Sequels The Official Mike Dougherty & Dan Harris Thread

[BMM]

Of course, don't let the absence of emoticons deceive you. Although I'm not sure why you're seizing upon those two comments and offering no other contribution!

With little news, there’s not much else to discuss that’s Superman related. The rest of this conversation is just an extension of debate that’s more appropriate to the X-Men forums. If you want, I will offer that Alan Cumming would have returned to X-Men 3, as he was contractually obligated to do so and has said on multiple occasions that he was ready to begin filming before and after the director changes. He was written out by Kinberg and Penn. That information is available in the archives of the homepage on this very site for anyone who’s interested… so I’m not sure where you’re getting that Cumming said he wouldn’t return.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=1059
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=1701
http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=2517
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=3165

 

[X-Maniac]

With little news, there’s not much else to discuss that’s Superman related. The rest of this conversation is just an extension of debate that’s more appropriate to the X-Men forums. If you want, I will offer that Alan Cumming would have returned to X-Men 3, as he was contractually obligated to do so and has said on multiple occasions that he was ready to begin filming before and after the director changes. He was written out by Kinberg and Penn. That information is available in the archives of the homepage on this very site for anyone who’s interested… so I’m not sure where you’re getting that Cumming said he wouldn’t return.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=1059
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=1701
http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=2517
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=3165

Good catch... but if he hated both the make-up process and Singer's directing style then I'd think that would become clear to everyone concerned. Contractual obligations aren't always honoured. I recall that Graham Norton show well, as mentioned in one of the links. The links also mention how he 'didn't enjoy' working with Bryan, for some reason he doesn't elaborate upon.

But, Cumming may have had to do X3, that's true. Raquel Welch was forced to do One Million Years BC (just watched the reissue including her interview) for contractual reasons. The silly woman still doesn't seem to realise it made her career and is her only memorable movie role.

And, yes, we are just floundering in a no-news vacuum here! Still, a bit of chat is fine!

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Also, we don't know exactly what Singer and co had suggested for X3 or what Fox really thought of what he suggested. All we know is that an X3 was, for some reason, not immediately approved (something I've never understood).

Actually, Lauren Shuler Donner confirmed in an interview that Singer never expressed any of his ideas for X-Men 3, before he left.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002538543

But Singer leaving to do "Superman Returns" -- which he discussed openly with Shuler Donner and her husband Dick Donner, the director of the 1978 "Superman"-- was tough to take. Particularly since he took all his unexpressed ideas for "X-Men 3" with him. "It was a blow," Shuler Donner admits. "He's my friend, I respect him, and saw us doing all the 'X-Men.' "

 

[Nightwing1977]

I know for sure the Dark Phoenix thing was still Singer's idea for X3. He left it open when we saw Jean starting to show some of the Phoenix's power & the ending when we saw the Phoenix-shape symbol in the lake after she supposely drowned.

 

[Showtime]

Not a good day for "The Superman Team", first Singer's Valkeryie is delayed and now Mike Dougherty's Trick R Treat is dropped by WB.

 

[Super Kal]

sounds good to me...

 

[Showtime]

That Trick R Treat was dropped?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

The word from everyone whose seen is it's damn good.

 

[X-Maniac]

Valkyrie did look good... but Tom Cruise is not a very hot commodity at present. Everyone thinks he's just a loony. However, I want to see this movie.

I recently rewatched Singer's Triangle miniseries (Night One suffers from the too dark, too filtered, lighting syndrome that plagued parts of SR - a scene at an airport in Triangle showed an orange sky in the middle of the day!!!). A quite good miniseries though. Except Catherine Bell, who has a frog-like mouth and kept pouting oddly. Bruce Davison's character speaks of there being 'mystique' in the Bermuda Triangle and i knew immediately Singer had put that in the script as one of his little nods.

 

[Super Kal]

well, actually, I was referring to the delay of Valkyrie

 

[nintendo nerd]

Not a good day for "The Superman Team", first Singer's Valkeryie is delayed and now Mike Dougherty's Trick R Treat is dropped by WB.

Why was it delayed?

 

[Gotham]

Why was it delayed?

A spot opened up in February, and there's barely what they'd consider competition for the film in that month.

 

[Showtime]

Which means because the budget went over, they need to hit a bigger payday in order to come up with some profitability against their projections.

 

[Angeloz]

When was it meant to come out? I'm not obsessed by those details so don't know it.

Angeloz

 

[bgshw44]

When was it meant to come out? I'm not obsessed by those details so don't know it.

Angeloz

origionally it was suppose to be a july 4th release, then august i believe

 

[bgshw44]

Valkyrie did look good... but Tom Cruise is not a very hot commodity at present. Everyone thinks he's just a loony. However, I want to see this movie.

I recently rewatched Singer's Triangle miniseries (Night One suffers from the too dark, too filtered, lighting syndrome that plagued parts of SR - a scene at an airport in Triangle showed an orange sky in the middle of the day!!!). A quite good miniseries though. Except Catherine Bell, who has a frog-like mouth and kept pouting oddly. Bruce Davison's character speaks of there being 'mystique' in the Bermuda Triangle and i knew immediately Singer had put that in the script as one of his little nods.

watch the pilot of House and the colors are aweful too. I watched the History of Superman documentary that Singer did, and any time you saw footage from SR the colors were crisp and rich. I couldnt believe how bad it was butchered in post production(obviously the doc came out before the color correction etc..)

 

[zerohour films]

watch the pilot of House and the colors are aweful too. I watched the History of Superman documentary that Singer did, and any time you saw footage from SR the colors were crisp and rich. I couldnt believe how bad it was butchered in post production(obviously the doc came out before the color correction etc..)

You know I finally got to see this the other night on USA. Love the show, but man that filter/color correction used was terrible. It was almost like a bad color job on an old black/white movie.

Didn't make the connection at the time with Singer and SR. Yeah he really needs to stay away from that area of filmmaking. Leave it to professionals who know how to use it the right way.

 

[stargazer]

Not a good day for "The Superman Team", first Singer's Valkeryie is delayed and now Mike Dougherty's Trick R Treat is dropped by WB.

When was Trick R Treat dropped?

According to Legendary Pics, the film is listed as coming soon,

www.legendarypictures.com

 

[Showtime]

Warner Bros dropped Trick R Treat, Legendary is still trying to get the picture made with other distributors.

 

[stargazer]

Warner Bros dropped Trick R Treat, Legendary is still trying to get the picture made with other distributors.

Oh, I see. But the movie was finished, isn't it? And I remember hearing good things about it, what do you think happened?

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I hope Sony picks it up for this Halloween. They do know how to market movies. And I hope it makes 80 million to show the WB how stupid they were.

 

[Showtime]

It is completely finished.

There are a number of things that could be a factor, budget, timing, executive reaction,...maybe something connected to his departure from Returns. Now he is working with Disney I believe on his Robot movie.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Personally I thought that Valkrie looked pretty awful. Pushing it back once is okay, but when a studio does that a second time, that usually spells trouble. Singer and Cruise can't afford to have this movie underperform. I don't know about it making a 100mil now. Some movies are put in Feb because honestly they will perform better there, but this is suppose to be a prestige Oscar flick. More often than not the Oscars don't remember movies that come out at the first part of the year. This is isn't a romantic comedy or low rent action flick, so I call dumps ville on this one.

 

[StylishHokie21]

Great news. That script was a mess.

 

[Angeloz]

origionally it was suppose to be a july 4th release, then august i believe

Thanks.

watch the pilot of House and the colors are aweful too. I watched the History of Superman documentary that Singer did, and any time you saw footage from SR the colors were crisp and rich. I couldnt believe how bad it was butchered in post production(obviously the doc came out before the color correction etc..)

I don't remember the pilot being awful. But it's been awhile (that said it got me to watch the series and I hate or really am generally sick of medical dramas or even comedies so don't watch them any more. "House" is the exception).

Angeloz