Playstation The Official PS4 Thread - Part 13

[X Knight]

yeah, I wouldn't run out and buy any PS3 disc until we know for sure if PS5 will even have BC, and if BC will extend to PS3 or earlier.

even if PS5 is BC with PS3 and earlier, that may only be digital and not physical discs.

so who knows. I'd wait for more info.

 

[spiderman2]

So there's rumours of ps5 supporting backwards compatibility... so should I buy ps3 discs that I've missed before? assuming they would work for ps5 in 2021.

Ps5 should be 2020 not 2021 but we dont known yet and the rumors of ps5 being able to play old games is most likely true for ps4 games but again we dont known and I think people are expecting to much when they think it will be able to play ps3 games.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'd probably wait til 2021 for ps5 even if it comes out next year. The ps5 games would be half priced by then and I'm hoping ps5 would be cheaper by then.

 

[zenith16]

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[zenith16]

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[X Knight]

it seems like a hassle to change PSN ids with all the potential risks and problems that may arise.

it kind of makes you appreciate how MS/Xbox were able to pull that feature off for all these years without such issues. I mean, I remember back in the 360 days you could change your Gamertag.

hopefully Sony can work out the kinks and make the name change process smoother with less risks.

the next thing they need to add is Custom Avatars/Profile Pics. you should be able to use whatever pic you want ( within reason of course ) just like you can on Xbox. that's another feature that makes you appreciate Xbox more.

For years, on PS4, I've been wanting to use a Superman or SW pic for my Avatar. but there are none available in the PS store to choose from. On Xbox, I can easily use what pic I want.

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah I really don’t get all the hype to be honest. Although I suppose it would be embarrassing if you still had the same username as you did when you were a teenager and it’s something like teamjacobfiveever or something

 

[Iceman]

Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation

 

[X Knight]

Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation

Nice to get the 1st official details.

I'm not going to comment on the hardware bits. I'll leave that to the more technically inclined here. Other than all that sounds nice......lol.

The only hardware part I'll comment on is the SSD internal drive. It's nice SSD will offer faster loading times and other benefits. But my concern is. What will be the size of the internal?

I was hoping for next gen, we'd get at least 2 TB ( with 1 TB being the bare minimum ). But if we are getting SSD drive, which are more expensive but with less space for the price, will a 1 TB or 2 TB SSD be cost feasible for the console? Does that mean we will be getting something like 250 GB to 500 GB?

Will we be able to still swap the internal drive like we could on PS3 and PS4? And, will we still have the option to plug in an external drive like we can now with the PS4? I hope we get the option to do BOTH.

As for game file sizes, will they continue to get larger and larger? Or can they come up with some kind of "compression" solution to shrink those file sizes down ( for example, a 60 GB game now only takes up 40 GB )? Will they improve the download/install process to make it more efficient?

As for the other stuff mentioned in the article, I'm glad PS4 BC is confirmed. That was almost a bare minimum given, and I'm glad my PS4 library will continue to be playable on the next system.

Now, it would be even better if they can go the next step and enable FULL PS1-PS3 BC ( via emulation, I guess ). Man, if they announce full PS1-PS3 BC ( both via disc and digital ), THAT would seal the deal for me and pretty much ensure I get the PS5 over the next Xbox. There are way more classic PS1-PS3 titles I'd love to be able to play via BC than there are OG Xbox and 360 games. If PS5 was one system that could play all Playstation games, that would be golden.

 

[X Knight]

also, to add.

I didn't see any mention of the new controller. But they really need to improve the battery life. That's my biggest complaint with the PS4 controller.

And, ditch the Touchpad if games aren't going to use the Touchpad in any meaningful way. For most games I've played, the Touchpad is nothing more than a giant select/menu/map button. And if that's all it's going to be used for, a normal sized button would serve that function.

Also, the Lightbar. I understand the Lightbar is used for VR stuff. But if I'm not using VR, then give me the option to turn that Light completely off so it doesn't drain the battery as much.

 

[Iceman]

Nice to get the 1st official details.

I'm not going to comment on the hardware bits. I'll leave that to the more technically inclined here. Other than all that sounds nice......lol.

The only hardware part I'll comment on is the SSD internal drive. It's nice SSD will offer faster loading times and other benefits. But my concern is. What will be the size of the internal?

I was hoping for next gen, we'd get at least 2 TB ( with 1 TB being the bare minimum ). But if we are getting SSD drive, which are more expensive but with less space for the price, will a 1 TB or 2 TB SSD be cost feasible for the console? Does that mean we will be getting something like 250 GB to 500 GB?

Will we be able to still swap the internal drive like we could on PS3 and PS4? And, will we still have the option to plug in an external drive like we can now with the PS4? I hope we get the option to do BOTH.

As for game file sizes, will they continue to get larger and larger? Or can they come up with some kind of "compression" solution to shrink those file sizes down ( for example, a 60 GB game now only takes up 40 GB )? Will they improve the download/install process to make it more efficient?

As for the other stuff mentioned in the article, I'm glad PS4 BC is confirmed. That was almost a bare minimum given, and I'm glad my PS4 library will continue to be playable on the next system.

Now, it would be even better if they can go the next step and enable FULL PS1-PS3 BC ( via emulation, I guess ). Man, if they announce full PS1-PS3 BC ( both via disc and digital ), THAT would seal the deal for me and pretty much ensure I get the PS5 over the next Xbox. There are way more classic PS1-PS3 titles I'd love to be able to play via BC than there are OG Xbox and 360 games. If PS5 was one system that could play all Playstation games, that would be golden.

SSD has been around for laptops for a long time.
I would hope they go up to 2GB AND still allow for externals. It’s an exciting development as is the ray tracing and other improvements.

 

[psylockolussus]

I want the controller to be slimmer.

The lightbar is cool when games change its color but that rarely happens. The touchpad is odd, at first glance, it looks cool but its not as easy to use compare to a laptop's touchpad and I only use it as a button and not as a touch pad.

 

[BoredGuy]

also, to add.

I didn't see any mention of the new controller. But they really need to improve the battery life. That's my biggest complaint with the PS4 controller.

And, ditch the Touchpad if games aren't going to use the Touchpad in any meaningful way. For most games I've played, the Touchpad is nothing more than a giant select/menu/map button. And if that's all it's going to be used for, a normal sized button would serve that function.

Also, the Lightbar. I understand the Lightbar is used for VR stuff. But if I'm not using VR, then give me the option to turn that Light completely off so it doesn't drain the battery as much.

I haven't had any issues with battery life on my controllers

What I HAVE had an issue with is crap shoulder buttons that break, sticks that wear out, and a very difficult process of replacing those components.... so more solid build-quality would be greatly appreciated on the DS5

Agreed on the touchpad and lightbar though, either figure out real uses for it, or ditch it... mostly the touchpad, the lightbar can be fun to add some customization to your controller

 

[Gee]

Prices of SSDs are dropping down lately. I bought a 500GB for my PC last July for 115 CAD. Today, that very same SSD is going for 85 bucks. Sure, there are the NVMe M.2 form factor SSDs which are very costly but I doubt the majority of consumers care about five times more bandwidth speed. I expect SATA III SSDs for PS5 (hey, still an upgrade over SATA II on the PS4 ) with at least 250GB.

They should give a hybrid solution: SSD for main storage/OS and an optional storage slot for either another SSD or for a good old HDD with massive storage (1+ TB). Put your favorite AAA games, or the ones that are known to have long loading times, on the SSD and keep the HDD for the rest. Honestly, would you care if that indie game doesn't load under five seconds?

 

[X Knight]

Prices of SSDs are dropping down lately. I bought a 500GB for my PC last July for 115 CAD. Today, that very same SSD is going for 85 bucks. Sure, there are the NVMe M.2 form factor SSDs which are very costly but I doubt the majority of consumers care about five times more bandwidth speed. I expect SATA III SSDs for PS5 (hey, still an upgrade over SATA II on the PS4 ) with at least 250GB.

They should give a hybrid solution: SSD for main storage/OS and an optional storage slot for either another SSD or for a good old HDD with massive storage (1+ TB). Put your favorite AAA games, or the ones that are known to have long loading times, on the SSD and keep the HDD for the rest. Honestly, would you care if that indie game doesn't load under five seconds?

yeah. I was thinking of some kind of dual hdd solution, too.

a bigger 1+ TB regular hdd for the main storage. and the SSD for "active usage" when gaming.

 

[X Knight]

also, I'm glad the PS5 will still be a traditional console that takes physical media and not some all digital deal.

at least give us one more gaming generation with traditional consoles.

I don't really want an all digital + streaming gaming future.

 

[spiderman2]

So I guess I was some what right when I said I thought we would get some ps5 details around may but I was sure not expecting to get the details in a interview instead of like some kind of conference. Now that they did this do you guys think they will show ps5 for first time a little bit after e3 or what? Now with them doing the state of PlayStation thing they started I am expecting them to do one in may before e3 to like give more details about like TLOU2 and some of the other big games and such. I have heard some people say maybe they will not show ps5 off un till like PSX 2019 but it would seem kind of odd to give us some ps5 details in a interview and than not show ps5 at all un till like 8 months later. But at the same time its odd we got are first ps5 details in a interview in the first place.

 

[spiderman2]

also, I'm glad the PS5 will still be a traditional console that takes physical media and not some all digital deal.

at least give us one more gaming generation with traditional consoles.

I don't really want an all digital + streaming gaming future.

Neither do I because than you dont truly own any games.

 

[X Knight]

So I guess I was some what right when I said I thought we would get some ps5 details around may but I was sure not expecting to get the details in a interview instead of like some kind of conference. Now that they did this do you guys think they will show ps5 for first time a little bit after e3 or what? Now with them doing the state of PlayStation thing they started I am expecting them to do one in may before e3 to like give more details about like TLOU2 and some of the other big games and such. I have heard some people say maybe they will not show ps5 off un till like PSX 2019 but it would seem kind of odd to give us some ps5 details in a interview and than not show ps5 at all un till like 8 months later. But at the same time its odd we got are first ps5 details in a interview in the first place.

I think it depends on when PS5 will release next year ( assuming it does, which seems more and more likely ).

if it's around a March 2020 release, then I could see them waiting until PSX 2019 to unveil it. But instead of PSX in December, maybe they hold it earlier this year like in September or October. in the meantime, they can use interviews and State of Plays to release more and more details.

but, if PS5 isn't coming out until Holiday 2020, then they will probably wait until Spring 2019 to announce it, with unveil at E3 2020. Like how they did with PS4.

 

[X Knight]

Neither do I because than you dont truly own any games.

exactly.

and if they decide to pull a digital game from the store, for whatever reason, said game would no longer be available to purchase and play if digital only.

 

[spiderman2]

About the size of the hard drive dosnt really matter because they are never going to give a big enough hard drive any way and you are going to have to upgrade your hard drive any way with how big games are. Ps4 having a 500 GB hard drive with how big games are now days is just a joke. I got a 2 TB hard drive in my ps4 and have like around 700 GB left and depending on when some of the final big ps4 games come out and when ps5 comes out I still may have a few more games to get on ps4 and games are only going to be bigger. Also with ps5 being backwards compatible some of the space on ps5 will be taken up by ps4 games. Ps5 needs to have like a 4+ TB hard drive but that will not happen.

 

[spiderman2]

I think it depends on when PS5 will release next year ( assuming it does, which seems more and more likely ).

if it's around a March 2020 release, then I could see them waiting until PSX 2019 to unveil it. But instead of PSX in December, maybe they hold it earlier this year like in September or October. in the meantime, they can use interviews and State of Plays to release more and more details.

but, if PS5 isn't coming out until Holiday 2020, then they will probably wait until Spring 2019 to announce it, with unveil at E3 2020. Like how they did with PS4.

While I am thinking next state of play will be in may and will be updates to the big ps4 games. I am still going with a march 2020 release but we will see. I could even see August this year to like show it if its going to be march 2020 and than more details at PSX. Yeah if its holiday we may not get any thing un till feb but at the same time it would be kind of odd to say some stuff and than not show it for almost a full year.

exactly.

and if they decide to pull a digital game from the store, for whatever reason, said game would no longer be available to purchase and play if digital only.

Yeah that is what I mean oh and thinking about that I may need to keep my ps4 now because drive club had a lot of dlc and its getting pulled like later this year that means I think there would be no way to keep the dlc if I was playing the game on ps5. I known game saves you can save onto a flash drive and than like transfer over but if a game has like user created content I am not sure if there is a way to transfer that over either. For example on ps3 modnation racers server is not up any more meaning you cant download any more user created tracks, karts etc. So if say ps5 could play ps3 games and you played that game on ps5 I dont think you could use user created stuff any more. So I got to like hope my ps3 never breaks or I will lose that user created stuff and dlc on drive club on ps4 if my ps4 ever breaks.

 

[spiderman2]

Hoping for early 2020 but sounds like it may be late 2020 based off this. AMD's 7nm Chips For Next-Generation PlayStation 5 Will Be Ready In Q3 2020

 

[spiderman2]

Also just saw this Spec Analysis: Sony's surprise PlayStation 5 tech reveal • Eurogamer.net

 

[X Knight]

While I am thinking next state of play will be in may and will be updates to the big ps4 games. I am still going with a march 2020 release but we will see. I could even see August this year to like show it if its going to be march 2020 and than more details at PSX. Yeah if its holiday we may not get any thing un till feb but at the same time it would be kind of odd to say some stuff and than not show it for almost a full year.



Yeah that is what I mean oh and thinking about that I may need to keep my ps4 now because drive club had a lot of dlc and its getting pulled like later this year that means I think there would be no way to keep the dlc if I was playing the game on ps5. I known game saves you can save onto a flash drive and than like transfer over but if a game has like user created content I am not sure if there is a way to transfer that over either. For example on ps3 modnation racers server is not up any more meaning you cant download any more user created tracks, karts etc. So if say ps5 could play ps3 games and you played that game on ps5 I dont think you could use user created stuff any more. So I got to like hope my ps3 never breaks or I will lose that user created stuff and dlc on drive club on ps4 if my ps4 ever breaks.

yeah, I'm curious as to how PS4 related stuff will transfer to the PS5.

will we be able to save our PS4 save files to a USB stick and then plug that into the PS5 and have it work off the bat?

likewise, will we be able to save our PS4 game files to an external drive and then plug that drive into the PS5 and it will be good to go right away?

hopefully, there will be a convenient and seamless way to transfer our PS4 games, content, and save files to the PS5.