The Official "I Loved Raimi's Spider-Man' Thread - Part 1 of 99 Luft - - - Part 12

[AnneFan]

Yeah I finally saw Homecoming last week and while I enjoyed it, itdoesnt hold a candle to the first 2 Raimi movies for me.

It had none of the pathos and emotion of the Raimi movies, and it didn't have the down on his luck everyman feel that is important to the Spiderman character for me, and Raimi nailed that aspect.

Also, barely any mention of Uncle Ben was nigh on criminal. Homecoming did have some really good moments and a good villain. And I think the sequel could be great. But the first 2 Raimi movies are still the team of the Spidey on film crop for me.

I agree with all of this. Raimi was the perfect fit for Spider-Man because he gave such a balanced interpretation of the mythos. Maguire's Peter will always be the best to me. Down on his luck, dorky and loveable. If anything, I think the SM Trilogy gets better with the passing of time. And that's not just nostalgia talking. Raimi just nailed it.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Raimi trilogy > Homecoming

That's my honest opinion, I'm not going to apologize for it.

 

[Zantera]

I agree. I liked Homecoming (definitely more than the TASM movies) but Raimi's trilogy will always be my go-to Spider-Man. He perfectly nailed Peter Parker IMO and his struggle of balancing being Spider-Man with having his own life (especially in SM2). He nailed the emotional stuff really well IMO, just compare how amazing the death of uncle Ben is executed in SM to how lackluster it was in TASM.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I love the previous incarnation, and it was a more pleasant duology than Homecoming.

 

[DX]

Homecoming isn't a duology though.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I agree with all of this. Raimi was the perfect fit for Spider-Man because he gave such a balanced interpretation of the mythos. Maguire's Peter will always be the best to me. Down on his luck, dorky and loveable. If anything, I think the SM Trilogy gets better with the passing of time. And that's not just nostalgia talking. Raimi just nailed it.

Couldn't agree more. Re-watched the Raimi movies just before Homecoming and still enjoyed the hell out of them.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I agree with all of this. Raimi was the perfect fit for Spider-Man because he gave such a balanced interpretation of the mythos. Maguire's Peter will always be the best to me. Down on his luck, dorky and loveable. If anything, I think the SM Trilogy gets better with the passing of time. And that's not just nostalgia talking. Raimi just nailed it.

I'd prefer it if he was a touch more confident and a sweet talker. That would've been ideal.

Homecoming isn't a duology though.

I didn't call it that.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I had a thought today; the damage caused directly by this Spider-Man or by him dodging is the least of the three movie incarnations, and he's the only one whose mistakes mostly did not endanger civilians.

 

[Smilodon]

Even rewatching SM2, I'm still blown away by the action and the nearly seamless effects on Spider-Man. The action is just so much more visceral. HC is a great film, but the action compared to any Raimi setpiece is like night and day. (Not to mention the VFX are more obvious) No one directs superhero action like him.

I also think, a defining feature of truly great comic book actions films is that every action setpiece is good, unique and compelling. SM2 is one of those films where every action setpiece is a gosh darn fantastic.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

That train sequence is still pure bliss.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Out of the trilogy it has the best effects, they aged really well, helps in sustaining the high quality of the action scenes, even though Ock should be dead 10 times over.

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

I can't think of an action set piece in these movies that wasn't incredible. Even the fights in the third film were engaging and fun to watch.

 

[AnneFan]

I had a thought today; the damage caused directly by this Spider-Man or by him dodging is the least of the three movie incarnations, and he's the only one whose mistakes mostly did not endanger civilians.

I loved how he webbed people up during the train sequence.

That train sequence is still pure bliss.

It's the gold standard.

I can't think of an action set piece in these movies that wasn't incredible. Even the fights in the third film were engaging and fun to watch.

Agreed. The final fight with the Green Goblin in SM1 is the standout for me. Peter gets the snot punched out of him in such a ruthless way. I think that's going to be very hard to top.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah that bothered me about the ASM movies and Homecoming, often Peter's mistakes were what put people in danger. So much for 'with great power comes great responsibility.'

However, Homecoming handled it better and showed Peter actually learning from this, I don't see the same happening in the sequel.

Raimi's Peter never tended to put people in harms way though, he mostly saved people from danger.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I loved how he webbed people up during the train sequence.

One of the finest moments.

Agreed. The final fight with the Green Goblin in SM1 is the standout for me. Peter gets the snot punched out of him in such a ruthless way. I think that's going to be very hard to top.

Indeed.

Yeah that bothered me about the ASM movies and Homecoming, often Peter's mistakes were what put people in danger. So much for 'with great power comes great responsibility.'

I wanted to say he didn't do that in the first Amazing Spider-Man movie, but he got the "It's my fault" part right for giving him the algorithm. Not his fault as Spider-Man, but an inadvertent mistake from Peter Parker.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

One of the finest moments.

Indeed.

I wanted to say he didn't do that in the first Amazing Spider-Man movie, but he got the "It's my fault" part right for giving him the algorithm. Not his fault as Spider-Man, but an inadvertent mistake from Peter Parker.

Yeah and then he carried on doing it in ASM 2. It was poor the way they handled it all in the end.

 

[Galactus123]

I wonder why they re-used a little bit of the SM2 ending swinging scene at the beginning of SM3? Why they couldn't just make a new one? It always feels odd.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Saves some money is one reason.

 

[Broseph44]

Yeah I finally saw Homecoming last week and while I enjoyed it, itdoesnt hold a candle to the first 2 Raimi movies for me.

It had none of the pathos and emotion of the Raimi movies, and it didn't have the down on his luck everyman feel that is important to the Spiderman character for me, and Raimi nailed that aspect.

Also, barely any mention of Uncle Ben was nigh on criminal. Homecoming did have some really good moments and a good villain. And I think the sequel could be great. But the first 2 Raimi movies are still the team of the Spidey on film crop for me.

I agree with all of this. Raimi was the perfect fit for Spider-Man because he gave such a balanced interpretation of the mythos. Maguire's Peter will always be the best to me. Down on his luck, dorky and loveable. If anything, I think the SM Trilogy gets better with the passing of time. And that's not just nostalgia talking. Raimi just nailed it.

Raimi trilogy > Homecoming

That's my honest opinion, I'm not going to apologize for it.

I agree with all of this. The more I think about it after having seen Homcoming a while back, the further it falls in my rankings. My top 3 would still be the a Raimi trilogy. SM2, SM and then SM3. I really just think Homcoming could've been so much better and it wasn't at all. Not what I had expected for a Spider-Man film finally in th MCU. A disappointment in many ways for me honestly. Had some stuff I sid enjoy, but overall fell short. Raimi trilogy is still the go to.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I agree with all of this. The more I think about it after having seen Homcoming a while back, the further it falls in my rankings. My top 3 would still be the a Raimi trilogy. SM2, SM and then SM3. I really just think Homcoming could've been so much better and it wasn't at all. Not what I had expected for a Spider-Man film finally in th MCU. A disappointment in many ways for me honestly. Had some stuff I sid enjoy, but overall fell short. Raimi trilogy is still the go to.

Have to say the same happened with me, the more I thought about HC after seeing it, the more I found it didn't impress me.

But I hear it holds up well upon re-watch, so hopefully that's the case with us also.

 

[Broseph44]

Have to say the same happened with me, the more I thought about HC after seeing it, the more I found it didn't impress me.

But I hear it holds up well upon re-watch, so hopefully that's the case with us also.

We shall see, but the raimi trilogy I could re-watch constantly and still love it.

 

[Smilodon]

I loved how he webbed people up during the train sequence.

It's the gold standard.

Agreed. The final fight with the Green Goblin in SM1 is the standout for me. Peter gets the snot punched out of him in such a ruthless way. I think that's going to be very hard to top.

Raimi's action setpieces definitely showcased Spidey's powers better I feel like. The true degree of his toughness, agility, flexibility, strength and ultimately, Peter's grit and will to overcome the situation at hand.

Peter taking a goblin grenade to the face definitely stands out to me. His strength was lacking in TASM, which is why seeing Spider-Man stop Bucky's punch as well as carry that loading bridge in Civil War was such a welcome sight.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

We shall see, but the raimi trilogy I could re-watch constantly and still love it.

Yeah same. Watched them before Homecoming and still love the hell out of them

 

[Broseph44]

I know SM3 gets **** on by a lot of people and is regarded as some horrendous film. Years and years later now, I still enjoy it. It's my least favorite of the trilogy and yes it has some problems and things I don't particularly enjoy. But overall I can still watch it and get some enjoyment from it.

 

[Vampfox]

Saw Spider-Man 3 Editor's Cut. And It's nice to finally see part of the sandcastle scene that was in the novelization. Personally I do think that there's a good movie in here under the Sony crap that was forced on Raimi.