass, I'm saying that because it's my honest opinion. I reckon she is being harsh about Trek because thats what she feels...thats why I'm so hard on Superman Returns.

You know, obviously you can infer that I disagree with her. I'd be jumping for joy if the next Superman movie was as good as Star Trek and I didn't love Star Trek as much as some other folk on here. I'd even feel a mildly pleasant feeling if the next Superman movie was as entertaining as the first Fantastic Four movie and despite me liking the flick I know that it isn't special at all.

P.S

No the X-flicks don't really belong on that crap list but they are so overrated that I put them on there. I was fixin to put Batman Begins on there too but then I remembered that despite the ridiculous unwarranted praise that it gets that it's still a pretty good movie until the terrible 3rd act.

 

[Adenjo]

Let Michael Bay it.

Superman on steroids.. Doing overblown rescues on an overblown scale.. More explosions than you can shake a stick at.. lots of slow motion cape flapping/flag waving... And a crap load of assess on seats.

 

[Angeloz]

I don't think that it's surprising when people don't like a movie I did...at least I don't think that anymore.

So Angel didn't think highly of Star Trek, I say so what? It's her opinion and it's not shocking at all as not everyone digs every movie that everyone else digs.

I didn't think highly of Superman Returns, the X-men movies, Wolverine, HellBoy 2 or Hulk, I'm not saying that to be different or bad ass, I'm saying that because it's my honest opinion. I reckon she is being harsh about Trek because thats what she feels...thats why I'm so hard on Superman Returns.

You know, obviously you can infer that I disagree with her. I'd be jumping for joy if the next Superman movie was as good as Star Trek and I didn't love Star Trek as much as some other folk on here. I'd even feel a mildly pleasant feeling if the next Superman movie was as entertaining as the first Fantastic Four movie and despite me liking the flick I know that it isn't special at all.

P.S

No the X-flicks don't really belong on that crap list but they are so overrated that I put them on there. I was fixin to put Batman Begins on there too but then I remembered that despite the ridiculous unwarranted praise that it gets that it's still a pretty good movie until the terrible 3rd act.

Thank you for my defence. I'll admit I disagree with you on many things but I've generally liked you because of the way you post around here. I guess I was lucky not to be involved with forums of most kinds (except Angel & BTVS ones) to not have my opinion of the X-Men films ruined. I could enjoy them in peace.

By the way I'd be strongly not wanting the next Superman film be like "Star Trek" (2009). I wouldn't object to the tone being similar (i.e. light). Just not the storytelling (moronic). And can they please not have crap music either. I think that had to be my least liked film score. Although I haven't watched some of the later films more than once or twice. That said I don't remember not liking the music even if it's been awhile.

Angeloz

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No prob Angeloz.

I liked the Star Trek music well enough, it wasn't Michael Giacchino's best work but it was far from bad IMHO.

And clearly the story was the worst part of Star Trek but I still thought that the movie worked extremely well because of the director and actors. Again I think you have a point when it comes to Star Trek concerning it's storytelling but it didn't ruin the movie for me.

I'm trying to get over the fact that you can see the dumb parts of Star Trek's storyline and not Superman Returns... but thats just us not agreeing on the movies again...no big deal. lol

 

[Angeloz]

No prob Angeloz.

I liked the Star Trek music well enough, it wasn't Michael Giacchino's best work but it was far from bad IMHO.

And clearly the story was the worst part of Star Trek but I still thought that the movie worked extremely well because of the director and actors. Again I think you have a point when it comes to Star Trek concerning it's storytelling but it didn't ruin the movie for me.

I'm trying to get over the fact that you can see the dumb parts of Star Trek's storyline and not Superman Returns... but thats just us not agreeing on the movies again...no big deal. lol

I do understand the criticisms about "Superman Returns" but like you with "Star Trek" it didn't worry me. Maybe because I don't mind different versions of Superman being out there. Details may change which you may like or not. I just happened to like that one. As I've liked many versions of his story.

The reason why I dislike "Star Trek" boils down to it wasn't what I wanted. I might have been won over however. I was hoping it might. It didn't. What I wanted was a Trek set in the future with new characters. Have an old character introduce them (I wouldn't mind that). But no - they instead - stuck it in the past with new crappier versions of the old characters. Not something that will win me over. And to be technical the time travel story was explained wrong. But that's technical (unless there was something not mentioned in the film which was elsewhere as I never looked it up). If I allowed myself to care then I'd really hate what they did to Vulcan. But I choose not to care.

Angeloz

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I do understand the criticisms about "Superman Returns" but like you with "Star Trek" it didn't worry me. Maybe because I don't mind different versions of Superman being out there. Details may change which you may like or not. I just happened to like that one. As I've liked many versions of his story.

The reason why I dislike "Star Trek" boils down to it wasn't what I wanted. I might have been won over however. I was hoping it might. It didn't. What I wanted was a Trek set in the future with new characters. Have an old character introduce them (I wouldn't mind that). But no - they instead - stuck it in the past with new crappier versions of the old characters. Not something that will win me over. And to be technical the time travel story was explained wrong. But that's technical (unless there was something not mentioned in the film which was elsewhere as I never looked it up). If I allowed myself to care then I'd really hate what they did to Vulcan. But I choose not to care.

Angeloz

I don't mind different versions of stories either, I just plain don't care for the Richard Donner version of Superman, thus it was inevitable that I wouldn't care for Superman Returns.

If you change a few details and replace "Star Trek" with "Superman Returns" you just pretty much explained why I didn't like the flick.

I think we are kinda reaching an understanding here.

To sum things up:

Regarding Star Trek, you didn't like the portrayal of the characters, disliked storyline and you wanted something brand new.

Regarding Superman Returns, I didn't like the portrayal of the characters, disliked the storyline and wanted something brand new.

I think we've reached some kind of understanding.

 

[Angeloz]

I don't mind different versions of stories either, I just plain don't care for the Richard Donner version of Superman, thus it was inevitable that I wouldn't care for Superman Returns.

If you change a few details and replace "Star Trek" with "Superman Returns" you just pretty much explained why I didn't like the flick.

I think we are kinda reaching an understanding here.

To sum things up:

Regarding Star Trek, you didn't like the portrayal of the characters, disliked storyline and you wanted something brand new.

Regarding Superman Returns, I didn't like the portrayal of the characters, disliked the storyline and wanted something brand new.

I think we've reached some kind of understanding.

True except I think "Star Trek" was an even crappier version of the characters. I mean they make the so called (super) genius characters idiots. That can't tell the difference between alternate and altered reality. At least Krypton was destroyed but I didn't know Vulcan was Krypton. Never mind just bad memories. Sorry it pushes my buttons.

Angeloz

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Did you forget my constant posts in which I called Superman an idiot for being surprised that Lois was mad at him for vanishing for 5 years and him not guessing that the 5 year old kid could be his son seeing as how he had sex with her around that time period? Did you forget my constant b**ching about Superman visiting a planet that he knew blew up for reasons that the movie didn't explain because apparently they cut out the explaination but even the cut out explaination sounds stupid to me.

Or Lois foolishly taking her son on a mysterious boat? She'll win mother of the year.

F**k it, now I'm letting out my anger...again. lol

 

[Scarlet Spider]

At least Krypton was destroyed but I didn't know Vulcan was Krypton.

What's really funny and ironic is that Abrams blew up Vulcan but when he was writing Superman, he left Krypton intact.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Star Trek is Star Wars with Star Trek characters. I know that and I still liked it, so either the movie worked for you or it didn't.

 

[Angeloz]

Did you forget my constant posts in which I called Superman an idiot for being surprised that Lois was mad at him for vanishing for 5 years and him not guessing that the 5 year old kid could be his son seeing as how he had sex with her around that time period? Did you forget my constant b**ching about Superman visiting a planet that he knew blew up for reasons that the movie didn't explain because apparently they cut out the explaination but even the cut out explaination sounds stupid to me.

Or Lois foolishly taking her son on a mysterious boat? She'll win mother of the year.

F**k it, now I'm letting out my anger...again. lol

I can live with him being not perfect. But I can and do understand why you might not. By the way Lois always ends up doing stupid stuff. But vent away.

What's really funny and ironic is that Abrams blew up Vulcan but when he was writing Superman, he left Krypton intact.

I know.

Star Trek is Star Wars with Star Trek characters. I know that and I still liked it, so either the movie worked for you or it didn't.

It depends I think "Star Trek" might have better direction (at least compared to the Prequels) and actors (although I think it was the bad direction that was the problem with the Prequels). But writing was variable on both (the Prequels had bad dialogue and "Star Trek" a dumb story and plot). That said I liked what Star Wars was meant to be about. Not so much with the other one.

Angeloz

 

[JAK®]

I don't see what was so dumb about Star Trek's plot. It was simple and that's why it worked.

 

[Lightning54SC]

Speilberg would be great if he can follow the Birthright story line correct then im all for it, JUST NO SINGER!

 

[Octoberist]

Speilberg during his Amblin years would have been magical. I don't know that the modern day Speilberg could be as good.

 

[GreenKToo]

Spielberg would be good, but if I could have my wish, it'd be Jackson directing, spielberg producing, and shore doing the score. And this would be my wish cast.

Superman/ Clark Kent: Michael Trucco, Routh, or an unknown.

Lois Lane: Zooey Deschanel

Lex Luthor: Daniel Day-Lewis.

Morgan Edge: Powers Booth

Perry White: Ian McShane.

Jimmy Olsen: Shia Labeouf

Brainiac: Hugo Weaving. ( small role in the first film, much bigger role in the sequel)

Metallo: Thomas Jane

Jor-el: Jim Caviezel

Lara: Carrie-Ann Moss

Jonathan Kent: Dennis Quaid

Martha Kent: Genna Davis.

 

[Webhead2006]

Just to jump into the trek talk for a min myself. Overall i enjoyed the film alot, yes i didnt care much for some of the actors in the roles. But i think they did pretty well. The look was bright and fun same as the tone, which i would like to see in next supes film myself. Story i thought was interesting and to me i clearly told me that with spock/nero going into the past they caused an alternate time line/universe to form and the 2009 film takes place their were as the original trek timeline/universe is still out their and could easily be revisted any time a writer/studio wants too.

 

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