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The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

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Just my opinion, but Manganiello is by far the crappiest idea for Supes so far. Again, imo.





I think Hammer and Joe M would both be terrible choices and huge reaches to play Superman.

Hammer is too young at 24 and looks too soft...oh and he isn't American is he? :oldrazz:

Joe M is not a very good actor, has no charisma from what I can see from watching True Blood, and his face and nose ruin it for me.
 
I think Hammer and Joe M would both be terrible choices and huge reaches to play Superman.

Hammer is too young at 24 and looks too soft...oh and he isn't American is he? :oldrazz:

Joe M is not a very good actor, has no charisma from what I can see from watching True Blood, and his face and nose ruin it for me.
:dry:dude was born and raised in LA,California
 
Again, most moviegoers don't have that kind of issue with it. There's precedent for it with movies that were bigger than any of these movies ever will be. If it happened to be Jackman, people would be fine with it in concept. they don't keep comic fanboy scorecards on them at all times. It won't be any harder to take than Batman being John Connor, or Deadpool being Green Lantern, or the 6' 3" guy who played the normally 5' 3" Wolverine playing Superman, or whoever being whatever else. It's just movies.

I doubt it.

They would just see "the guy who played Wolverine playing Superman" , his look just jumps out at you too much through his role.

I think he has a good face for it, and the right build (interestingly its about the exact same build as Joe Manganeillo) and Hugh is 6'3".

The issue I have with him is how I think even I would be having to spend the whole movie reminding myself I am watching Superman, and not Wolverine.

If they were able to make him look distinctly different enough as Superman, I MAY be able to buy it.

Offhand, I think it would make it much harder to suspend disbelief with anyone I have become too accustomed to seeing in other roles.
 
Those of you who think Jon Hamm would allegedly be "too old" to play Superman.....remember Michael Keaton doing a fine job as Batman in 1989?

Then of course more recently with IronMan, Downey Jr was older than Hamm is when he was cast as Stark and I didn't hear anyone complaining and whining then?

Regardless, in the next film we need to see an actor who can play SuperMAN, not SuperBOY!


I think Hammer and Joe M would both be terrible choices and huge reaches to play Superman.

Hammer is too young at 24 and looks too soft.

Joe M is not a very good actor, has no charisma from what I can see from watching True Blood, and his face and nose ruin it for me.
 
Just my opinion, but Manganiello is by far the crappiest idea for Supes so far. Again, imo.

Sam Worthington
Tom Welling
Channing Tatum
Paul Walker
Brandon Routh
DJ Cotrona
Victor Webster
Ashton Kutcher


All far worse than Joe, IMO.
 
Those of you who think Jon Hamm would allegedly be "too old" to play Superman.....remember Michael Keaton doing a fine job as Batman in 1989?

Then of course more recently with IronMan, Downey Jr was older than Hamm is when he was cast as Stark and I didn't hear anyone complaining and whining then?

Regardless, in the next film we need to see an actor who can play SuperMAN, not SuperBOY!


I think Hammer and Joe M would both be terrible choices and huge reaches to play Superman.

Hammer is too young at 24 and looks too soft.

Joe M is not a very good actor, has no charisma from what I can see from watching True Blood, and his face and nose ruin it for me.
 
I think Hammer and Joe M would both be terrible choices and huge reaches to play Superman.

Hammer is too young at 24 and looks too soft...oh and he isn't American is he? :oldrazz:

Joe M is not a very good actor, has no charisma from what I can see from watching True Blood, and his face and nose ruin it for me.

In your OPINION he is a bad actor.

Quit stating it like its a fact, the mods have already asked people to stop saying actors are "bad actors" for that reason. Its not factual, and is an opinion.

Stating someone's height or build is more factual. Saying he has a nose that needs the makeup team to fill the dent on the left side is perfectly fair.

You just don't like his nose so you reach by calling him a bad actor.

Well, in my opinion, his acting is just fine, and he does have charisma on True Blood.
 
I personally wasn't that fond of Keaton as Batman or Bruce Wayne.

I always saw Iron Man as an older guy...and RDJ fit the part the way I saw him.
 
In your OPINION he is a bad actor.

Quit stating it like its a fact, the mods have already asked people to stop saying actors are "bad actors" for that reason. Its not factual, and is an opinion.

Stating someone's height or build is more factual. Saying he has a nose that needs the makeup team to fill the dent on the left side is perfectly fair.

You just don't like his nose so you reach by calling him a bad actor.

Well, in my opinion, his acting is just fine, and he does have charisma on True Blood.







IMO....Joe M is not a good actor and would suck as Superman.

That better for ya?

There has to be far better choices than that guy out there to play Supes.
 
I personally wasn't that fond of Keaton as Batman or Bruce Wayne.

I always saw Iron Man as an older guy...and RDJ fit the part the way I saw him.






It's all subjective.....if someone wants to see Superman as a 25 year old pretty boy, than that's on them.

If someone sees Superman as a 35 to 40 year old mature looking Superman, than that's their view.
 
It's all subjective.....if someone wants to see Superman as a 25 year old pretty boy, than that's on them.

If someone sees Superman as a 35 to 40 year old mature looking Superman, than that's their view.

What has that got to with my post you quoted?
 
IMO....Joe M is not a good actor and would suck as Superman.

That better for ya?

There has to be far better choices than that guy out there to play Supes.

Yeah, that is much better.

In My Opinon he's a fine actor, the dent on his nose is an easy fix, and he is a great choice for the part.

:woot:
 
In your OPINION he is a bad actor.

Quit stating it like its a fact, the mods have already asked people to stop saying actors are "bad actors" for that reason. Its not factual, and is an opinion.

Stating someone's height or build is more factual. Saying he has a nose that needs the makeup team to fill the dent on the left side is perfectly fair.

You just don't like his nose so you reach by calling him a bad actor.

Well, in my opinion, his acting is just fine, and he does have charisma on True Blood.

Ummm ... seriously, these are forums -- practically anything and everything said here is an opinion. I don't see why people need to keep saying IMO or IMHO in front of every comment they make. We know these are opinions; most of us respect each other's opinions, and we also debate the views. That's why this a FORUM.

Listen, Joe's acting isn't bad but it's not particularly great, either. He's another good-looking ho-hum actor who got his part mostly because of how he looks without that shirt. That he can also act a little is icing on the cake. Joe's acting range is similar to where Tom's was at the early stages of Smallville. On that note, I'm not in the camp that thinks Tom's acting has gotten much better. He certainly emotes a little more but he's still a stick most of the time.

I think what Dark Knight and some other posters are saying is that they'd really like to see a Superman film carried equally by its acting as well as by the action. Returns wanted to rely on acting, but it cast some of the worst actors (Bosworth, an uninspired Spacey) and an inexperienced Routh in what was supposed to be an established Superman.

So now we've got Snyder but action rarely is the centerpiece of a Nolan/Goyer script. There's typically a huge responsibility on the actors to get the job done on the dialogue (and as this is a Nolan film, I expect lots of dialogue from the leads). That requires great actors. It's no coincidence that Nolan's films have actors like Caine, Neeson, Bale, Freeman, DiCaprio, Page, etc. These are superb actors with a reputation for delivering amazing performances.

Joe doesn't fit the bill. Hamm does. The guy's been nominated left and right for best performance by practically every awards show in the US. And he recently won a Golden Globe for best male actor. This is the kind of resume Nolan prefers, and given the tightrope this film is walking on the production side, it's the kind of resume that offers guarantees that Hamm will deliver what Nolan/Snyder need to meet crucial deadlines.

That, and Hamm has been in a number of films now. He's in The Street and he's in Sucker Punch. He knows the drill. Joe's only done TV, and any actor will tell you that production for movies and TV are world's apart.

I think at the end all of us want a great Superman film, and that's why we want to see the best ACTORS play these parts. Sure, Joe might be a great actor some day, but I don't want to test-pilot him on Superman. All of us have waited too darn long for the Superman movie we can all get around. I want assurances, and at least Hamm gives me that assurance. It's like if Nolan cast Nicole Kidman as Lois (which won't happen, but bear with me). Sure, some of us would be angry, but at least we'd know we'd get an Oscar quality performance.

Hamm has the benefit of looking like Superman (Remember Ross openly wanted him for Captain America) and he's a great actor. On a stand-alone Superman movie that needs to deliver action AND acting -- and is probably more aimed at an older viewing audience (face it, tweens/teens aren't making up the box office anymore, folks -- there's a reason why Willis, Stallone, and company are showing up again), Hamm is also the best bet to draw in the most money and win over the 30-somethings and baby boomers who grew up on Chris Reeves and George Reeves (and yes, these groups have the spending power now).

My bet remains on Hamm. And as for Joe, he can try out for the part when the WB has to re-boot again after it resolves the licensing dispute with the Shuster Estate, which I'm sure will make Joe about 30 by the time the next Superman movie happens (if even then).
 
Another example is Jackman. He is going on 43 years of age and is still playing Wolverine.

No one is complaining about age there.

Ed Norton is slightly younger and he played Bruce Banner?

Mark Ruffalo is older than all of them and he is a replacement for Banner in The Avengers also.
 
Ummm ... seriously, these are forums -- practically anything and everything said here is an opinion. I don't see why people need to keep saying IMO or IMHO in front of every comment they make. We know these are opinions; most of us respect each other's opinions, and we also debate the views. That's why this a FORUM.

Listen, Joe's acting isn't bad but it's not particularly great, either. He's another good-looking ho-hum actor who got his part mostly because of how he looks without that shirt. That he can also act a little is icing on the cake. Joe's acting range is similar to where Tom's was at the early stages of Smallville. On that note, I'm not in the camp that thinks Tom's acting has gotten much better. He certainly emotes a little more but he's still a stick most of the time.

I think what Dark Knight and some other posters are saying is that they'd really like to see a Superman film carried equally by its acting as well as by the action. Returns wanted to rely on acting, but it cast some of the worst actors (Bosworth, an uninspired Spacey) and an inexperienced Routh in what was supposed to be an established Superman.

So now we've got Snyder but action rarely is the centerpiece of a Nolan/Goyer script. There's typically a huge responsibility on the actors to get the job done on the dialogue (and as this is a Nolan film, I expect lots of dialogue from the leads). That requires great actors. It's no coincidence that Nolan's films have actors like Caine, Neeson, Bale, Freeman, DiCaprio, Page, etc. These are superb actors with a reputation for delivering amazing performances.

Joe doesn't fit the bill. Hamm does. The guy's been nominated left and right for best performance by practically every awards show in the US. And he recently won a Golden Globe for best male actor. This is the kind of resume Nolan prefers, and given the tightrope this film is walking on the production side, it's the kind of resume that offers guarantees that Hamm will deliver what Nolan/Snyder need to meet crucial deadlines.

That, and Hamm has been in a number of films now. He's in The Street and he's in Sucker Punch. He knows the drill. Joe's only done TV, and any actor will tell you that production for movies and TV are world's apart.

I think at the end all of us want a great Superman film, and that's why we want to see the best ACTORS play these parts. Sure, Joe might be a great actor some day, but I don't want to test-pilot him on Superman. All of us have waited too darn long for the Superman movie we can all get around. I want assurances, and at least Hamm gives me that assurance. It's like if Nolan cast Nicole Kidman as Lois (which won't happen, but bear with me). Sure, some of us would be angry, but at least we'd know we'd get an Oscar quality performance.

Hamm has the benefit of looking like Superman (Remember Ross openly wanted him for Captain America) and he's a great actor. On a stand-alone Superman movie that needs to deliver action AND acting -- and is probably more aimed at an older viewing audience (face it, tweens/teens aren't making up the box office anymore, folks -- there's a reason why Willis, Stallone, and company are showing up again), Hamm is also the best bet to draw in the most money and win over the 30-somethings and baby boomers who grew up on Chris Reeves and George Reeves (and yes, these groups have the spending power now).

My bet remains on Hamm. And as for Joe, he can try out for the part when the WB has to re-boot again after it resolves the licensing dispute with the Shuster Estate, which I'm sure will make Joe about 30 by the time the next Superman movie happens (if even then).






:up:

Great post on why Hamm has the majority of the qualities WB's, Tull, Nolan, and Snyder will be looking for in the actor they will want to play Clark Kent/Superman.
 
Jon Hamm as Clark Kent/Superman
Rachel Weisz as Lois Lane

These two would work for me.
 
I want an older looking Superman. I enjoyed Superman Returns well enough, but something about an older, wiser looking Superman has more appeal to me. Someone like Jon Hamm fills those requirements IMO.
 
Ummm ... seriously, these are forums -- practically anything and everything said here is an opinion. I don't see why people need to keep saying IMO or IMHO in front of every comment they make. We know these are opinions; most of us respect each other's opinions, and we also debate the views. That's why this a FORUM.

Listen, Joe's acting isn't bad but it's not particularly great, either. He's another good-looking ho-hum actor who got his part mostly because of how he looks without that shirt. That he can also act a little is icing on the cake. Joe's acting range is similar to where Tom's was at the early stages of Smallville. On that note, I'm not in the camp that thinks Tom's acting has gotten much better. He certainly emotes a little more but he's still a stick most of the time.

I think what Dark Knight and some other posters are saying is that they'd really like to see a Superman film carried equally by its acting as well as by the action. Returns wanted to rely on acting, but it cast some of the worst actors (Bosworth, an uninspired Spacey) and an inexperienced Routh in what was supposed to be an established Superman.

So now we've got Snyder but action rarely is the centerpiece of a Nolan/Goyer script. There's typically a huge responsibility on the actors to get the job done on the dialogue (and as this is a Nolan film, I expect lots of dialogue from the leads). That requires great actors. It's no coincidence that Nolan's films have actors like Caine, Neeson, Bale, Freeman, DiCaprio, Page, etc. These are superb actors with a reputation for delivering amazing performances.

Joe doesn't fit the bill. Hamm does. The guy's been nominated left and right for best performance by practically every awards show in the US. And he recently won a Golden Globe for best male actor. This is the kind of resume Nolan prefers, and given the tightrope this film is walking on the production side, it's the kind of resume that offers guarantees that Hamm will deliver what Nolan/Snyder need to meet crucial deadlines.

That, and Hamm has been in a number of films now. He's in The Street and he's in Sucker Punch. He knows the drill. Joe's only done TV, and any actor will tell you that production for movies and TV are world's apart.

I think at the end all of us want a great Superman film, and that's why we want to see the best ACTORS play these parts. Sure, Joe might be a great actor some day, but I don't want to test-pilot him on Superman. All of us have waited too darn long for the Superman movie we can all get around. I want assurances, and at least Hamm gives me that assurance. It's like if Nolan cast Nicole Kidman as Lois (which won't happen, but bear with me). Sure, some of us would be angry, but at least we'd know we'd get an Oscar quality performance.

Hamm has the benefit of looking like Superman (Remember Ross openly wanted him for Captain America) and he's a great actor. On a stand-alone Superman movie that needs to deliver action AND acting -- and is probably more aimed at an older viewing audience (face it, tweens/teens aren't making up the box office anymore, folks -- there's a reason why Willis, Stallone, and company are showing up again), Hamm is also the best bet to draw in the most money and win over the 30-somethings and baby boomers who grew up on Chris Reeves and George Reeves (and yes, these groups have the spending power now).

My bet remains on Hamm. And as for Joe, he can try out for the part when the WB has to re-boot again after it resolves the licensing dispute with the Shuster Estate, which I'm sure will make Joe about 30 by the time the next Superman movie happens (if even then).

Thank you for this. :up:
 
Joe on True Blood is okay but nothing really stands out to me that he's up for Superman. I'm not feeling it and it feels like if he never jumped on the Superman bandwagon & announced he wanted to do it, I don't think anybody would care for Joe. Nor does he have a wholesome face. I know that you're an actor but Superman's face is everything since he doesn't wear a mask.
 
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