Age of Ultron The Official Scarlet Witch Thread - Part 1

[universeman]

Ok how about we change the subject I hear Ultron will be the villain.

 

[Pond]

Incest is only incest when it is adults having sex with minors. I have no problem with two adult relatives making out with each other.

Not quite. Adults having sex with minors is called statutory rape. Adults having sex with prebubescents is called pedophilia. Incest is sexual interaction between family members or close relatives.

Of course all of this is far more complex, with many people using some of it allmost interchangeably, laws are diferent in every country, and so are legal definitions, and the morality or legality of it all is as complicated as the body and psyche get when you are growing up... But incest has NOTHING to do with age.

As for having a problem with... Its all debatable, and morally, a personal question. But you have to remember that, right or wrong, in many countries incest is a crime, and we can not deny the fact that the offspring of genetically close parents has a far bigger risk of suffering of congenital disorders.

 

[Persistence]

Or you can watch Olsen [BLACKOUT]make out with her father[/BLACKOUT] in Old boy.

OMG the reveal at the end of the movie had me like....

In fact I actually stood up with my hand over my mouth going no No NO!!! The people beside me were too shocked to care.

I wasn't as animated, but this is how I felt watching Chinatown a few years back. I remember standing up with confused look on face when the climax twist was presented.

Why is Marvel going this route with touchy feeling stuff? I guess Marvel's motto should be "anything goes"

 

[Majik1387]

Marvel is not going that route; ATJ and Olsen are going that approach. With that said, we're really only speculating as to how close the closeness their references are. Majority of us do not want the incest vibe.

 

[universeman]

That's why they have Vision

 

[Drizzle]

I think we're putting a little bit too much thought into the whole incest angle. Let that crap stay in the Ultimate universe. They're going to have a close relationship, sure, but if Disney shot down letting Shane Black use the Demon in a Bottle storyline for Iron Man 3, do you really think they're going to allow incestuous overtones between Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver? If you really want to see them kiss, there's always Godzilla.

 

[jaymes_e06]

I don't think it will be incestuous as much as just "twin behaviour." look at the Olsen Twins for instance ironically enough. They are always so close and holding hands. It is just a bond that twins tend to have that is different than most siblings relationships.

 

[Majik1387]

BTW, we only bring up incest because it is in the Ultimate version of the characters, and we know that the Ultimates is a big reference point with the MCU. If it didn't exist in the comics, I guarantee none of us would have brought it up.

 

[Wine-N-Cheese]

It's silly to think a mainstream popcorn film will include incest. I mean, Hulk is a cannibal in the Ult U, and Cap is jingoistic, but they didn't add those things.

People overstate the influence of the Ultimates on the MCU. They've really only taken the superficial aspects, like character backgrounds, costumes, etc.

 

[Smashlilman]

BTW, we only bring up incest because it is in the Ultimate version of the characters, and we know that the Ultimates is a big reference point with the MCU. If it didn't exist in the comics, I guarantee none of us would have brought it up.

Pretty much it was an off and on running gag against the 616 version because they where a little to close and intimate. When the Ultimates came around Mark Miller decided to take it that Unfortunate extra step but almost everyone in the Ultimates Universe is F-up.

Ultimate Hulk = Cannibal and rapist.

Ultimate Captain America is xenophoic.

 

[The Endless]

That's not Hulk, that's Blob. Even though yea, Hulk did want to eat Freddie Prinze Jr lol

And they won't be incestuous, don't be stupid. But Johnson has said he is very protective over Wanda. I imagine aggressively over-protective. Initially at least.

 

[Smashlilman]

That's not Hulk, that's Blob. Even though yea, Hulk did want to eat Freddie Prinze Jr lol

And they won't be incestuous, don't be stupid. But Johnson has said he is very protective over Wanda. I imagine aggressively over-protective. Initially at least.

Your right about that eating image. I think its from Marvel Zombies. I can't find the one where he take a chunk out of Abom. Here is the one where the tries to eat stark.

 

[Loki882]

To be fair, even Mark Millar only HINTED at it. It was Jeph Loeb who flat-out made it official. WOW, I just praised Mark freaking Millar for being subtle, that shows you just how crappy Ultimates 3 was as a story.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

Ok how about we change the subject I hear Ultron will be the villain.

Oh Yes! And he's still a robot!

 

[TheVision]

@ "You think this letter on my head stands for FRANCE?!"

 

[Loki882]

Yeah, that Mark Millar for you, all the tact and subtlety of a brick to the face. Also, all of his characters tend to be massive A-holes. Of course Cap has to be a jingnostic *****e, there's no way that he could possibly be more enlightened than that, having fought alongside the French Resistance during WWII and all that.

 

[TeeKay]

I think we're putting a little bit too much thought into the whole incest angle. Let that crap stay in the Ultimate universe. They're going to have a close relationship, sure, but if Disney shot down letting Shane Black use the Demon in a Bottle storyline for Iron Man 3, do you really think they're going to allow incestuous overtones between Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver? If you really want to see them kiss, there's always Godzilla.

Wait what? Do you have a link for this?

 

[John Locke]

I thought it was shot down for Iron Man 2? Was it shot down twice?

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Drizzle]

Wait what? Do you have a link for this?

http://www.dailysuperhero.com/2013/04/iron-man-3-demon-in-bottle-comic-story.html

 

[AvengerPA]

Kevin Feige gives us more information on the twins:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07...f-future-past?abthid=53ce98263fa2299071000016

Feige continued, "We are very much playing up two things that [Days of Future Past doesn't] play with: one is his relationship with his twin sister, Wanda; the other is, his backstory as an Eastern European child of a war-torn country, and we follow him throughout the whole movie -- him and Wanda -- as it relates to their feelings about the Avengers and how that shifts and changes over the course of the movie. So it's a very different thing than coming out from one, unbelievably awesome showcase sequence of the movie, and much more interwoven throughout the entire movie."

 

[TheVision]

QS will be a fully developed character, and he wont be a goofball like in DOFP. Itll be more serious. The SFX should look awesome, Joss picked him partly for that and we know they have crazy stuff they can do now.

 

[The Endless]

That sounds interesting. Like Pietro and Wanda's feelings towards the Avengers could be a microcosm of the worlds feelings towards them.

 

[DA_Champion]

Kevin Feige gives us more information on the twins:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07...f-future-past?abthid=53ce98263fa2299071000016

Feige continued, "We are very much playing up two things that [Days of Future Past doesn't] play with: one is his relationship with his twin sister, Wanda; the other is, his backstory as an Eastern European child of a war-torn country, and we follow him throughout the whole movie -- him and Wanda -- as it relates to their feelings about the Avengers and how that shifts and changes over the course of the movie. So it's a very different thing than coming out from one, unbelievably awesome showcase sequence of the movie, and much more interwoven throughout the entire movie."

Good for you Feige for not being a coward like Bryan Singer.

We'll be getting Pietro in Avengers 2... not Peter.

 

[Loki882]

"A coward." Really dude, you really going with that nonsense? How sad.