The Official Lex Luthor Casting Thread

[C. Lee]

I think they figured that out when they had the first confrontation with Sabretooth's attack on Rogue and Wolverine. They knew who he worked for.

But....I don't remember if they said - "Hey, look...it's Sabertooth." or anything to that effect. Seeing him attack Wolverine...doesn't mean they knew who he was. Like I said..I'll try to rewatch it in a day or two just for my own info.

 

[Matt]

The twist may negate much of what was shown in the movie...but it shows the genius of Spacey's character....it's one thing to say someone can think quick on his feet....it's another to show them doing it.

Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that it negates the entire movie which I think is lazy. I think finding a twist that fits with the plot instead of negating the plot with the twist simply for the sake of having a twist would be much better film making.

I will rewatch X-Men to check...but did Xavier actually know who Sabertooth and Toad were at that point and that they were working with Magneto?

Well, being as they were walking away with Magneto, carrying Rogue, I think it was a good bet they did.

 

[VenomsMom]

But....I don't remember if they said - "Hey, look...it's Sabertooth." or anything to that effect. Seeing him attack Wolverine...doesn't mean they knew who he was. Like I said..I'll try to rewatch it in a day or two just for my own info.

But if Im not mistaken, I thought they were competing to get to them first thinking that Magneto was trying to get to wolverine. They all originally thought that Magneto wanted Wolverine but it was Rogue he wanted all along.

 

[C. Lee]

That's why I said I need to rewatch it......

 

[Showtime]

Agreed. But that does not excuse or justify Singer's inadequacies.

In this case I am not using it to justify his inadequacies but to point out how much better he understood the world of X-Men when compared to Ratner. In regards to Superman, that's a cape of a different color.

Sure it did. The whole plot falls apart because the motivations make no sense. The entire elaborate plot the villian set up which makes up the movie, is made pointless by the twist ending. Therefore there was really no point to watching the entire plot of the movie.

Tell that to M. Night...wait... The Lady in the Water already told him.

 

[Matt]

In this case I am not using it to justify his inadequacies but to point out how much better he understood the world of X-Men when compared to Ratner. In regards to Superman, that's a cape of a different color.

To an extent. But Ratner also understood things about the X-Men that Singer could never dream of. Its funny, what Singer got right, Ratner totally dropped the ball on, and what Ratner got right, Singer didn't even touch.

Tell that to M. Night...wait... The Lady in the Water already told him.

Thing about M.Night is, while Lady in the Water was horrible....he also shows exactly what a twist should be in The Sixth Sense. It is shocking, you don't see it coming, there are hints, but they are subtle enough you only detect them on repeat viewings, and once you know the twist it fits in perfectly with the plot as opposed to the twist in The Usual Suspects which negated the entire plot.

 

[Showtime]

To an extent. But Ratner also understood things about the X-Men that Singer could never dream of. Its funny, what Singer got right, Ratner totally dropped the ball on, and what Ratner got right, Singer didn't even touch.

I would have to agree with that, I was definately entertained by Ratner's take until the plot hole monster started to bite during the crucial 3rd act.

Thing about M.Night is, while Lady in the Water was horrible....he also shows exactly what a twist should be in The Sixth Sense. It is shocking, you don't see it coming, there are hints, but they are subtle enough you only detect them on repeat viewings, and once you know the twist it fits in perfectly with the plot as opposed to the twist in The Usual Suspects which negated the entire plot.

I would have to agree with that, I really can't defend Usual Suspects because I don't really see what the big deal is anyway about the movie. I saw it, and never wanted to see it again.

In regards to M. Night, hopefully he can redeem himself with The Happening, his first R rated movie. It's going toe to toe with The Hulk.

 

[DarkMajin]

I woud rather like to see LexCorp be in the sequel...and see a real Lex Luthor rather than a weaksauce throwback to the Donner Luthor.
Only time his character really showed anything was when he stabbed Superman...and then...that was it from him for the rest of the film.

I personally thought TAS Luthor was spot on for how I see the definitive Luthor. An intelligent, powerful scientific businessman who is not obviously criminal. Someone Superman can't touch yet without discarding the ideals he protects.

SR's Luthor was nothing like this...and most likely he'll never become that in the Singerverse. He'll most likely simply be the same snakeoil type salesmen guy who rides the coattails of the next villain.

Much like how Lex led Zod to Lois in Superman II...Lex will lead the next villain to Jason in SR2...and that'll probably be all his part is about.

 

[Spiderine]

I would love to see Lexcorp. My only question is how they would do it now.

 

[superbaby]

I would love to see Lexcorp. My only question is how they would do it now.

if they really want to do a Lexcorp, the best thing to do is never try to explain it. the more you say, the more wrong you are.

 

[Spiderine]

if they really want to do a Lexcorp, the best thing to do is never try to explain it. the more you say, the more wrong you are.

Singer has done enough not to explain things and look where it got him.

 

[Qwerty©]

Singer has done enough not to explain things and look where it got him.

Yep, the nitpicky fans are whining on message boards He must be horrified

 

[GreenKToo]

I dont think it would be much of a stretch at all to show Lex-corp in the sequel, I mean Lex did get a load of money in S.R., so he could use that to start it. The question is, will singer want to show it.

 

[VenomsMom]

From con man criminal to straight laced well respected business man.

Well...it worked for George Bush.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I'm not saying you have to follow my format exactly but... For example only: I outlined a plot idea of John Corben being an ex military guy (with no legs wanting to walk again, and yes get involved in crime again-as I don't want a good guy turned bad Spidey type villain) with a suspect record being used by Lex, who has kryptonian technology gained from Brainiac and is using it to create Metallo. Thus a test case for the government for the kind of soldiers that would aid in "protection" of our national security that gets funded by the US military when in reality, Lex is going to manipulate Corben (Metallo) for the purpose of killing Superman. For Brainiac, he just sees it as Kal-el's first "test" of strength. Another test for example could see how he deals with the death of a loved one such as his only son Jason. Anyways, from this funding and Lex's involvement with Star Labs we now have Lexcorp established.
Again that is just my outline trying to tie in a lot of different ends.
Yeah yeah, we also have his inheritance from the first film if you want to use that as a startup for Lexcorp. I just wanted him to have a more split public where he's using the status of Superman as an icon or God among men, in a negative light even blaming NK on him. Some people think Lex could be on to something and support him, while others know the MOS is virtuous.
Bottom line, the word has got out that fans want Brainiac and would be even more pleased if Metallo is also in the film. I think we all got the word out on that and as a result they are listening.
We have mostly all agreed or at the least have not opposed Lexcorp being established and Lex being a more business criminal tycoon (last word I heard is Lex may be a political figure instead for MOS.. eh).
So if you want it to happen, get the word out! Start emailing news sites like IGN, IESB, SHH, etc... If you have contact addresses/emails for anyone regarding SR production get out the word...
"We want Lexcorp for the sequel!"
*crickets churping amongst deaf ears*
**JcDc runs out of thread!**

I would LOVE to see an interviewer just once ask Mike, Dan, or Singer himself a question like "So... Any possibility of Lex establishing Lexcorp for the sequel?"

I always feel interviewers miss the boat by ignoring that question. I'm not the only one that wants Lexcorp to happen.

 

[Nokio]

I like Lex, and I like Spacy's Lex, but he doesn't have to be in the next film. It's time to move on with these ongoing villians. I know Lex has been an integrel part of superman, but in the comics Lex isn't there for every issue. So he's not needed in every film. Also using an actor like Spacy for every flick is going to drive up production costs.

Singer had a chance to make Lex shine and he didn't. God please let this man be taken off Superman.

 

[Mister J]

Lex doesn't have to (and shouldn't) dominate the film as a primary villain to be included in the sequel. He doesn't even need to drive the central conflict, but his presence should be there. I'd love to see LexCorp happen. He's got all of Old Lady Vanderworth's money and could be trying to rehabilitate his image; playing up the public facade, while still engaged in some shady dealings and plotting against Supes. Definitely relegate him to the background, but I like the continuity of him wanting to rid 'his city' of Superman.

 

[wellsy]

Lex being in the film isn't a necessity.

Having a building with LexCorp plastered all over it is.

Thats what I'd like to see.

 

[Angeloz]

If they don't do LexCorp I won't miss it at all.

Angeloz

 

[Thespiralgoeson]

Lex doesn't have to (and shouldn't) dominate the film as a primary villain to be included in the sequel. He doesn't even need to drive the central conflict, but his presence should be there. I'd love to see LexCorp happen. He's got all of Old Lady Vanderworth's money and could be trying to rehabilitate his image; playing up the public facade, while still engaged in some shady dealings and plotting against Supes. Definitely relegate him to the background, but I like the continuity of him wanting to rid 'his city' of Superman.

I totally agree. I personally like the idea of Lex founding LexCorp, and having massive PR campaign to change his image. I think that could be a potentially engaging (and quite amusing) subplot, so long as it doesn't distract from the central story (which I think should definitely be Supes vs. Brainiac.)

 

[DangerousInc.]

I hated Spaceys Lex but Id like to see Lex and LexCorp although it would be better rebooted!

 

[X-Rated]

Id like to see Lex and LexCorp although it would be better rebooted!

Agree

 

[LexLuthor]

I could see the 2nd movie starting out 2 - 3 years later with Lex sort of hiding out in foreign nations and forming relationships with heads of states by providing weapons, technology, etc, and selling weapons to some terrorist groups (think Nicolas Cage's character in God of War) and becoming part of an "illuminati" type network (think Arvin Sloane of Alias TV series (who portrayed a modern day Lex Luthor)). He is betrayed by the whole network which causes him to turn to the US government for a deal, and is portrayed as a hero of sorts. His response..."I did all the things I did for my country." "I was one of the only people who could truly infiltrate these organizations and take them down, unfortunately due to wrong path I took at a younger age." "But this just goes to show you that things happen for a reason...for a greater good." This would be the perfect set up for his political career. However, the technology he was selling had a very concealed Trojan Horse type virus which feeds all the major players information into the Brain InterActive Construct which Luthor came to know about during his visit to The Fortress of Solitude. LexCorp is established on the basis of the technology shared by Brainiac. Of course we know that Brainiac is into world domination/destruction. Luthor knows this and plays it to his advantage knowing what major move Brainiac is going to take. Of course once Brainiac takes that big step, Superman will be there to stop him and Luthor will already have a plan in play to assist. Both will be seen as heroes. But, Lex will play on the fact that Brainiac is a device from Krypton, "and if Superman wasn't here, we wouldn't have had so many deaths and world crisis issues." There will be a split in the US...some will believe and support Superman. Some will become weary, and go with Lex Luthor's accusations (recall the last episode of Superman TAS and how the world was torn when he was brain washed by Darkseid. And, recall how our country was almost half and half regarding the Bush & Gore runoff).

Ok, that was all from the top of my head at the moment. But, I could see it working, if executed right. Or, some underlining theme from what I typed above. Just my thoughts.

 

[Steelsheen]

I would LOVE to see an interviewer just once ask Mike, Dan, or Singer himself a question like "So... Any possibility of Lex establishing Lexcorp for the sequel?"

I always feel interviewers miss the boat by ignoring that question. I'm not the only one that wants Lexcorp to happen.

i think they've tried asking these in interviews but the terrible trio doesnt answer it.

 

[M.O.Steel]

LEXCORP needs to be established, and use technology supplied by BRAINIAC, to "protect" metropolis (giving rise to Metallo in the sequel), and then once that plans fails, Brainiac comes down in person and takes care of business.

(For the trilogy) They could somehow still make brainiac responsible for the destruction of krypton, making a connection with superman. It can also be a invasion of earth by his forces (and if they want to use this angle, the could have lex redeem himself but fighting back with whatever he has)

(I'm picturing a character that's sort of a combo of darkseid and braniac)