The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[GreenKToo]

Whoever gets it, you can bet the bank that nolan will make sure he not only looks the part, but can act as well.

 

[dulcetpine]

truthfully, i can accept someone whom doesn't "look the part" as per the comics or previous incarnations as long as he can act well enough to make us believe he is superman.

ie he doesn't need to be a barrel chested 6'4 behemoth with a square jaw and a silly spit curl. i just want to see someone with an emotional range as an actor, with a decent enough physique so as to not look like a twig in the tights, and the ability to exude simultaneously both confidence and humility.

 

[dulcetpine]

This is just an interesting option to me... He looks both otherworldly (which superman is), intimidating, as well as inconspicuous. He would definitely blend as Clark Kent...

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

From what I heard, and I hope it's wrong, the studio is looking at actors who don't have the Superman look. They don't really care about the look (height, face, proportions etc)..

Probably why they approved of DJ Cotrona (5'9) in Justice League Mortal for Superman

However, Nolan is a major traditionalist. I'm sure he'll find some American actor with the Superman physical proportions, like Donner did for Reeve.



If Bryan Singer didn't insist on an unknown and go for Brandon Routh, it's scary to think who the WB suits would have shoehorned into the Superman role. I don't think they're as privy to the physical aspects of these characters.

Heck, they went after Gosling and Casey Affleck for Hal Jordan .. and Justin Timberlake and Jared Leto came very close to getting the part in the finals.

At least we've moved on from the days when they wanted Jack Black as GL... but slow progress never the less.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

He would definitely blend as Clark Kent...

No he wouldn't.

His features and voice are so damn obvious. He didn't even lower/change it as Spock.

Him and Chris Pine will remain where they belong. With Paramount.

 

[dulcetpine]

No he wouldn't.

His features and voice are so damn obvious. He didn't even lower/change it as Spock.

Him and Chris Pine will remain where they belong. With Paramount.

How are his features any more obvious than a model with a 6'4 220 lb frame with bright blue eyes? No matter the disguise here the person would be noticed, and likely the identity discovered by anyone whom has better than 20/80 vision.

Quinto is my front runner at the moment because he looks nothing like Reeves or Routh or Welling or Cain. He can act pretty well, also. To me, while his feature are certainly identifiable, his look is such that a pair of thick glasses could more easily disguise him that the above listed man.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Quinto's great, but a gay actor playing Superman is not the type of publicity DC needs. It's gonna cause a huge uproar, one can even imagine people in the bible belt boycotting it.

I wish it wasn't so, but it would be courting controversy.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Quinto's great, but a gay actor playing Superman is not the type of publicity DC needs. It's gonna cause a huge uproar, one can even imagine people in the bible belt boycotting it.

I wish it wasn't so, but it would be courting controversy.

I wasnt supposed discuss this but there is actually more truth behind that than you think, especially from Warner Bros perspective.

And especially regarding a certain 5"11 actor

 

[Hole Shot]

He was brought up before, many times in the older threads.

He got dismissed for being:

1) Not American

2) Only 5"11

This like when people complain that someone doesn't have the same natural hair color as the character.

As long as he's not short or has a slender frame to go with it, being 5'11" shouldn't be that much of a concern. It's not hard to make him look tall, especially when 5'11" isn't short by Hollywood standards. He'd have a height advantage over most his co-stars without the use of FX or standing on a box.

 

[betamox]

I seriously doubt casting hamm would make it lose appeal. If anything, I think it would show that they're serious about getting an actor that can....I dunno....actually ''act''.
Now, if they were to cast a nic cage, then thats a different story...

Maybe not for everyone as a whole but i personally wouldn't be interested in a Superman film he was in. And nothing is going to change that for me.

 

[dulcetpine]

Quinto's great, but a gay actor playing Superman is not the type of publicity DC needs. It's gonna cause a huge uproar, one can even imagine people in the bible belt boycotting it.

I wish it wasn't so, but it would be courting controversy.

Give me a break. He is an actor. And you expect me to believe that being gay is bad publicity? C'mon now, this isn't 1950.

If the 'bible belt' has a problem with it, who really cares? They aren't the majority. If they boycott a film because the lead actor is gay then shame on them. A vast majority of people in this country wouldn't care (because we have real problems to worry about). There are millions of gay individuals in this country, many of whom are superman fans.

Not to mention the fact that he is playing a heterosexual in the movie. If superman himself was made gay, that could be a different matter altogether, but that wouldn't happen.

Non issue.

 

[GreenKToo]

@ betamox.. I hear ya, I feel the same way about some other choices going around. I'm sure wb wouldnt miss my 20 bucks tho if I just skipped it because I didnt get who I wanted in the role.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Look, I don't have to give you a break. I know there are millions of gay people in this country, my sister and her wife count for 2 of them. Fact remains that as much as I or you may see it as a non issue, the Fox News people, the southern baptists, the god hates **** and whatever other hate group you could think of will raise a mighty stink.

I can imagine the headlines now about Superman going after Jimmy instead of Lois.

Same reason Matt Boomer will never be Superman. Look at the fight gay marriage is having now, you think that the newshounds won't jump all over this in all the wrong ways.

 

[Hole Shot]

His sexuality doesn't play a big enough role in his celebrity status for people to even notice. And his sexual preference is fairly low key, ambiguous and open to interpretation - the only thing out there is that he openly and actively campaigns for gay rights, as do many other well known hetero people in Hollywood.

 

[dulcetpine]

Chicken, I wasn't asking you personally to give me a break, that was a figure of speech. I hope you didn't think I was making any assumptions as to your personal stance on the issue...

I just don't feel like we should worry about the people you listed, aka the lunatic fringe. We need not walk on eggshells all the time worrying about how they will react to things. One this is guaranteed if we do that, they win. Seriously, they want the world to conform to their f***** up view of it, just like any other religious extremist. The rest of us suffer for it.

I don't really think this is the forum to discuss this, so i will refrain from here, having said really all i need to on the subject.

I continue think however, that he would make a pretty good casting choice for his acting intangibles and general look. All the other stuff doesn't matter to me.

 

[louiebling$]

Quinto is gay


Doesn't matter to me the man is a great actor

 

[louiebling$]

Quinto is gay


Doesn't matter to me the man is a great actor

 

[ChickenScratch]

Chicken, I wasn't asking you personally to give me a break, that was a figure of speech. I hope you didn't think I was making any assumptions as to your personal stance on the issue...
I just don't feel like we should worry about the people you listed, aka the lunatic fringe. We need not walk on eggshells all the time worrying about how they will react to things. One this is guaranteed if we do that, they win. Seriously, they want the world to conform to their f***** up view of it, just like any other religious extremist. The rest of us suffer for it.
I don't really think this is the forum to discuss this, so i will refrain from here, having said really all i need to on the subject.
I continue think however, that he would make a pretty good casting choice for his acting intangibles and general look. All the other stuff doesn't matter to me.

This lunatic fringe, as small as you may think they are do exert a large amount of force. Hell, just this year we lost a congressman who was a member of the KKK (Robert Byrd). The government from the top down is way more religious than we would like to believe and their attitudes are a lot further from progressive than we would like to think our officials are. These loonies have politicians, news outlets, even entire cities under control. Ever been to South Carolina?

I'm all about Brandon Routh remaining Superman, but on the off chance that Zack could get it, it would become a media firestorm that DC could not weather. I can see the media badmouthing it from casting to release and even further, I can see families not letting their kids read Superman anymore if it were to happen. I may be an alarmist, but these people managed to block gay marriage (something that has nothing to do with them, only the 2 people getting married) for so many years.

 

[Hole Shot]

Ian McKlellan is as openly gay as they come in Hollywood and has been for a long time. That had no effect on Lord of the Rings, which has a much more family targeted audience than this likely will and very popular with Christians.

That was released a decade ago and over that time homosexuality has become even more accepted in mainstream entertainment. Will and Grace had it's run, Modern Family, Queer Eye, etc. How I Met Your Mother was never hurt by Neil Patrick Harris being openly gay. And there's more examples out there.

The backlash you're worrying about only comes when people get that paranoia that their children are being indoctrinated with homosexuality. The silly fear that gay people are out to turn their kids gay!!!

I don't think you're going to have worry about that so much with a possibly gay actor playing a very hetero masculine hero.

"The God Hates ****" people you referred to, that's the Westboro Baptist Church. They're a radical fringe group that you only know about because they get attention for being so offensive. Most evangelical and conservative Christians stay clear and distance of them. Being concerned about their influence if a gay actor is cast, would be like being concerned about neo-nazi (and there is probably more of them than members of the Westboro Church) backlash if a Jewish actor were cast.

 

[ChickenScratch]

The past tense of cast is still cast. This isn't fishing, it's film.

 

[Hole Shot]

The past tense of cast is still cast. This isn't fishing, it's film.

And I happen to enjoy both. I'm just stoked you spotted my typos, wasn't sure if people actually read the junk I write.

 

[ALP]

For me it's all or nothing. If they're going to keep Routh then I also want Bosworth and Spacey back as well.

 

[ChickenScratch]

And I happen to enjoy both. I'm just stoked you spotted my typos, wasn't sure if people actually read the junk I write.

I was just messing with you.

 

[BruceWanner]

IMO this is the only pic or manip of Mangianello that has ever made me think he looked like Superman. Also, I could maybe see him as Superman, but I have a hard time imagining him pulling off Clark.

 

[That-Guy]

YES SIR MR. THAT-GUY!!! I guess that means that I'm not even allowed to come in here, since I have "his" name in my name and all. Get over yourself, man. Plus you said his name in a thread where his name is to never be mentioned, so I guess you disobeyed they rule, too. I'm sure that I will get reprimanded, but whatever.

Christ, don't take things so personally.