The Official Choose A Director Thread

[dark_b]

I think its really going to depend on how much control Nolan has because I don't see many directors wanting to work under those conditions. Vaughan walked out on 2 superhero projects because of creative issues I'm sure, would he take on superman knowing that WB and nolan/goyer team will have a large say in what happens?

Right now its kinda why the Jonah Nolan directing really makes the most sense and seems like it may be more then just a rumour. He hasn't directed anything so he wont have much of a say. Is it a risk? sure, but if you surround him with and exceptional team it may actually work out. We should be hearing something soon though about the director since that seems like the next logical step if there working on a script as we speak.

so almost everyone can direct a superman movie with a good team?


hallelujah t:

 

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed. It's stupid. I don't care how good of a writer Jonah is, to make his first film an over $100 million dollar comic book film is something a studio wouldn't do. Studios may be greedy, but they usually know how to hire for their movies. A first time director should be doing a $10 million dollar film not a $140 million dollar film.

Yeah, with the right creative team behind it, I could freaking make a Superman film. Everything comes from the director. He should have the experience. Jonah has none except writing.

Goyer wrote BB and co conceived the story for TDK, he hasn't directed anything just as big.

 

[GreenKToo]

If you have been following what showtime and jamie have been saying, they have said from the start that they have been *hearing* that WB wants a director that they can control for the reboot. Meaning, no big name with an ego.

Now that doesn't mean it will be Jonah of course, but it doesn't rule him out either. Personally, I dont want him, i'd prefer vaughn.

Things can and do turn on a dime in hollywood. It could very well be a huge named director when all the smoke clears, or we could end up with no film at all. so who knows. I sure as he11 don't.

EDIT: Let me add, This is Chris Nolan's baby. WB knew what they were getting into when the asked him to oversee it. So you can bet that it doesn't really matter who directs it, Nolan will have final say so. WB wouldnt have asked him to Godfather it otherwise..all MHO.

 

[kalelkilla]

Let's sign Jonah Nolan and get going already. He's got enough experience. There is no way Chris Nolan is going to produce a crappy movie. He won't let it happen. Director by collaboration. The actors might hate it but this movie is way too important for Chris Nolan not to have a heavy hand in every aspect.

 

[dark_b]

If you have been following what showtime and jamie have been saying, they have said from the start that they have been *hearing* that WB wants a director that they can control for the reboot. Meaning, no big name with an ego.

Now that doesn't mean it will be Jonah of course, but it doesn't rule him out either. Personally, I dont want him, i'd prefer vaughn.

Things can and do turn on a dime in hollywood. It could very well be a huge named director when all the smoke clears, or we could end up with no film at all. so who knows. I sure as he11 don't.

EDIT: Let me add, This is Chris Nolan's baby. WB knew what they were getting into when the asked him to oversee it. So you can bet that it doesn't really matter who directs it, Nolan will have final say so. WB wouldnt have asked him to Godfather it otherwise..all MHO.

then they deserve that the movie bombs.

 

[GreenKToo]

I wouldn't think it would bomb, but you never know. Personally, I think Nolan is too smart to let that happen. I bet he'll get lots of CB witers to consult on how it should look and feel.
But your right, this isnt Batman. What worked with him won't work with Superman. There is a night and day difference between the two characters.
Still, I think he knows that.

 

[dark_b]

I wouldn't think it would bomb, but you never know. Personally, I think Nolan is too smart to let that happen. I bet he'll get lots of CB witers to consult on how it should look and feel.
But your right, this isnt Batman. What worked with him won't work with Superman. There is a night and day difference between the two characters.
Still, I think he knows that.

there is a specific formula how to make a movie for the masses. but fact is that you never know if a movie wil be popular and accepted by the masses .

if Nolan was a mastermind and would know the secret(Cameron obvious knows how to make money......yes i went there) then Batman Begins would make star trek money and Prestige would make 200 millions domestic.

you see where i am going? i am a huge Nolan fan. i am a fan of him as a director. but i dont think that because TDK made money that because of that Nolan is now an expert for money makers. and a lot of people think like that. its normal. its the internet.

i also dont think that he is now an expert for everything. and again this is what some people here are trying to say.


in my honest opinion it doesnt matter how many comic consults you have. you can get from DC all the importnt comics and read them.

what can a comic writter tell me that i can not find in the comics or on the internet? how to writte a superman script? no thank you. i woud rather have a good movie writter .

 

[Anita18]

EDIT: Let me add, This is Chris Nolan's baby. WB knew what they were getting into when the asked him to oversee it. So you can bet that it doesn't really matter who directs it, Nolan will have final say so. WB wouldnt have asked him to Godfather it otherwise..all MHO.

Hearing from someone who's worked under Chris Nolan, he indeed "runs a tight ship." But he isn't James Cameron, who only has a crew because he physically can't be everywhere at once when the camera is rolling.

Nolan realizes he doesn't have all the answers, nor the methods, which is why he's good at pushing other people to apply their own creativity. That's why he always has the same tight-knit group he works with. It isn't a one-man show.

Considering that, I don't think he'll be a micromanager. He'll provide feedback and a direction, but I don't think he'll be there on set every day demanding what he wants to see.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea i agree as good as jonah is as a writer which i love his work i have seen. for superman and where he is presently with all the legal troubles and the lack of a solid modern film series it would be smarter move to get someone with at least 2-3 films under their belt and at least some knowledge on action/scifi/cgi type of films. So they wouldnt really be learning it on the job and taking far to long to get things going. Though i can see like others have said why it could go to jonah and if it ultimately does i hope he can deliever a great superman film for us fans and to the studio's liking.

 

[solidsnake86]

On batman on film they have an article speaking with Wally Pfister about 3d for batman 3. In it he mentions Brad Bird telling him that they should shoot the third one completely in Imax. Obviously this is really reaching but isn't brad bird directing mission impossible 4 or in negotiations, I know people have mentioned him before but were concerned about him just doing animated features. From the sounds of it we should be hearing something more or less around July.

 

[cerealkiller182]

IMAX and 3D are different. Pfister said he might do IMAX but not 3D. He said the important thing is they want to film on celluloid which makes each much more difficult IIRC

 

[GreenKToo]

All these 3D films are giving me a headache. Oh well, I guess I better buy plenty of aspirin.

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

On batman on film they have an article speaking with Wally Pfister about 3d for batman 3. In it he mentions Brad Bird telling him that they should shoot the third one completely in Imax. Obviously this is really reaching but isn't brad bird directing mission impossible 4 or in negotiations, I know people have mentioned him before but were concerned about him just doing animated features. From the sounds of it we should be hearing something more or less around July.

I wouldn't be surprised if Brad Bird ends up directing the MOS. He directed the Incredibles, which has the upbeat tone that fits Superman even though its a comedy. I think he'd be a pretty good choice.

 

[solidsnake86]

IMAX and 3D are different. Pfister said he might do IMAX but not 3D. He said the important thing is they want to film on celluloid which makes each much more difficult IIRC

Thanks but I know the difference between IMAX and 3d and I'm pretty sure I said they were talking about 3d but bird had said they should shoot in IMAX, sorry I must not have made it clear.

 

[Infinity9999x]

there is a specific formula how to make a movie for the masses. but fact is that you never know if a movie wil be popular and accepted by the masses .

if Nolan was a mastermind and would know the secret(Cameron obvious knows how to make money......yes i went there) then Batman Begins would make star trek money and Prestige would make 200 millions domestic.

There's a flaw in that logic. To begin with, BB was still under the heavy stigma from Batman and Robin. Heck, people were still calling it a sequel, so that definitely didn't help.

And Prestige was a very niche movie with a complicated plot. Yeah, Cameron knows how to make the big bucks, but look at the kind of movies he makes. Terminator 1 and 2, ALIENS, Avatar. All big blockbuster movies, heavy on SFX, which usually make money. Heck Transformers made bank and it was essentially the same formula, just not as well written as the aforementioned movies.

The only thing that broke the mold was Titanic, and even then, it had tons of hype surrounding the "ground breaking" SPX with the ship sinking.

Nolan doesn't make as much because the style of movies he picks aren't naturally suited to being big money makers. Memento was never going to make huge BO. Neither was Prestige. Inception probably won't be a huge money maker either. The Batman movies were the only summer blockbuster style movies he attempted, and as I've said, BB had a lot going against it.

 

[Crook]

While dramas/thrillers lend themselves to small audiences, it's very possible for it to hit a mark on audiences, even in the modern age. Sixth Sense being a prime example. It did nearly 700 million worldwide...over 10 years ago. Imagine how much dough that is today.

 

[Webhead2006]

man it would be sweet to see batman or even superman specifically shot fully on imax cameras. As for bird when he name been mentioned before i wouldnt mind him being given a shot at supes or at least another live action superhero project.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Superman in IMAX? Hell yes. I'm sure Nolan will continue shooting in IMAX on Batman 3. I can't wait to see what else they have in store.

 

[kalelkilla]

There is no doubt that the next Superman movie is going to be in 3D and IMAX. We're trying to beat AVATAR here people. Think Big. This is SUPERMAN!

 

[Webhead2006]

well who knows if superman isnt coming out to 2012/2013 maybe wb would change their minds on 3d releases or what not. But yea as of right now its more then likely going to be released in 3d(be it shot in 3d or post 3d). As for imax as i said in my above post man it would be sweet to see either batman/superman be shot full on imax film.

 

[Daybreak_st]

what can a comic writter tell me that i can not find in the comics or on the internet? how to writte a superman script? no thank you. i woud rather have a good movie writter .

You make some valid points. I agree that ultimately you need a solid script, with well thought out characters, solid/interesting dialogue along with all the big blockbuster stuff.

However i'll say this. BB broke new ground for me, b/c for the first time one film helped the uninitated to finally "get" batman. People who didn't watch the animated series or read the comics or really had no other familiarity with the character other than the campy 60s show and the movies from 89-97. For me that was quite an accomplishment. It's obvious that the writer, goyer and nolan, "got" batman. They understoon his psyche, his motivations, they were able to pull all of that into a fully formed 3diminsional character that could be introduced to audience who until now had never "gotten" the character.

That's a deeper understanding than reading a few comics or watching a few movies and thinking "oh, i totally know this character and can make a great movie" see that's what happened with Singer. He thought he knew Superman oh so well from his familiarity with one version of the character from the Reeve's films, and even that knoweledge was spotty.

If you can get someone who really knows the character of superman/clark kent on board, then that's an asset that shouldn't be looked down on. And not any hollywood movie writer is gonna have a nice understanding of the character that would translate well for movie audiences. Heck a lot of people think the character is old, tired, lame, etc. I really don't want those guys trying to re-introduce the character for a modern audience. But if someone who really "gets" the character can take that knowledge and translate it into a solid 2hr film that GA will get excited about, and leave cheering for superman rather than complaining about how lame he is, then that would be box office gold.

 

[GreenKToo]

Nevermind Avatar, I just hope it beats what SR made. Moneywise AND otherwise.

 

[Alonsovich]

Cameron made money with liquid metal in T2, a goddamn ship sinking effect and some 3D blue cartoons... please come back to me the day he makes money with a strong script, performances and story like Nolan did with TDK.

PS: Michael Bay also makes a lot of money with SFX... let's hire him!

 

[Daybreak_st]

Zoe Saldana had one heck of a performance in Avatar. She made a smurf come across as real. That's pretty impressive to say the least.

 

[sf2]

Edward Zwick!!!