The Official DC Stupid Question Thread....

[X]

Originally posted by Ahura Mazda I have a few questions regarding Superman:

1. Regarding his trip to Earth - how fast did his ship go because if he got here as a baby it would have had to travel faster than the speed of light

Well, it was going pretty fast to begin with, and when Krypton exploded it got propelled even faster. Maybe it was going warp light speed or something/

2. I have heard of different incarnations such as Superman Prime and Superman 1,000,000. These characters seem to be extremely powerful. Were they or are they used at all?

Both characters were used for a bit, yes.

3. Why does Superman seem almost weak in the JLA in the sense that he seems to get knocked down quite a bit?

Well, he does go up against some insanly bad ass beings, and he's usually in the forefront of things.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Thankyou Mr. X once again!!

 

[X]

No problem.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Superman's not exactly a pushover in JLA. In the cartoon, it's a different story; he does get his ass kicked often in the cartoon. But in the comics he's as powerful as he is by himself. He's wrestled a freakin' angel, taken on Darkseid, and done a ton of other crazy stuff.

 

[Guyverjay]

You mean asmodel??

He was electric blue when that happened

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, which kind of confused me. Still, it's a status thing. He moved the moon with his electric powers, too.

 

[Guyverjay]

Not entirely true there were those Big ass engines there as well if I remember correctly.

Blue supes was more powerful anyway. J'onn got ass kicked by asmodel.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

How strong was Electric Supes? I thought he was physically weaker than his regular incarnation.

Yeah, he powered the engines by himself. That's pretty impressive, to be able to wield enough energy to power 2 engines that can move the entire moon?

 

[Guyverjay]

Not as impressive as actually pushing it himself.

I'm not sure how strong he was but he sure seems to be able to keep up with asmodel while J'onn (who isn't exactly far behind normal supes in terms of physical prowess) got swatted awy quite easily.

Plus using strange visitors power in OWAW supes was able to attack imperiex head on.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, everything's relative, I guess. J'onn kicked the whole JLA's ass later as Fernus.

 

[Guyverjay]

Yeah but he has the advantage of not having to hold back

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I doubt Superman or Asmodel were holding back when they fought each other. Besides the fact that Asmodel has invulnerability on par with Superman's, Superman knows that angels are pretty much immortal, so I doubt he'd have been scared of killing Asmodel. I gotta reread that issue, actually. That was a good arc.

 

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Superman's not exactly a pushover in JLA. In the cartoon, it's a different story; he does get his ass kicked often in the cartoon. But in the comics he's as powerful as he is by himself. He's wrestled a freakin' angel, taken on Darkseid, and done a ton of other crazy stuff.

Bah, Darkseid's been watered down over the years. He's knocked out Superman before with extentsions of his power. Bleh.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Superman's also gone pretty high up in power since the Crisis.

 

[The Leaguer]

As far as J'onn getting owned by Asmodel, wasn't he weakened due to exposure to fire? I'm not sure on that, I'll have to re-read it, also. It was a damn good story.

 

[X]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Superman's also gone pretty high up in power since the Crisis.

Yup. They should of stucken around his 86' relaunch strength. They just keep pushing and pushing...

 

[Dark_Spectre]

Can someone please tell me the details of how superman came back to life after Doomsday killed him? I've been trying to find out and I can't find a straight answer anywhere and I can't find the issue where it happened.

 

[Darthphere]

Really good question here I know vaguely but I rather just let someone more knowledgeable answer it.

 

[The Leaguer]

All these arguments about Batman being the best fighter in the DCU got me wondering: who is the best fighter in the DCU? And I mean non-powered, so, no, Deathstroke doesn't count. I know Richard Dragon, Batman, Batgirl and Shiva would be at the top of the list, but what about others like Connor Hawke, David Cain, Green Arrow and Nightwing?

 

[X]

Probably Richard Dragon. He did train The Question, who's one of the top fighters in the DCU, and he's had Batman at his mercy.

 

[The Leaguer]

Have the aftereffects of any of the many DC/Marvel crossovers been explored? Were any of the considered continuity in either universe? I've never read a crossover that had any effects on the DCU. For example, I've never seen Superman make any references to "that guy with the sheild and wings on his head" or Batman mention "that big green guy who trashed my batcave." I do remember reading that, following the DC vs. Marvel mini, one character from each universe was going to be left in the other universe (which I think was a very cool idea) but the idea was nixed. As far as I know, thats the closest either universe has come to dealing with a crossover after the crossover is complete.

 

[Dark_Spectre]

Please could someone answer my question this is something I really need to know.

 

[The Leaguer]

From what I understand, the Eradicator brought Superman back via a Rebirthing Matrix that was in the Fortress of Solitude. Either it was a one-time-use sort of thing, or it was destroyed upon Superman's reemergence, but I'm pretty sure a reason was given why it couldn't be used again to revive other fallen heroes, or even Superman himself. This is just what I think happened, I'm not sure on the details, nor am I sure what I just said is correct.

 

[Azrael24]

Dark Spectre,

Superman's body was recovered by his robot assistant, Eradicator, and moved to the fortress of solitude where it had access to advanced medical technology. Although Superman's mind was gone, he was still absorbing solar radiation. Jonathan Kent, Superman's "father" had a heart attack at the funeral and experienced a near-death experience. He met Superman's spirit, which was in a limbo between life and death, and convinced him to return to his body. This brought Superman back to life.

The Leaguer,

The best fighter, that's up for debate even among DC execs. Some say it's Shiva, but that can't be, I've seen Batman beat her @$$. Some say it's Richard Dragon, he is known as the BEST martial artist, not fighter..there is a difference. But the whole Batman vs. RD thing happened pre-crisis I beileve (correct if I am wrong) and can't really be considered currently. GA, CH, Nightwing, all good but not the top dog. If I had to put money on it, it would be a tossup between Batman, Richard Dragon, Shiva, and Batgirl. I just can't give it to RD that easy.

TheCorpulent1 ,

I agree, I've always thought that they needed to tone down Supes (even though he's my fav). It's really not fair to be that strong and almost as fast as Flash. He should never lose.

Supes in the JL cartoon is a punk. I really don't like him, he feels like a big bully who can't fight.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Richard Dragon, before the revamp of his current series, would get my vote as the best fighter. He trained Lady Shiva, whom I'd rank as #3. My list would be:

Richard Dragon (pre-revamp)
Cassandra Cain (Batgirl)
Lady Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Batman

After that, there are a bunch of characters who are in kind of a nebulous category of being really good but not quite up there with the best. People like Green Arrow II (Connor Hawke), Black Canary, Nightwing, Wildcat, etc.

Personally, I think Superman's power level was fine where it was just after his rebirth. He was considerably more powerful than the '86 relaunch (which I always felt was kind of low for the world's premiere hero) but not ridiculously powerful like he is sometimes portrayed now. If it were up to me, I'd give him a near-light flight speed and slow his reflexes down to just really, really fast, like around Spider-Man's. It'd be basically the same as if a normal person were driving a car at like 250 mph. That would keep him from being pretty much unstoppable and allow the Flash to keep his shtick.