EA The Official Mass Effect Thread - Part 2

Orba said:
From what I understand transgender people often don't talk about their old lives, its usually a time full of bad memories, unhappiness and confusion before they realised who they really were. Its basically another person's life. I've heard that the transgender community tend to refer to their old names as "dead-names", many do not give it even to people they are close to.

So having a character saying that they were transgender and even giving their old name, all without any kind of prompting is considered, to someone they just met is considered a poor attempt at representation. Part of why people are annoyed about it is that in Dragon Age Inquisition Bioware had Krem who was considered a pretty good attempt a representation.
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Well like I said earlier the people upset about this need to stop thinking that 28th century transgender people in a fictional society that is probably much much more accepting of different types of people and beings will behave like 21st century transgender humans in our bigoted judgemental society. If in this 28th century society transgender people aren't judged and hated and are accepted as perfectly normal people by society they have no reason to hide the fact that they are transgender. Gamers need to stop thinking transgender people will always behave the same and that society will always give them reason to hide who they really are.

In this fictional game set far in the future this particular transgender person is comfortable talking to others about themself.

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I'm soooo offended.:o
 
Yes Mass Effect is clearly set in a world that's more inclusive to other races, genders, alien species, etc.

The Krogan are arguably even more bigoted than the human race when you get right down to it. I don't think you can apply current day views to a society that's sort of post-everything in the future.

Look just like in Star Trek, you have a society that's moved past a lot of things and is more inclusive as well. It's also a society that doesn't have money or financial renumeration anymore.
 
TheVileOne said:
Yes Mass Effect is clearly set in a world that's more inclusive to other races, genders, alien species, etc.
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hmmm no on not really
TheVileOne said:
The Krogan are arguably even more bigoted than the human race when you get right down to it. I don't think you can apply current day views to a society that's sort of post-everything in the future.
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I think the console fear and bigotry which lead to the creation of the spector's to suppress the Krogan and part's of cerberus hate for alien's in gen at times (with the exception of meranda and her former boy friend and the crew of the normandy 2) and Ashley's family hate talk of aliens which passed on from grandfather show case an allegory mostly to wards alien's being hated . But it wasn't just the Krogan. and there were asiri that talk down about humanity on the citadel and other races . it was there and it wasn't just the krogan that had it. talis people the quarians had been treated badly by the Council and their people did it to the geth etc .





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Look just like in Star Trek, you have a society that's moved past a lot of things and is more inclusive as well. It's also a society that doesn't have money or financial renumeration anymore.
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If were talking star trek every other race that wasn't federation like the feringy used money. I think they latiium or what ever.. they always showed them bit on it.


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[FONT=&quot]Hard currency can be stolen or counterfeited, so electronic fund transfers are the norm. More importantly, physical transactions cannot be easily tracked, making them ideal for tax evasion or the purchase of illegal goods.[/FONT]
 
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Fired up ME3 again. And once again I find myself exploding into a rant about how Bioware completely ****ed a huge bulk of their fanbase over with no vasiline.

BioWare: "Here, let's introduce you to 8-10 of the most colorful and interesting characters in all of fiction in the last decade and have you journey with them all across our vast sci-fi setting for 40 hours ... and then let's resort to making them irrelevant insignificant cameos at the conclusion of our trilogy. Never mind that this maybe the last time you ever come across these characters in any form of media ever. Oh wait? You're mad? Well at least you've got the Blue Mary Sue back, you SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT!!"

BLK: *Shuts off Xbox*
 
BlueLanternKal said:
Fired up ME3 again. And once again I find myself exploding into a rant about how Bioware completely ****ed a huge bulk of their fanbase over with no Vaseline

BioWare: "Here, let's introduce you to 8-10 of the most colorful and interesting characters in all of fiction in the last decade and have you journey with them all across our vast sci-fi setting for 40 hours ... and then let's resort to making them irrelevant insignificant cameos at the conclusion of our trilogy. Never mind that this maybe the last time you ever come across these characters in any form of media ever. Oh wait? You're mad? Well at least you've got the Blue Mary Sue back, you SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT!!"

BLK: *Shuts off Xbox*
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:funny: I still can't even look at that game on my shelf without getting angry about Freddie Prince Jr.'s cliche, wise cracking, tough guy, space marine trope that has appeared in every single sci-fi movie, game, and book since Aliens Vega. I mean, seriously, who in Bioware's writers room said "well, we really need a tank character to balance out the squad, and we have Wrex and Grunt, two interesting, well-developed characters with stories that need closure, sitting on the shelf....buuuuut **** it. Let's just throw in a Latino stereotype."?
 
Don't forget the one reporter character they killed on Twitter.

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I am absolutely addicted to this game's co-op mode. One of the best things I've ever played and will be surprised if I'm not still into it in a year's time. My campaign progress has ground to a snail pace and I've even slowed down on Witcher (which is a bad thing!).
 
BlueLanternKal said:
Fired up ME3 again. And once again I find myself exploding into a rant about how Bioware completely ****ed a huge bulk of their fanbase over with no vasiline.

BioWare: "Here, let's introduce you to 8-10 of the most colorful and interesting characters in all of fiction in the last decade and have you journey with them all across our vast sci-fi setting for 40 hours ... and then let's resort to making them irrelevant insignificant cameos at the conclusion of our trilogy. Never mind that this maybe the last time you ever come across these characters in any form of media ever. Oh wait? You're mad? Well at least you've got the Blue Mary Sue back, you SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT!!"

BLK: *Shuts off Xbox*
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I wouldn't bother replaying what you already know you don't like, unless you go for the Citadel DLC which is an awesome way to end the trilogy (and is all about those great characters).

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:funny: I still can't even look at that game on my shelf without getting angry about Freddie Prince Jr.'s cliche, wise cracking, tough guy, space marine trope that has appeared in every single sci-fi movie, game, and book since Aliens Vega. I mean, seriously, who in Bioware's writers room said "well, we really need a tank character to balance out the squad, and we have Wrex and Grunt, two interesting, well-developed characters with stories that need closure, sitting on the shelf....buuuuut **** it. Let's just throw in a Latino stereotype."?
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Yes, terrible character. I dropped him at the first opportunity.
 
[FONT=&quot]In the same podcast where the rumor of a reboot/remake of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic from BioWare surfaced, came another rumor. This time, the rumor focused on a "Destiny-style" game from BioWare that has been referred to as a "semi-MMO."[/FONT]
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"They've been quiet about what their new IP is for a good while. This is a project that's been in development for around four years, it's currently set to be revealed at E3 2017... I don't know if they've said this publicly, it's set to come out next year.
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"Its name right now is 'Dylan' - there's no other way to say it right now, it's Dylan, as in Bob Dylan. I believe that relates to the main character."
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[FONT=&quot]As for information that Robertson revealed that he wasn't "100% sure on," Robertson detailed what the main characters could be like:[/FONT]
"Dylan is, from what I understand, a sci-fi themed game, it is sort of Destiny-style, takes some elements from The Division, it has like MMO elements. Someone described it as a 'semi-MMO'. I don't know much more than that... it is a huge scale project, perhaps the biggest BioWare has ever done. It's bigger than Mass Effect Andromeda, considerably so. It will have co-op.
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"From what I understand... I'm not 100% sure on this part... all the rest I am 100% sure on. It's like, triple sourced, rock solid information. This is the part where it gets a little sketchy as I've only heard this from one artist who's working on it.
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"[He/She] says that the main character is this sort of like gorgeous Adonis and there is a female character as well - I'm not sure if you can play as her - but she's more schlubby looking and those are the two main characters."
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[FONT=&quot]When Mass Effect: Andromeda launched, it was considered to be pretty unpolished and many felt it didn't represent the quality of the critically acclaimed RPG series. A number of bugs surfaced on the internet showing bizarre animation bugs and scenes that had basically no animation at all. Bioware has released some patches that drastically improve the game's technical state, but if you pirated the game... we've got some bad news for you.[/FONT]
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so the new Bioware IP might be a Destiny style semi-MMO?

and the main male character will be a gorgeous Adonis while the main female character will be schlubby (unattractive)?

yeah........methinks that won't go over too well.......lol.
 
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I give new Denuvo a week since the original Denuvo was supposed to be uncrackable
 
zenith16 said:
hmmm no on not really



I think the console fear and bigotry which lead to the creation of the spector's to suppress the Krogan and part's of cerberus hate for alien's in gen at times (with the exception of meranda and her former boy friend and the crew of the normandy 2) and Ashley's family hate talk of aliens which passed on from grandfather show case an allegory mostly to wards alien's being hated . But it wasn't just the Krogan. and there were asiri that talk down about humanity on the citadel and other races . it was there and it wasn't just the krogan that had it. talis people the
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Yes really actually.

You are talking about some isolated incidents. The Krogans are not exactly choir boys. It's still an improvement over the world we are in today. I think the Initiative itself speaks to that for the most part. You can turn Ryder into a bridge builder. Most of the people are decent understanding people.
 
TheVileOne said:
Yes really actually.

You are talking about some isolated incidents. The Krogans are not exactly choir boys. It's still an improvement over the world we are in today. I think the Initiative itself speaks to that for the most part. You can turn Ryder into a bridge builder. Most of the people are decent understanding people.
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No not really and your arguing with the entire Council's history of mistreatment of other alien races that weren't members on mass effect history which goes beyond just the game or just the krogans as to what you said were isolated even they weren't they are allegory's . since it's in other mediums like both novel's and comic's. All of which I'm sure will take up too much space argument wise and it's not me your argueing with when you think about it all .

I may be pointing it out to you yes but what your saying counter this thing & star trek are two different things the only thing they truly have in common are space ships and alien's kinda the same thing with J. Michael Straczynski's Babylon 5

the cultures still differ with hat make up their universe. if really look at it all. But your gonna give a confused answer to this.

as I said I don't have the time for all this or sending this thread off the rail's for it ether.

as to the latter part about people there wereb decent understand people therte wouldn't be crimenal inthe first among the merc's or crime sydicate or pirates. none of those would exist all prior to ryder .
 
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zenith16 said:
No not really and your arguing with the entire Council's history of mistreatment of other alien races that weren't members on mass effect history which goes beyond just the game or just the krogans as to what you said were isolated even they weren't they are allegory's . since it's in other mediums like both novel's and comic's. All of which I'm sure will take up too much space argument wise and it's not me your argueing with when you think about it all .

I may be pointing it out to you yes but what your saying counter this thing & star trek are two different things the only thing they truly have in common are space ships and alien's kinda the same thing with J. Michael Straczynski's Babylon 5

the cultures still differ with hat make up their universe. if really look at it all. But your gonna give a confused answer to this.

as I said I don't have the time for all this or sending this thread off the rail's for it ether.

as to the latter part about people there wereb decent understand people therte wouldn't be crimenal inthe first among the merc's or crime sydicate or pirates. none of those would exist all prior to ryder .
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Sorry but I can't agree with any of that.
 
zenith16 said:
as stated

I wasn't expecting you to agree from the get go

just say the series as whole doen't go with it's completely like star trek thing. it's it's own thing
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Your answer was very confused and garbled. There are more similarities than you care to admit. Especially with Andromeda. Other major review sites have also made the Star Trek comparison.
 
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TheVileOne said:
Your answer was very confused and garbled. There are more similarities than you care to admit. Especially with Andromeda. Other major review sites have also made the Star Trek comparison.
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Mass Effect definitely has Star Trek-influences and they are actually more apparent in Andromeda, but the most blatant influence on Mass Effect's world building was definitely Babylon 5, especially for the trilogy. The number of direct parallels are staggering and have been commented on by the genre media like io9. The gaming media references Star Trek more because Babylon 5 was a 90s niche hit with a very cult following and therefore most non-sci fi commentators are not aware of it. But things like the Council, the Normandy, the Krogan, the Asari, Mass Effect Relays, the Illusive Man, Cerberus, Biotics, First Contact War, the Reapers and their cycle, etc. all find strong parallels in Babylon 5's mythology. And yes, many of these elements are common scifi tropes, but its the collection of the same tropes in both Babylon 5 and Mass Effect that make the influence clear.
 
BlueLanternKal said:
Fired up ME3 again. And once again I find myself exploding into a rant about how Bioware completely ****ed a huge bulk of their fanbase over with no vasiline.

BioWare: "Here, let's introduce you to 8-10 of the most colorful and interesting characters in all of fiction in the last decade and have you journey with them all across our vast sci-fi setting for 40 hours ... and then let's resort to making them irrelevant insignificant cameos at the conclusion of our trilogy. Never mind that this maybe the last time you ever come across these characters in any form of media ever. Oh wait? You're mad? Well at least you've got the Blue Mary Sue back, you SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT!!"

BLK: *Shuts off Xbox*
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:sly:
 
Its funny that BioWare ****ed up Mass Effect 3's ending so badly they had to set the followup game in another galaxy just so they could tell more stories in that universe.
 
Something feels missing about this game. I'm enjoying it enough to play it regularly, but it feels more like a chore instead of the epic fun of the first trilogy. Part of me thinks that it's the lack of squadmates that I'm really into like Garrus and Tali, and another part of me feels that being a Pathfinder doesn't feel all that special compared to the feeling of being a Spectre in the first game. In about 20 hours the game just isn't clicking like I hoped. Maybe it'll get better by the end, but right now it's lagging behind the other three.
 


Is it a big enough sale to jump into Andromeda?


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[FONT=&quot]One month into the release of Mass Effect: Andromeda and we're already seeing a price cut on physical copies. A big price cut of 33% at GameStop.
This is just a week long promotion, however, but it can be ordered online as well, so you don't even need to pencil in the time to head to the store.
The Deluxe Edition of Mass Effect: Andromeda is also on sale at a 28% cut of $69.99.
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