The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread. - Part 8

[BigThor]

Hulk being a scrapper, nah he should be what he's always been which is a bruiser.

 

[cloverfan98]

So does Lou voice the Hulk in Avengers? And have Marvel come to their senses and said they will make another solo Hulk film?

 

[BigThor]

So does Lou voice the Hulk in Avengers? And have Marvel come to their senses and said they will make another solo Hulk film?

Nah Marvel Ruffalo voices Hulk in The Avengers and yes Marvel has finally come to their senses concerning another solo Hulk film.

 

[jacobed]

Unfortunately Ruffalo voices him. His line does not sound good at all although I like his scream.

 

[Boom]

After hearing the rave reviews for Ruffalo and The Hulk in this movie, can we just get Whedon to write and direct the next Hulk film? Please?

 

[BigThor]

After hearing the rave reviews for Ruffalo and The Hulk in this movie, can we just get Whedon to write and direct the next Hulk film? Please?

^ Agreed

 

[BrollySupersj]

After hearing the rave reviews for Ruffalo and The Hulk in this movie, can we just get Whedon to write and direct the next Hulk film? Please?

Kevin Feige forbids it.

 

[Boom]

Whedon clearly gets the character. And again, considering how many people have singled out The Hulk/Ruffalo as one of the movie's shining aspects (some going so far as to say he steals the movie), then Whedon should be on the short list by default.

And Kevin Feige can kiss my ass .

 

[jacobed]

I don't blame him for seriously hesitating it. He may be getting universal praise from this movie but history tells the Hulk does not do well in his solo adventures.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Marvel has every right to be a bit gunshy about a new Hulk film. The last two didn't do that great. With how The Hulk was portrayed in The Avengers I have high hopes for the franchise. Although, to be entirely honest, part of what I loved about the Hulk in TA was the amount of smashing he does. He as all these pesky aliens to absolutely annihilate. I haven't really seen him get a chance to do that in his solo films. He fought a few army members, but there was no carnage. He fought Abomination which was just ok. In the first Hulk he fights off some jacked up dogs. Not really the carnage and smashing we get to see in TA. Thats part of what made the Hulk so ****ing cool in that movie. He really got to spread his wings and break some stuff.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Marvel has every right to be a bit gunshy about a new Hulk film. The last two didn't do that great. With how The Hulk was portrayed in The Avengers I have high hopes for the franchise. Although, to be entirely honest, part of what I loved about the Hulk in TA was the amount of smashing he does. He as all these pesky aliens to absolutely annihilate. I haven't really seen him get a chance to do that in his solo films. He fought a few army members, but there was no carnage. He fought Abomination which was just ok. In the first Hulk he fights off some jacked up dogs. Not really the carnage and smashing we get to see in TA. Thats part of what made the Hulk so ****ing cool in that movie. He really got to spread his wings and break some stuff.

Agreed.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Personally I loved Ruffalo's Hulk voice, it was deep and altered enough that he still sounded monstrous, yet retained enough of Mark's usual voice that you got the sense that this man was still in there somewhere inside.
Also made him sound smarter.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Finished my movie Hulk model.

You can print it out and make it yourself if you want at mypaperheroes.blogspot.com

 

[JAK®]

I really didn't like Hulk's voice. I much prefer Lou Ferrigno's voice.

 

[Mjölnir]

I don't think The Avengers is necessarily a clear indication of how Hulk would be in another solo film. I think Ruffalo and Norton were equals as Banner. They had different strengths, deriving from being at different stages in character development. The biggest difference was Hulk, although it seems unlikely that he'll have as much to smash in a solo film since it's most likely taking place on Earth and the threat should of course be smaller than something for The Avengers.

I'm really interested in how they will solve drama in a new Hulk solo film so I hope it does get made. I don't think Whedon has to do it though as I'm sure there are plenty of people able to write the character. Even if it's a fine balance there are less variables than for some other characters. I think it's best if Whedon doesn't burn himself out on Marvel (he kept talking about how exhausting TA had been) and sticks to The Avengers.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

After hearing the rave reviews for Ruffalo and The Hulk in this movie, can we just get Whedon to write and direct the next Hulk film? Please?

Couldnt agree more, I loved Joss before this because of Firefly and Serenity but after TA and especially the way he presented the Hulk/Banner he is my number 1 pick for another solo Hulk movie. Only thing is they will probably want him for Avengers 2 in 2015, so god knows when he would get the time.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I do think Whedon + Ruffalo nailed it with the Hulk in Avengers... BUT a large amount of this was based on how he fit with others and his interaction with them. He seemed like the kind of guy that genuinely enjoyed being around other people and getting to know them... despite his problems being around other people.

He worked very well as part of the team and with the others.. which has always been Whedons strength, but I don't know as a character and in the way he was handled, if he would be as interesting or you could really get a good idea of him if he was in a film on his own.

Don't get me wrong.. I do LOVE hulk and really love the second hulk film and would love to see another hulk film, I just thing that the Avengers Hulk worked so well because of his interactions with all of the team mates, and not despite it.

 

[Roose Bolton]

The likelihood of Whedon directing a Hulk film is,ahem, unlikely. Yet they'd be very stupid not to atleast get him involved with the screenplay (Whedon is afterall a writer) hell maybe even bring him on board as a producer, and then have that vision brought to life by someone else, considering that Ari Arad ( who was the one to bring in that hack Leterrier ) has moved on, I have faith on who Marvel/Fiege would bring into the fold.

 

[Fifthchild]

I don't blame him for seriously hesitating it. He may be getting universal praise from this movie but history tells the Hulk does not do well in his solo adventures.

History isn't really the problem. Hulks big baggage was a first movie that was too heavyhanded on the psychodrama while also lacking in the plot department and a second movie that in trying to be everything the first one was not ended up being too lightweight to win many people over. If US audiences also react well to him then it does a lot to redeem his commercial prospects.

However I still think there are real obstacles to a solo film. The Avengers didnt really move things along very far in terms of giving Hulk the fuly fledged personality as he has in the comics and AEMH cartoon. Thats probably something the public has to adjust to in order for the Hulk to have real longevity. And i'm not sure that any of the bad tempered intelligent Hulks really sit well with this new "aspirational", "heroic" path that Marvel seems keen on.

Hulk also lacks in the supporting cast and rogues gallery stakes. Most of the people you would probably use - Ross and Betty - are already strongly associated with the earlier "failed" films. His classic villains are a bit lame. The Leader could be good but the earlier effort with Tim Blake Nelson was just awful. Obviously this wasnt a problem in The Avengers because the other heroes acted as both supporting cast and antagonists.

Aditionally The Avengers probably limits in some ways what Hulk stories you can tell now that he has some pretty powerful friends in "the establishment". None of this says they cant do a Hulk film or that it wouldnt be really good. It just means that someone has to be clever to make a good one.

 

[Fifthchild]

The likelihood of Whedon directing a Hulk film is,ahem, unlikely. Yet they'd be very stupid not to atleast get him involved with the screenplay (Whedon is afterall a writer) hell maybe even bring him on board as a producer, and then have that vision brought to life by someone else, considering that Ari Arad ( who was the one to bring in that hack Leterrier ) has moved on, I have faith on who Marvel/Fiege would bring into the fold.

Yeah Whedons not going to take on another Hulk movie between now and Avengers and all the other stuff he has planned. His plate runneth over. The best role for him would be in a Producer/story capacity to try and help them find the right take and veto any truly awful ideas.

 

[Gamma Burst]

History isn't really the problem. Hulks big baggage was a first movie that was too heavyhanded on the psychodrama while also lacking in the plot department and a second movie that in trying to be everything the first one was not ended up being too lightweight to win many people over. If US audiences also react well to him then it does a lot to redeem his commercial prospects.

However I still think there are real obstacles to a solo film. The Avengers didnt really move things along very far in terms of giving Hulk the fuly fledged personality as he has in the comics and AEMH cartoon. Thats probably something the public has to adjust to in order for the Hulk to have real longevity. And i'm not sure that any of the bad tempered intelligent Hulks really sit well with this new "aspirational", "heroic" path that Marvel seems keen on.

Hulk also lacks in the supporting cast and rogues gallery stakes. Most of the people you would probably use - Ross and Betty - are already strongly associated with the earlier "failed" films. His classic villains are a bit lame. The Leader could be good but the earlier effort with Tim Blake Nelson was just awful. Obviously this wasnt a problem in The Avengers because the other heroes acted as both supporting cast and antagonists.

Aditionally The Avengers probably limits in some ways what Hulk stories you can tell now that he has some pretty powerful friends in "the establishment". None of this says they cant do a Hulk film or that it wouldnt be really good. It just means that someone has to be clever to make a good one.

Great post, Fifthchild!

 

[Mjölnir]

However I still think there are real obstacles to a solo film. The Avengers didnt really move things along very far in terms of giving Hulk the fuly fledged personality as he has in the comics and AEMH cartoon. Thats probably something the public has to adjust to in order for the Hulk to have real longevity. And i'm not sure that any of the bad tempered intelligent Hulks really sit well with this new "aspirational", "heroic" path that Marvel seems keen on.

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Aditionally The Avengers probably limits in some ways what Hulk stories you can tell now that he has some pretty powerful friends in "the establishment". None of this says they cant do a Hulk film or that it wouldnt be really good. It just means that someone has to be clever to make a good one.

These two points are why I have a hard time seeing where they will go with Hulk. Not in the sense that I don't want to see it but just, as you say, that it needs to be clever in order for it to work. A Hulk solo film does seem to be something very different to him taking part in The Avengers.

I do expect them to have the capability of doing something very good with the character though.

 

[Herolee10]

For me, if there was another solo film for the Hulk, I would want to see him investigating into secret-illegal facilities that are conducting experiments on unwilling individuals with gamma radiation; have it revealed that it's actually the Leader who's responsible for that, thus the Hulk/Banner having to deal with the threat of the Leader unleashing a horde of gamma radiated monsters/creatures on society.


Also, a side note, in regards to TA:

Spoiler

I was a fan of how involved Banner was in the conversations with the group (before the argument scene), where he's actively contributing to the conversation going on when everyone is in that conference room after having heard/seen Loki's interrogation and how he backed up Tony's belief that SHIELD was going on behind their backs about the reasons why they were supposedly there when he and tony were in the room with Steve.

That's definitely a whole lot better than seeing a version of Banner who's anti-social and has no real place in the group

 

[El Payaso]

History isn't really the problem. Hulks big baggage was a first movie that was too heavyhanded on the psychodrama while also lacking in the plot department and a second movie that in trying to be everything the first one was not ended up being too lightweight to win many people over. If US audiences also react well to him then it does a lot to redeem his commercial prospects.

However I still think there are real obstacles to a solo film. The Avengers didnt really move things along very far in terms of giving Hulk the fuly fledged personality as he has in the comics and AEMH cartoon. Thats probably something the public has to adjust to in order for the Hulk to have real longevity. And i'm not sure that any of the bad tempered intelligent Hulks really sit well with this new "aspirational", "heroic" path that Marvel seems keen on.

Hulk also lacks in the supporting cast and rogues gallery stakes. Most of the people you would probably use - Ross and Betty - are already strongly associated with the earlier "failed" films. His classic villains are a bit lame. The Leader could be good but the earlier effort with Tim Blake Nelson was just awful. Obviously this wasnt a problem in The Avengers because the other heroes acted as both supporting cast and antagonists.

Aditionally The Avengers probably limits in some ways what Hulk stories you can tell now that he has some pretty powerful friends in "the establishment". None of this says they cant do a Hulk film or that it wouldnt be really good. It just means that someone has to be clever to make a good one.

Very well said, sir.

 

[ArtTeacher]

Has anyone seen the Hot Toys Hulk preview?

http://www.marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=15006