The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - Part 10

[Lantern Venom]

Yeah,but sometimes crazy people are just...crazy. Brock is clearly mentally disturbed. A lot of times evil or insane people are like that,esp. in the real world. Their motives make sense to only them alone. Like when John Hinkley Jr. decides that if he shoots president Reagan,Jodie Foster will like him. Nutty to us,rational to him. The same goes with Eddie. And like I mentioned in a previous post,once the monsterous symbiote got hold of Eddie's disturbed and fragile mind his anger at Spider-man became a lust for murder and revenge.

But we got hints almost immediately that Eddie wasn't "evil" in the classic sense as much as he was ill. I remember being shocked when Eddie did this, and we got our first glimpse at the Lethal Protector:

http://www.comics101.com/guestlecturer/news/Guest Lecturer/56/Venom 7.JPG

That's one of the many reasons I hate Raimi's cheesy VINO (Venom in name only) with such a passion. I rolled my eyes when VINO said, "I like being bad." That's a complete contradiction of the character. In comic Eddie's mind, he was the victim and Spider-man was the villain.

Did anyone else here actually like Green Goblin's "power ranger" costume from the first movie?

Sure, it doesn't even come close to beating the one from the comics but I never really had a problem with it like most people seemed to. It was a pretty cool re-imagining, imo.

I still think it came off well. It should have had some purple trim, but it still looked functional and believable. Plus, Dafoe nailed the voice and laugh.

 

[spiderman2]

Did anyone else here actually like Green Goblin's "power ranger" costume from the first movie?

Sure, it doesn't even come close to beating the one from the comics but I never really had a problem with it like most people seemed to. It was a pretty cool re-imagining, imo.

I loved the look. I think the only bad looking villain in a sm movie so for is gobin in asm2. I think this goblin is the second best looking villain in a sm movie so far behind only doc ock.

 

[Mad Ones]

He scared me when the movie first came out when I was kid. So I think it was successful on some level.

 

[FrozenBanana00]

Same. I jumped a few times when watching as a kid.

 

[The Joker]

Dafoe's Goblin is the best Goblin we've had on screen. He nailed it. And as Norman, too.

 

[LizardMan07]

All this goblin talk makes me want to watch SM1 again but it's far too late for that.

The worst dilemmas are the best sometimes

 

[The Joker]

I keep forgetting you're in Australia, BRAB, It must be the wee small hours of the morning over there now.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Dafoe's Goblin is the best Goblin we've had on screen. He nailed it. And as Norman, too.

I agree to this.

The split personality could had been scrapped IMO.

 

[spiderman2]

I agree to this.

The split personality could had been scrapped IMO.

He is the best villain we have had in a sm movie intreams of acting. Doc ock was pretty good to a better villain over all has he had better fights and a better motivation but not quit has good has gobin in acting.

 

[The Joker]

I agree to this.

The split personality could had been scrapped IMO.

How come? It's an integral part of his character, having the Goblin side and his Norman side, and the crazy conversations they have with each other.

Go to about 11:00 into the video for an example; http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21sln_spider-man-goblin-war_shortfilms

 

[spiderman2]

How come? It's an integral part of his character, having the Goblin side and his Norman side, and the crazy conversations they have with each other.

Go to about 11:00 into the video for an example; http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21sln_spider-man-goblin-war_shortfilms

Yeah I don't see the problem with having goblin side and norman side. I just watched the episode form the 90's seiras where goblin first shows up and the part where he starts to turn back to norma's is just great has his voice goes form gobin's voice back to norman's voice sever times.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

I see Norman Osborn after using the serum on the original ASM run as a total maniac guy and those scenes on SM1 kinda removes that on my view, also for me these scenes are rather uncomfortable to watch nowadays, I do get that it was used in many Spider-Man stories over the years but I think that without the split thing Norman would look more like a straight evil guy.

I remember watching that episode you linked as kid,good times

 

[spiderman2]

I see Norman Osborn after using the serum on the original ASM run as a total maniac guy and those scenes on SM1 kinda removes that on my view, also for me these scenes are rather uncomfortable to watch nowadays, I do get that it was used in many Spider-Man stories over the years but I think that without the split thing Norman would look more like a straight evil guy.

I remember watching that episode you linked as kid,good times

Yeah the 90's show never gets old. I started going though it form the begin about a month ago and I am now to season 3 episode 8 I think the episode where robies son gets into trouble with tuble stone I think is the next one.

 

[Nardz937]

I'm hoping they release a 15 year anniversary blu-ray for Spider-Man 1 in 2017 with a directors cut/deleted scenes. The shot of Harry holing his father in his arms in the scene in SM3 where he is getting flashbacks prove they exist.

 

[spiderman2]

I'm hoping they release a 15 year anniversary blu-ray for Spider-Man 1 in 2017 with a directors cut/deleted scenes. The shot of Harry holing his father in his arms in the scene in SM3 where he is getting flashbacks prove they exist.

So a question I have. We have now had delected scences in asm1 and 2 and we got sm 2.1 and we have heard about things that where delected in sm3 so sounds like sm1 is the only sm movie that hasn't had ether delected scences or at least anything on the internet about them am I right? Or has any one ever been able to find any info about delected scenes form sm1? I wish ever movie would have delected scenes on the dvd has it is cool to know what didn't make it.

 

[Nardz937]

So a question I have. We have now had delected scences in asm1 and 2 and we got sm 2.1 and we have heard about things that where delected in sm3 so sounds like sm1 is the only sm movie that hasn't had ether delected scences or at least anything on the internet about them am I right? Or has any one ever been able to find any info about delected scenes form sm1? I wish ever movie would have delected scenes on the dvd has it is cool to know what didn't make it.

The reason there has been such a huge demand for a SM3.1 is because people know there was a ton cut from the movie and there are pictures and reports all over the net that prove it. People also want it in hopes of a better cut of the movie.

There has been very little to nothing known about any deleted material from SM1 besides the one I just mentioned. But there must be a few things.

 

[spiderman2]

The reason there has been such a huge demand for a SM3.1 is because people know there was a ton cut from the movie and there are pictures and reports all over the net that prove it. People also want it in hopes of a better cut of the movie.

There has been very little to nothing known about any deleted material from SM1 besides the one I just mentioned. But there must be a few things.

While it just sounds like sm1 either had way less delected then ever other spider man movie or we just don't know what was cut because a lot was cut form both asm1 and 2 and sm3 had a some cut not has much form the sound of things has asm1 and 2 did though so really sm1 is the only one that we really have no idea what was or what wasn't cut form the movie. Both asm1 and asm2 would benefit a lot to form a directors cut. Really we need one for asm1 and 2 and sm3.

 

[LizardMan07]

I keep forgetting you're in Australia, BRAB, It must be the wee small hours of the morning over there now.

It was 12am when you posted that, hence why I fell asleep responding.

I'm planning to binge watch all five spider-man movies this sunday, shall be a fun adventure.

 

[Doc Ock]

Dafoe's Goblin is the best Goblin we've had on screen. He nailed it. And as Norman, too.

Yeah I never got tired of having him on screen, I loved how is influence reached throughout the whole trilogy. So wonderful! In some alternative universe there could of been more Dafoe.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, looks like I will be watching these movies for about the 1000th time in anticipation for TASM2 coming out. I always do it when a new Spidey movie is coming out, problem is watching Raimi's movies just makes the TASM ones seem worse and worse.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

It's always great watching these movies again. They are the best.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Didn't knew that the Extended Cut of SM2 would turn the movie to Raimi's best Spidey.

 

[The Joker]

What did they add to the 2.1 cut that turned it into his best Spidey movie for you?

 

[OriginalMiles]

I think the Jonah scene alone is a 10/10.

 

[GoodYoung]

Actually, Raimi did so many things right with the Green Goblin and Dafoe was the perfect cast but, God, he overacts all the time. I can't take him seriously, I can't look at his scenes without laughing. And he has pretty much worst costume in the whole Spider-Man franchise.
Dafoe could give a much better performance, to be honest.