The Dark Knight The Official Plot holes thread.

[ross2287]

I have a couple questions about the party scene.

First, how can Bruce choke Harvey into unconsciousness and not have Harvey ask Rachel a lot of difficult questions later?

Bruce used his Batman voice so Rachel could just say it was Batman coming to save him.

Maybe a tiny nitpick but anyone notice that Rachel was still wearing the same clothes in the morning at Wayne's penthouse after the previous night when Bruce tells her he's giving up?

Bruce and Rachel had teh buttsecks. [blackout]Spelling errors intentional [/blackout]

3.Joker stole the rest of the shrimp, Gordon talks about it in his speech.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Sonar Vision.

That's impossible because when Gordon was on the phone with Two-Face, the Sonar was already in use as Batman was inside the building. But as soon as he was done with Joker, the radio had been used for Gordon to call up a perimeter. He even says it.

You're assuming it wasn't used until Batman showed it to Lucius.

So you're saying that Batman took out maroni, got to the monitors of the sonar vision, just happened to have an audio sample of Dents voice and just by chance decided "Hey you know what? I'm gonna check up on my favorite DA!" and ran a search and then got to the scene THAT fast? What sounds more realistic? Batman was already outside with Maroni and heard the gunshot and got to the seen ASAP or the whole Sonar thing? Seriously.

 

[Hole Shot]

You know how I think Batman found Dent when he was in the alley with the schizo?

Spoiler

movie magic

 

[Asteroid-Man]

when Dent is with the fake cop he calls Rachel and she tells him that she is going to Bruce's. she told Alfred about the call and it wouldn't be hard for Batman/Alfred to trace the call to the location.

But what was the point in tracing him then? And why all of a sudden, leave Maroni to do that? The sonar theory doesn't add up.

 

[CaptainClown]

You know how I think Batman found Dent when he was in the alley with the schizo?

Spoiler

movie magic

It is also possible bruce saw Harvey get into the ambulance and then just asked Alfred to trace the wearabouts.

 

[Hole Shot]

It is also possible bruce saw Harvey get into the ambulance and then just asked Alfred to trace the wearabouts.

There are ton of possible explanations and that's why I don't have an issue with this or any other of the "plot holes."

 

[The Battousai]

So you're saying that Batman took out maroni, got to the monitors of the sonar vision, just happened to have an audio sample of Dents voice and just by chance decided "Hey you know what? I'm gonna check up on my favorite DA!" and ran a search and then got to the scene THAT fast? What sounds more realistic? Batman was already outside with Maroni and heard the gunshot and got to the seen ASAP or the whole Sonar thing? Seriously.

Think about the time frame for a second.

It went from late afternoon (Loeb memorial/Dent taking Schiff) -> evening (Barbara told about Gordon/Batman inerrogating Maroni/Dent interrogating Schiff).

Depending on how late in the afternoon the memorial was crashed (and how late in the evening the subsequently shown events took place), there was at least half an hour to an hour between the first event and the ones following.

That's plenty of time for Batman to set up the sonar system to track Dent's cell in order to find him (considering he seemed to disappear after the Loeb memorial coupled with the previous attempt on his life). Knowing about his relationship with Rachel, Bruce expected him to call her at one point or another.

EDIT: Also, what they ^ said could be right

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

This may not be a plot hole. I've only seen the movie once, so it might have been explained in the movie, or you guys may have addressed it already and I may have missed it, but...

When Batman had to "choose" between Rachel and Harvey, why couldn't he go to save one and send the GCPD after the other?

 

[christpunchers]

I'm pretty certain that early on the sonar computers were already in use. There's a panning shot of Batman overlooking gotham, you can hear clips of people's voices then you hear something like 'you can find harvey here'..... batman has one hand on the side of his head as if he's looking through built-in goggles in his masks, scanning for clues. This scene is right after the "ruby the size of a tangerine" convo between bruce and alfred. Through sonar, bruce knows where dent was when he was interrogating joker's thug after the attempted mayor assassination.

 

[christpunchers]

This may not be a plot hole. I've only seen the movie once, so it might have been explained in the movie, or you guys may have addressed it already and I may have missed it, but...

When Batman had to "choose" between Rachel and Harvey, why couldn't he go to save one and send the GCPD after the other?

Batman chose Rachel, gordon and the cops went for Harvey. But joker lied and batman ended up saving harvey while the cops couldnt get to rachel in time (where they thought harvey was).

 

[Asteroid-Man]

This may not be a plot hole. I've only seen the movie once, so it might have been explained in the movie, or you guys may have addressed it already and I may have missed it, but...

When Batman had to "choose" between Rachel and Harvey, why couldn't he go to save one and send the GCPD after the other?

That's what he did. The GCPD and MCU didn't get to Rachel on time. They were running into the warehouse when it blew up.

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

Batman chose Rachel, gordon and the cops went for Harvey. But joker lied and batman ended up saving harvey while the cops couldnt get to rachel in time (where they thought harvey was).

Right right. Okay.

It's a dense movie. I'm going to see it again and maybe catch more stuff like that.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I'm pretty certain that early on the sonar computers were already in use. There's a panning shot of Batman overlooking gotham, you can hear clips of people's voices then you hear something like 'you can find harvey here'..... batman has one hand on the side of his head as if he's looking through built-in goggles in his masks, scanning for clues. This scene is right after the "ruby the size of a tangerine" convo between bruce and alfred. That's how bruce knows where dent was when he was interrogating joker's thug.

That's a police scanner. It's a radio which is what I assume he used to find Two-Face when Gordon called up a perimeter but for the Dent interrogation, him hearing the gunshot while outside is the most logical explanation.

 

[christpunchers]

We can probably also assume that the sonar vision that bats used prior to him showing it to fox was probably a lot less complex but also less effective. He needed fox to overlook the entire city with 100+ computer monitors, something bats cannot do alone as he is out there with only his own eyes.

 

[Raptor2k]

This may not be a plot hole. I've only seen the movie once, so it might have been explained in the movie, or you guys may have addressed it already and I may have missed it, but...

When Batman had to "choose" between Rachel and Harvey, why couldn't he go to save one and send the GCPD after the other?

Gordon and his men went to one of the addresses, but were too late.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

We can probably also assume that the sonar vision that bats used prior to him showing it to fox was probably a lot less complex but also less effective. He needed fox to overlook the entire city with 100+ computer monitors, something bats cannot do alone as he is out there with only his own eyes.

So he would've had to of planted a specific phone on Dent like they did at Loa's building. Again, it's improbable. Accept the fact that he just heard the gun shot while "on duty" as Batman usually does. The sonar is unneeded there. He was LOOKING for Dent to begin with. And we don't even know how much of the technology he had advanced on! I mean, he needed it in the end to find the Joker but he wasn't looking for Dent.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Gordon and his men went to one of the addresses, but were too late.

He also radioed for every available unit to head over there.

 

[chaseter]

Most of these are really lame as in not paying attention.

 

[nathan andrew]

Who took Harvey Dent to the hospital? All Batman had was his Bat-pod. Did he leave him in the street freshly charred and call an ambulance?

Can somebody's face really get that messed up for being lit on fire for 5 seconds? Was that just gas or napalm?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Who took Harvey Dent to the hospital? All Batman had was his Bat-pod. Did he leave him in the street freshly charred and call an ambulance?

Can somebody's face really get that messed up for being lit on fire for 5 seconds? Was that just gas or napalm?

Asuming he(batman) got the fire out, the hot gas is still gonna burn.

And maybe he called him a cab? Also I'm sure Gordon would've radioed for some backup for bats!

 

[CWP]

I only saw The Dark Knight one time when it first came out, so I may have missed something in the "plot-hole" that I caught. The public is told that Harvey Dent got out of the hospital before the Joker blew it up even though he was actually missing. Well, later, Two-Face enters this place and confronts a guy (I forgot who he is) who exclaims, "I thought you were dead!"

Get what I'm saying? He wasn't supposed to be assumed dead, or missing, but rather that he was safe.

 

[batmanofbaylor]

why is harvey's nickname in the MCU harvey two face?

 

[In a Pickle]

why is harvey's nickname in the MCU harvey two face?

Because Harvey worked in Internal Affairs at the time, investigation cops.

 

[In a Pickle]

i have a few

how could joker set up all thoses schemes with the bombs and things....and also how could he afford it?

How did harvey survive the car crash if maroni(i think thats his name) died in the crash.

JESUS CHRIST, PEOPLE, WATCH THE ****ING MOVIE. Didn't you notice the bank robbery in the first 8 minutes of the movie?? Didn't you notice the big-ass pile of cash that the Joker had??

Also, to answer your last question....Harvey put on a seat belt before shooting Maroni's driver.

 

[The Battousai]

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