The Dark Knight The Official Plot holes thread.

[mrbrownie]

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[Ragdoll0138]

i have a few

how could joker set up all thoses schemes with the bombs and things....and also how could he afford it?

How did no one notice the bombs on the ferrys before they left port

How did harvey survive the car crash if maroni(i think thats his name) died in the crash.

did you not watch him rob the bank at the beginning?

 

[Ragdoll0138]

yea after a second veiwing i was wondering if joker used the money from the robberey to buy the bombs..and now i do remmeber he said that those things are cheap.thanks.

I also dont understand how harvey didnt reconize joker until he removed the mask in the hospital.You can cleary see his make up and he should have heard joker kill the security guard.

he had harveys file covering his face

 

[Paradyme]

I'm pretty certain that early on the sonar computers were already in use. There's a panning shot of Batman overlooking gotham, you can hear clips of people's voices then you hear something like 'you can find harvey here'..... batman has one hand on the side of his head as if he's looking through built-in goggles in his masks, scanning for clues. This scene is right after the "ruby the size of a tangerine" convo between bruce and alfred. Through sonar, bruce knows where dent was when he was interrogating joker's thug after the attempted mayor assassination.

I think you're right because shortly after while they were matching bullet fragments for fingerprints and Fox asks Bruce that he wasn't aware of any government contracts. Bruce told him he was keeping it pretty close to the chest. Now I know Dent said the same line to Gordon but I feel as though they were talking about two different plans.

 

[CrimsonDeath]

yea after a second veiwing i was wondering if joker used the money from the robberey to buy the bombs..and now i do remmeber he said that those things are cheap.thanks.

I also dont understand how harvey didnt reconize joker until he removed the mask in the hospital.You can cleary see his make up and he should have heard joker kill the security guard.

I thought the Joker used a silencer on the gun but I'm not sure. But I think in one of viral games it is revealed that the Joker steals all kinds of chemicals from some warehouse, chemicals that can be used for explosives. I barely remember something like that sometime this past year.

 

[bethehero7404]

Two things that I noticed that may be movie errors...

1. In the trial scene Dent refers to Carmine Fal-cone witha silent 'E.' In Batman Begins, Rachel says Falcon-e with the 'E.'

2. The Joker escapes and his make up is really messed up but in the next scene with that foreign mob guy with the dogs and burning Lau and the money, his make up is back to before the chase scene. He may have reapplied though.

 

[The_Raganork]

Two things that I noticed that may be movie errors...

1. In the trial scene Dent refers to Carmine Fal-cone witha silent 'E.' In Batman Begins, Rachel says Falcon-e with the 'E.'

2. The Joker escapes and his make up is really messed up but in the next scene with that foreign mob guy with the dogs and burning Lau and the money, his make up is back to before the chase scene. He may have reapplied though.

#1 He says Falcon-IE; and even if he didn't different people pronounce things different ways it's like calling him "Batman" Vs. "The Batman"

#2 He reapplied it; I think it's safe to assume.

 

[coleyhinson]

Two things that I noticed that may be movie errors...

1. In the trial scene Dent refers to Carmine Fal-cone witha silent 'E.' In Batman Begins, Rachel says Falcon-e with the 'E.'

2. The Joker escapes and his make up is really messed up but in the next scene with that foreign mob guy with the dogs and burning Lau and the money, his make up is back to before the chase scene. He may have reapplied though.

When he escapes...its night...the next scene is the day...he reapplied it

 

[bethehero7404]

Okay. Thanks. I am seeing it again to catch what I truly missed AND to watch my Dad freak out. He hasnt seen it yet.

 

[The_Raganork]

Yeah; another good thing about this movie is watching other people react to it.

I cracked up the second and third time when Brian Douglass hits the window and everyone jumps!

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Two things that I noticed that may be movie errors...

1. In the trial scene Dent refers to Carmine Fal-cone witha silent 'E.' In Batman Begins, Rachel says Falcon-e with the 'E.'

Here look at this vid to see how people pronounce words differently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3fjQa5Hls

 

[AMDodson]

Yeah, all the plot-holes I have read are totally explained if you think about it. This film is so nearly perfect, its not even funny!

 

[The_Raganork]

I was thinking this possibly could be merged with the Dark Knight as a question thread. They're basically doing the same thing.

 

[jm9843]

The public is told that Harvey Dent got out of the hospital before the Joker blew it up even though he was actually missing. Well, later, Two-Face enters this place and confronts a guy (I forgot who he is) who exclaims, "I thought you were dead!"

Get what I'm saying? He wasn't supposed to be assumed dead, or missing, but rather that he was safe.

The guy Two Face confronts is the crooked cop Wuertz, who was working for Salvatore Maroni, who in turn was taking orders from the Joker.

Wuertz is the one who picked up Dent after the Joker's failed ambush and took him to the building to be blown up. Wuertz assumed Dent was dead because he was in on the plot to kill him.

 

[DarkForceRising]

Random thought that I don't remember anyone mentioning:

When the Joker escapes from the penthouse, couldn't he just steal Bruce's chopper? The one that he and the pretty ladies arrived in? Or did that leave and I missed it?

That would completely bypass all the bat-grappel/penthouse-elevator stuff.

 

[The_Raganork]

Random thought that I don't remember anyone mentioning:

When the Joker escapes from the penthouse, couldn't he just steal Bruce's chopper? The one that he and the pretty ladies arrived in? Or did that leave and I missed it?

That would completely bypass all the bat-grappel/penthouse-elevator stuff.

What makes you think Joker knows how to fly a chopper?

 

[DarkForceRising]

What makes you think Joker knows how to fly a chopper?

He's the Joker. I could totally see him knowing how to fly a chopper. Or one of the thugs not totally knocked out/woke up knows how to fly one.

Criminals need to know these things.

The biggest plot hole of them all:
Where'd that darned pencil go?

Spoiler

 

[The_Raganork]

He's the Joker. I could totally see him knowing how to fly a chopper. Or one of the thugs not totally knocked out/woke up knows how to fly one.

Criminals need to know these things.

The biggest plot hole of them all:
Where'd that darned pencil go?

Spoiler

That's not a good reason.

and thusly not plot hole.

 

[rockportspidey]

How bout when Joker first enters the mob meeting and he's mock laughing. He passes right through the metal detector and his knives and grenades don't set off the alarm.

 

[sclabguy]

How bout when Joker first enters the mob meeting and he's mock laughing. He passes right through the metal detector and his knives and grenades don't set off the alarm.

he comes in from a different place or he was just hiding in a corner till the right moment... you'll see when you watch it again

 

[The_Raganork]

How bout when Joker first enters the mob meeting and he's mock laughing. He passes right through the metal detector and his knives and grenades don't set off the alarm.

I don't think we see him come through the metal detector and His grenades could all be fake; we see several of them armed; but, 0 of them went off

 

[sclabguy]

i think the grenades were real... I had this slight detection that the joker wanted to die throughout the whole movie

 

[The_Raganork]

i think the grenades were real... I had this slight detection that the joker wanted to die throughout the whole movie

I think that Joker wanted Batman to kill him. Suicide is not his plan; he wants to break the will of the city. I think the grenades were just to scare the Mobsters; just like in the Bank Heist with the tellers and the manager;it went off; but, it was just smoke.

 

[chaseter]

How bout when Joker first enters the mob meeting and he's mock laughing. He passes right through the metal detector and his knives and grenades don't set off the alarm.

Watch the mother f***ing movie people...frick Joker comes in from a double door area...not through the metal detector.

Most of (90%) the 'plot holes' in here are clearly shown.

 

[The_Raganork]

Watch the mother f***ing movie people...frick Joker comes in from a double door area...not through the metal detector.

Most of (90%) the 'plot holes' in here are clearly shown.

you got that right. This really should be the "Ask a question"