The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[Man of Tomorrow]

I know he was never looked at for any project but I'm thinking he was mentioned quite a bit on SHH back in 07 or 08. Maybe I'm wrong.

Well yeah.

Obviously he was mentioned by fanboys on the boards in 2007 when Mad Men gained popularity.

Hamm's been fancasted for everything on the boards, Caviezel-style.



But he was never in the running for Superman prior. Hamm was essentially nothing before 2007.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Routh wasn't one of the rejects. He actually won the role and was tight with the higher Warners brass for years. Different situation.

i understand that he wasn't one of the rejects (DUH!) but the fact that he's already associated with the failed Superman Returns, imo, makes him even less likely to be recast than any of the other actors who didn't make the cut since he IS the face of SR. if the Nolans indeed want to differentiate their Superman from SR, then the best and obvious way to do that is to go with a new face.

And Jamie/Show posted some time back that the previous Superman rejects (Bomer, Fraser, Cavill, Padelecki, etc) would not be in the running this time.

not that i doubt Showtime (i have my reservations about Jamie) but i don't understand this logic. Routh, who is affiliated with the previous failed movie, is still in the running yet none of the runners up who never showed their faces as Superman are NOT?? that simply doesn't make sense from a practical, artistic, nor business standpoint.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

We don't know Routh's status for Superman one way or the other at this point.

It could go either way, since this isn't a reboot, just a standalone Superman film.

We'll have the answers soon enough.


All I'm saying is he's in a different situation compared to the actors that were previously considered/tested and didn't make the cut.

 

[Superark]

Ryan McPartlin won't be in the running.

He already tried out for Superman Returns and lost out to Brandon.

Basically none of the rejects from the old casting days will be in the mix this time around.



Judging McPartlin as a Superman candidate, I can't see him pulling it off. He's not the type of actor that can do serious roles. His character on Chuck is essentially a walking parody of himself.

Had no idea he tried out for Superman before

 

[db85usa]

While this is not the best clip of Harmon Walsh, it's better than nothing. Judging on the voice acting here alone, there is potential when it comes to Supes.

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[Man of Tomorrow]

Bale had the same type of lisp. It was no big deal.

 

[db85usa]

delete.

 

[db85usa]

Bale had the same type of lisp. It was no big deal.

Yeah he did. I just posted that clip for people to get a general idea of the fact that actors have the ability to change the tone of their voice just like we all do here, lol.

 

[dulcetpine]

Most of the ideas for casting for the big guy haven't been exciting for me. The Walsh guy has a creepiness to him, and not in a good way, in an marrying a family member kind of way... haha, i dont' know how else to say it.

Nolans version of Superman is what I am trying to take a guess at, because we all have our own, and being that he is the one who is steering where the Superman franchise will go, it is his vision we will ultimately see. One person that I would have never thought of until I had seen it elsewhere was Zachary Quinto. He doesn't necessarily look like the superman we've come to know, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

That being said, my personal preference is still Routh, but I know that will not happen.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Quinto takes creepy to a whole new level.

Kirk and Spock should NOT be Superman.

 

[dulcetpine]

Quinto takes creepy to a whole new level.

Kirk and Spock should NOT be Superman.

Creepy, or otherworldly? His look is such that as Superman, he'd garner attention due to his powers and presence, but as Clark, he could easily fold into a crowd and go unnoticed... how else can we buy into that disguise?

Remember, I am just trying to figure out who Nolan would cast, not whom I would cast. Though Zach piques my curiosity as to what he could bring to the role...

 

[DorkyFresh]

Quinto is too weird looking to play Superman, but would make a great Bizarro to Routh's Superman. they sorta look alike.

 

[db85usa]

We don't know Routh's status for Superman one way or the other at this point.

It could go either way, since this isn't a reboot, just a standalone Superman film.

We'll have the answers soon enough.


All I'm saying is he's in a different situation compared to the actors that were previously considered/tested and didn't make the cut.

While there's no official word on whether or not he will come back, and since his contract expired, ultimately it's really up to WB and whether or not they want to take the risk of paying him more money just to come back. It could turn into a nasty financial tug-o-war (Routh asking for too much $ like previous actors from previous projects, just saying.) Not to mention, it would take a lot of bargaining/negotiations from Nolan and Co. as to why should WB let them recast Routh as Supes and why would they want him to reprise the role in a totally different story?

I'm not opposed to it but realistically speaking, because of the financial failure that was SR, I believe it's highly unlikely he'll be asked to come back. As much as I'd love to see it happen, I really don't think it's a possibility. Less than a year after Routh's contract expired, we got news Nolan is godfathering the next Superman project. What does that tell us? That maybe WB waited to make their move and with Nolan on board now, why not stick with the status quo and keep moving things forward?

New writers, new story, new producer(s), new director, new film composer(s), new supporting actors, new lead actors. Though we can't necessarily call it a reboot or restart, I'll call it a reintroduction because that's really what happened to the Batman franchise. Everything was reintroduced and Nolan put his own spin on it. He created a version of Bats that had never been put onscreen. That's kind of what I'm expecting for Superman too.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

While there's no official word on whether or not he will come back, and since his contract expired, ultimately it's really up to WB and whether or not they want to take the risk of paying him more money just to come back. It could turn into a nasty financial tug-o-war (Routh asking for too much $ like previous actors from previous projects, just saying.) Not to mention, it would take a lot of bargaining/negotiations from Nolan and Co. as to why should WB let them recast Routh as Supes and why would they want him to reprise the role in a totally different story?

A new contract doesn't mean they'd need to pay him more than SR. There's no risk in the contractual aspect.

They paid him quite little for SR, only one million. They could probably get away with something like that again. A big name like Hamm however, probably not as easy. I'm sure Reynold's salary for GL is obviously heavier.

BR seems to want it regardless of the money. He wants it because he loves Superman, and he's clearly a nerd for these comicbook roles.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Routh's problem isn't his greed (he seems like a genuinely nice guy). his biggest obstacle is his association with a project that is looked down upon.

 

[dulcetpine]

New writers, new story, new producer(s), new director, new film composer(s), new supporting actors, new lead actors. Though we can't necessarily call it a reboot or restart, I'll call it a reintroduction because that's really what happened to the Batman franchise. Everything was reintroduced and Nolan put his own spin on it. He created a version of Bats that had never been put onscreen. That's kind of what I'm expecting for Superman too.

He is smart enough to pick a superman with acting chops, i am confident with that. i wonder if he feels beholden to the cannon of superman, IE tall, dark, clean cut with blue eyes, or if he wants to add a new fold to the cannon. all iterations of superman are more or less similar, at least that I have seen. I wouldn't mind having the foundation shook there. Whom does he envision as his superman?

Aspects that can't be trifled with too much without a riot from the fans are the suit and sense of duty and responsibility.

 

[Boom]

How about Matt Bomer?

 

[dulcetpine]

How about Matt Bomer?

He looks a bit like all the other choices, doesn't he?

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Aspects that can't be trifled with too much without a riot from the fans are the suit and sense of duty and responsibility.

More to it than that.

The physical resemblence by the actor is just as big.

Routh took TONS of criticism before the film came out for being 'too skinny' and 'too young-looking' for the role in the 04/05 days.

So much so, that Brandon himself continually mentioned the fanboy criticism in interviews.


Whoever is filling the red boots really needs to fit the physical mold of the character.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

He's too small for supes.

 

[MadVillainy]

I hope whatever actor they choose that he's younger 20s early 30s.

 

[Boom]

He's 5'11.5"...

It wouldn't be that difficult to make him look a few inches taller. Besides, is height really a dealbreaker here - especially when it comes down to a matter of inches?

 

[dulcetpine]

More to it than that.

The physical resemblence by the actor is just as big.

Routh took TONS of criticism before the film came out for being 'too skinny' and 'too young-looking' for the role in the 04/05 days.

So much so, that Brandon himself continually mentioned the fanboy criticism in interviews.


Whoever is filling the red boots really needs to fit the physical mold of the character.

To some he does, but what do we think Nolan's take is on that? Who superman is as a man and a hero, and to a certain degree his suit are to me the only things that can't be changed. he doesn't have to look like chris reeve, and he doesn't need to be a body builder. he has muscles in the comics because that is the style of the art medium, but if his powers are derived merely from living on this earth then he probably wouldn't be ripped because why would he need to be?

personally, i think as much as i associate chris reeves with superman, we need to move on from actors that look like him in some way, otherwise superman cannot evolve.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Nolan is a traditionalist.

He isn't going to change the comics.

We already know the script is based on John Byrne's "Man of Steel." It's doubtful Superman will be radically reinterpreted like some Tim Burton flopshow this time around.

 

[MadVillainy]

I think Bomer should get his own seperate thread like the others, but...


To me Superman/Clark's height is part of his identity. I really think that whoever plays Superman should be at least 6'3. If you look at most if not all animated/comic Superman media he towers over people or is at least visibally very tall.

Any other role I'm fine with an actor using lifts but with Superman (and Thor) you should get tall actors similar in build to Armie Hammer, Alexander Skarsgaard, Jared Padelecki, Routh, Welling. Tall, big framed actors.

Nolan is a traditionalist.

He isn't going to change the comics.

We already know the script is based on John Byrne's "Man of Steel." It's doubtful Superman will be radically reinterpreted like some Tim Burton flopshow this time around.

Woah when was this announced