Sequels The Official Remy LeBeau/Gambit Thread

What would you like to see in a movie Gambit?

  • Cast Josh Holloway!

  • Don't cast Josh, but cast somebody about that age

  • Give me a young Gambit!

  • Rogue and Gambit make such a CEE-YUTE couple!

  • Please, no lovey-dovey stuff with Rogue and Gambit!

  • I have absolutely no idea...


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Actually, he was recently approached by the studio for the role of Gambit, meaning they're planning on using the character sometime soon. I'm thinking they want to secure their Gambit since they want to make him the centerpiece of the new films like Wolverine was for the first 3 movies.
I wouldn't count on Gambo being the center of any film. Unless they completely force the character to suffer big changes and turn into Wolvie 2, which I highly doubt, and don't want to happen. I'd like Gambit to have a Nightcrawler type of role, just with more action scenes.
 
Unless they completely force the character to suffer big changes and turn into Wolvie 2, which I highly doubt, and don't want to happen.

Thats what I fully expect to happen. It's not like marvel has any respect or consideration for the character after all (comic stuff ).
 
Why do folks think Gambit is Wolvy 2? They are nothing alike. Logan's a brawler, Gambit is a sneak and a thief. Not quite the same thing....
 
I don't think Holloway should be Gambit.
 
Why do folks think Gambit is Wolvy 2? They are nothing alike. Logan's a brawler, Gambit is a sneak and a thief. Not quite the same thing....

Well, Gambit was created (personality wise) in a mold similar to Wolverine's...

He's shady, ruthless, has a dark (yet relatively unknown) past... You get the idea.

He's obviously not exactly like Wolverine... But he's close enough to be portrayed in a very similar fashion in a movie.
 
Well, Gambit was created (personality wise) in a mold similar to Wolverine's...

He's shady, ruthless, has a dark (yet relatively unknown) past... You get the idea.

He's obviously not exactly like Wolverine... But he's close enough to be portrayed in a very similar fashion in a movie.
I disagree. Logan is gruff, curt and short with folks. Not exactly good company.

Gambit is slick and not a loner. He needs others even if it's just to seduce and steal from them. I get the idea he would be fun to hang with, even if he couldn't be entirely trusted. :)
 
Gambit is slick and not a loner. He needs others even if it's just to seduce and steal from them.

I disagree on that point. I think it's more a case of he wants people and their acceptance, but he doesn't really allow himself to have it.
 
I think Wolverine and Gambit are both loners but different kind of loners. Wolverine is a loner by nature, he isn't social guy and doesn't fit in easily. Gambit is a loner by choice. He is very social and sure can fit in but he doesn't want to.
 
I wouldn't count on Gambo being the center of any film. Unless they completely force the character to suffer big changes and turn into Wolvie 2, which I highly doubt, and don't want to happen. I'd like Gambit to have a Nightcrawler type of role, just with more action scenes.
I think Gambit could be great in a central role. In my X4 script, he and Rogue are the two main characters (though they won't get together until X5 if it goes the way I want it to). I don't think he and Logan should be exactly alike, but I do think there are some similarities that should be explored a little. Their relationship should begin as a mutual hatred, which grows into reluctant respect as the movie unfolds. But their relationship should definitely NOT be the most important part of Gambit's character. It should be his past, his desire to change, and also the foundations of his impending relationship with Rogue.
 
Their relationship should begin as a mutual hatred, which grows into reluctant respect as the movie unfolds.

Thats Wolverine's relationship with Cyclops. Logan and Remy have always had a kind of kinship, since they walk similar paths in life, but they don't really trust each other.
 
Thats Wolverine's relationship with Cyclops. Logan and Remy have always had a kind of kinship, since they walk similar paths in life, but they don't really trust each other.
Well, I'm looking at a much more tumultuous relationship than that of Scott and Logan. For example, I wrote in a brief physical altercation when Logan and Gambit first meet (which happens to be at a bar). Logan openly opposes Gambit staying at the mansion, but is overruled by Storm because Gambit saved her life (an extremist shoots her, but Gambit throws an explosive card into the guy's gun hand, so Storm ends up shot in the arm instead of the chest). Gambit doesn't really want to become a "student", but Rogue talks him into sitting in on a couple classes, one of which is a self-defense class taught by Logan. The class is taught in the Danger Room (virtual reality, so nobody really gets hurt), where Logan and Gambit duel. Though Logan wins, they have an excellent fight in which they earn a degree of respect from one another.

I don't think this relationship would be a whole lot like Scott/Logan. In the beginning, Scott and Logan had more of a mistrust than a hatred; and I'd hardly say their later relationship was based on respect. I'd say it was more like they grew on each other, and grew fond of each other and their opposing personality traits. With Gambit and Logan, you'd NEVER see them crying in each other's arms; but you'd see certain undertones of admiration in their interactions. Gambit might in some ways respect Logan's authority more than he does with the others, while Logan might be less bossy with Gambit than he is with others. Their relationship would be pretty much all about mistrust and respect (which may be somewhat paradoxical), without the same love you saw between Scott and Logan.
 
Well, I'm looking at a much more tumultuous relationship than that of Scott and Logan. For example, I wrote in a brief physical altercation when Logan and Gambit first meet (which happens to be at a bar). Logan openly opposes Gambit staying at the mansion, but is overruled by Storm because Gambit saved her life (an extremist shoots her, but Gambit throws an explosive card into the guy's gun hand, so Storm ends up shot in the arm instead of the chest). Gambit doesn't really want to become a "student", but Rogue talks him into sitting in on a couple classes, one of which is a self-defense class taught by Logan. The class is taught in the Danger Room (virtual reality, so nobody really gets hurt), where Logan and Gambit duel. Though Logan wins, they have an excellent fight in which they earn a degree of respect from one another.

I don't think this relationship would be a whole lot like Scott/Logan. In the beginning, Scott and Logan had more of a mistrust than a hatred; and I'd hardly say their later relationship was based on respect. I'd say it was more like they grew on each other, and grew fond of each other and their opposing personality traits. With Gambit and Logan, you'd NEVER see them crying in each other's arms; but you'd see certain undertones of admiration in their interactions. Gambit might in some ways respect Logan's authority more than he does with the others, while Logan might be less bossy with Gambit than he is with others. Their relationship would be pretty much all about mistrust and respect (which may be somewhat paradoxical), without the same love you saw between Scott and Logan.

That sounds great. I'd love if that actually happened in X-4. The Wolverine/Gambit fights are always cool.
 
First thing's first... Gambit has to be too old for classes at the Mansion. We don't need teen Gambit. We need full grown adult Gambit.

I know that messes with Romy fans hopes. But too bad. Gambit needs to be at least portrayed as around the same age as Storm in the film.
 
First thing's first... Gambit has to be too old for classes at the Mansion. We don't need teen Gambit. We need full grown adult Gambit.

I know that messes with Romy fans hopes. But too bad. Gambit needs to be at least portrayed as around the same age as Storm in the film.

Seconded. Gambit is supposed to be one of the older X-men, not some whelp. He should be a guy who's made his own way in life; not some kid who still has no idea what he's doing. No one likes a Gambit being written that way: just look how much his popularity in the comics suffered when they started writing him that way.
 
First thing's first... Gambit has to be too old for classes at the Mansion. We don't need teen Gambit. We need full grown adult Gambit.

I know that messes with Romy fans hopes. But too bad. Gambit needs to be at least portrayed as around the same age as Storm in the film.
I disagree with that. Make him 24. Normally older than a student would be, but young enough that he should still take some classes before becoming a member of the X-Men. I still see Rogue as taking another year before becoming a teacher - they should go through a college-like training period before becoming full members of the staff, unless they're as old as Storm or Logan. I've calculated Rogue as having about 4 years at the school, the first of which was high school, so that means 3 years of post-high school training. Gambit, of course, has had none. He should have t least some training, even if it's not the full four years. Actually, even though Rogue had a year of training before being put on the X-Men team, I see Logan as putting Gambit on the team within a week. (He would have stayed behind like any other student; but knowing Gambit's fighting skills from their Danger Room brawl, Logan has him come along on their mission. He tells Storm that he trusts Gambit a lot more in a battle than home alone. This is part of that mistrust/respect thing I was talking about before).

canemacar said:
Seconded. Gambit is supposed to be one of the older X-men, not some whelp. He should be a guy who's made his own way in life; not some kid who still has no idea what he's doing. No one likes a Gambit being written that way: just look how much his popularity in the comics suffered when they started writing him that way.
I think that, done right, Gambit would be best as a young adult. I tweaked the Assassin's Guild storyline a little and made it into a teen gang thing, gave him about 4 years on the street before joining the Marauders for a few months, then another 1 1/2 years on the street before joining the X-Men. That's plenty of time to give him street cred, but also puts him at a good age to not be completely lost: he still has time to turn his life around, which he does in the X-Men. It, in many ways, makes him more sympathetic. Who would the average person warm up to faster? A full-grown, middle-aged adult who has spent his life as a thief and seducer; or a kid who's was rejected at 18 by everybody he knew, put out onto the streets, and forced to grow up much too fast?
 
I disagree with that. Make him 24. Normally older than a student would be, but young enough that he should still take some classes before becoming a member of the X-Men. I still see Rogue as taking another year before becoming a teacher - they should go through a college-like training period before becoming full members of the staff, unless they're as old as Storm or Logan. I've calculated Rogue as having about 4 years at the school, the first of which was high school, so that means 3 years of post-high school training. Gambit, of course, has had none. He should have t least some training, even if it's not the full four years. Actually, even though Rogue had a year of training before being put on the X-Men team, I see Logan as putting Gambit on the team within a week. (He would have stayed behind like any other student; but knowing Gambit's fighting skills from their Danger Room brawl, Logan has him come along on their mission. He tells Storm that he trusts Gambit a lot more in a battle than home alone. This is part of that mistrust/respect thing I was talking about before).

Nah. Making him a young guy who still has a lot to learn about the world and all that just walks right into the trap that's been killing the character for years in the comics. He needs to be a guy who's been around the block more than once and made some wrong turns while doing it. It's a crucial aspect of the character, taking that away is like taking away Logan's 100+ years of experience.

I think that, done right, Gambit would be best as a young adult. I tweaked the Assassin's Guild storyline a little and made it into a teen gang thing, gave him about 4 years on the street before joining the Marauders for a few months, then another 1 1/2 years on the street before joining the X-Men. That's plenty of time to give him street cred, but also puts him at a good age to not be completely lost: he still has time to turn his life around, which he does in the X-Men. It, in many ways, makes him more sympathetic. Who would the average person warm up to faster? A full-grown, middle-aged adult who has spent his life as a thief and seducer; or a kid who's was rejected at 18 by everybody he knew, put out onto the streets, and forced to grow up much too fast?

Again, I vehemently disagree. It doesn't give him any kind of cred and it isn't enough to convey the aura of experience and worldliness the character needs. It just makes him seem like some young idiot who's gotten in over his head.

And changing him just to make him sympathetic is wrong. The character *isn't* just a mis-guided kid like some Romy folks would have you believe. Gambit is a hardened criminal who knew what he was doing but didn't care until the Mutant Massacre gave him a metaphorical swift kick.
 
And changing him just to make him sympathetic is wrong. The character *isn't* just a mis-guided kid like some Romy folks would have you believe. Gambit is a hardened criminal who knew what he was doing but didn't care until the Mutant Massacre gave him a metaphorical swift kick.

Precisely... If Gambit is introduced into the films it needs to be done KIND OF (though not entirely) like what they did with Wolverine in X1. That meaning he'd essentially be around, yet independent from the team throughout the entire flick, more worried about his own interests than anything else.
 
it'd be a perfect story if they did the ultimate x-men storyline of bobby cheating on rogue with kitty, then becoming attracted to gambit, except he doesn't die.
 
it'd be a perfect story if they did the ultimate x-men storyline of bobby cheating on rogue with kitty, then becoming attracted to gambit, except he doesn't die.

No, no it wouldn't. That'd be so horribly cliche and knock off that'd wind up being a horrible failure.

And to do that Gambit's character would have to be relatively young... And that's something we've been arguing against.
 
He can have a lot experience and still be relatively young. The guy was raised as a thief. He can be 24,25,26 and still have that experience and worldliness. I don't like the idea of him being as old as Storm. Storm should see the potential in him to do good when no else trusts him, if he's as old as her i don't think their relationship would have the same affect. (yes i find the Storm/Gambit relationship important to their characters) I don't even care bout the Gambit/Rogue relationship.
 
He can have a lot experience and still be relatively young. The guy was raised as a thief. He can be 24,25,26 and still have that experience and worldliness. I don't like the idea of him being as old as Storm. Storm should see the potential in him to do good when no else trusts him, if he's as old as her i don't think their relationship would have the same affect. (yes i find the Storm/Gambit relationship important to their characters) I don't even care bout the Gambit/Rogue relationship.

Thats just trying to have your cake and eat it too. He can't be this college age kid and still be world-wise.

The decline of Gambit's character began when the writers stopped writing him like he was originally established (a majorly shady guy with a lot of life-experience) and started writing him like the perfect imaginary boyfriend for lonely girls (pretty, super-loyal, dangerous but not really, no major flaws, etc) and you're making the same mistake here: you're turning Gambit into Legolas!
 
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