The Official Thread For: Harry Potter & The Order Of The Phoenix

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3/10

Saw a special screening yesterday. Saw it with 1000+ employees. Everyone I spoke to thought it was crap.

It was very boring, slow and filled with meaningless scenes, ugly CG character design and bad character development.

Definitely the worst HP so far.
 
No. In the book instead of a dragon, Voldy just made a shield appear.(Dragon was cooler). But one thing that was missing was that in the book, Dumbledore used a spell on the statues and they started moving, so when Voldy hit an AK killing curse, the statues would jump infront of Harry and stop him from being killed. That was cut out.

How about Fawkes?(dived in front of the Avada Kedavra curse)
 
I thought the glimspe Fudge got of Voldemort at the end was very good. it was like he saw a ghost.

But I thought Imeda pulled off Umbridge to perfection!!! her and that dayum giggle lol.
 
I thought the movie was great. I thought it was the best of the movies. It went pretty quick for me. The action was pretty cool.
 
Top marks; an excellent film. I'm not sure if I prefer this or Prisoner of Azkaban, but the films are neck-and-neck.
One of the things I find about watching any of these films is that, as a die-hard fan of the texts, I find it difficult to escape critiquing the film as adaptation as a watch it; I know how the scenes play out in the books, who gets the cool lines, and how plots intersect, and so I observe how the filmmakers rework it on film; this was true to an extent in this film (moments like when Sirius, rather than Moody, gives Harry the photo of the old Order; or Kingsley getting Phineas' "style" line), but, as I was on my way home, I realized that I had completely overlooked the way the filmmakers rerouted the villains' scheme in the end, jettisoning Kreacher's involvement entirely. So, they can pull me out of the canon on occasion, and that's pretty damn impressive.
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Also, the repeat of the "I must not tell lie" line (which I guessed two seconds before he said it) was an excellent addition.
The only things I really miss here were the encounter with Neville's parents at the hospital (the scene between Harry and Neville in the RoR is a decent substitute) and all the Umbridge v. McGonagall stuff (we get a truncated version, but I really wanted the career consultations scene; Maggie Smith would have been awesome in that).
The action the Department of Mysteries was excellent; in particular, the arrival of the Order of the Phoenix as clouds of white smoke was a real "hell yeah, the cavalry" moment, and the choreography of the initial enounter between Harry's team and the Death Eaters was brilliantly claustrophobic. By comparison, the Dumbledore vs. Voldemort fight was kind of anti-climactic (in an interesting choice, Voldemort seems to really overpower Dumbledore here, while in the book it's more of a clear stalemate).
A few "interesting choices":
- Bellatrix clearly hits Sirius with the killing curse, and he doesn't so much fall into the gateway as be absorbed by it.
- There's no mention made of the potentially dual nature of the original prophecy, in that it might have applied to Neville.
- The recasting of how Umbridge finds out about the Order both makes Cho the one who tells her and absolves Cho of any responsibility.
There were the usual clutch of stellar performances from the entire British theatre guild. It's become perfunctory to say that Alan Rickman absolutely rules all, but he still does. The kids are all terrific here, and there's actually some effort made to set Ron and Hermione up (although Radcliffe and Watson still have more chemistry on film). The girl playing Luna is really, really good. On the villain side, Jason Isaacs delivers another of his "smooth criminal" performances, and Lucius remains the series' best villain; at the same time, Ralph Fiennes' Lord Voldemort is way, way better here than he was in GoF (where I was a bit underwhelmed); Helena Bonham Carter has few lines, but she's effectively creepy/deranged. And Imelda Staunton is great as Umbridge (as I knew she would be as soon as I saw Vera Drake).
Yates' direction is great (very much like Cuaron's), and he and the screewriter make some inspired stylistic choices (they get a lot of mileage out of the things the Room of Requirement will do to suit the needs of the people inside). I also want to mention the way that Ron and co. escape the Inquisitorial Squad, which I have to say I like much better than the method in the book.
 
I really enjoyed it, sure there was a lot cut out and changed from the novel, but in broad strokes, the movie was very faithful to the main storyline of the novel, not to mention much more of the dialogue is retained too.

But what I appreciated about it was that it didn't flounder with random scenes that fans wanted to see -- it got in for the main story, told it in just the right amount of time, and got out. I was bothered by some of the plot ends left unresolved -- Kreacher is in only two scenes of the movie and he's just there because he plays a more pivotal role in the final movie (I'm surprised they didn't include the scene where Kreacher lies to Harry about Sirius's whereabouts), more background info about the centaurs and the explanation about the prophecy needed more time. I hope the problems lies with stuff excised from the film that was shot, and not during subsequent script rewrites.

But I really did enjoy it -- I think it's very close to POA in terms of quality and pacing. I wish the musical score was much better -- Warner Brothers should've made David Yates use John Williams instead of Yates' collaborator Nicholas Hooper. Don't get me wrong, Hooper did do an adequate job on the score and it's very good in places, but it's lacking something.
 
They left out a bit, but all in all, I still enjoyed it, like I have the previous ones. Prisoner of Azkaban and Order are probably my two favorite though. I really wish the last scene with Dumbledore and Harry in the office had been longer and explained more. And was it just me or did the Cho/Harry thing felt almost as tacked on as Arwen/Aragorn in LOTR?

I can only hope for an extended cut with 20 additional minutes.
 
I don't know why our generation of kids are fascinated on this lame Harry Potter fad, when I was a kid in the 80's I was more into the macho action adventure stuff like G.I.Joe, Transformers, HeMan.

I hope the new Transformers movie blow this crap out of the water.
 
I still am in awe that there are that many people willing to go see a midnight showing of a Harry Potter movie.

Midnight? Heh...the 3am show at our IMAX theater was sold out tonight.

Saw it at the IMAX tonight (and got a Dumbledore's Army t-shirt), and I loved it. I actually think it was the best of the 5. I knew most of the stuff that was cut going in, so I was forewarned enough not to be disappointed. The only stuff I really missed was Petunia's howler and the stuff about Neville being part of the prophesy.

I was happy to see them finally give Snape some more to do, and Imelda Staunton was perfect! And my favorite scene with Luna was still there, so I was happy.
 
This movie was good, which is disappointing because of how great the book was. This movie needed to be about an hour longer - and that was its major problem. They couldn't manage to fit that much info into that short of time frame, which is a shame.

What they do, though, they do well - and at times excellently.

Sirius Black = Fantastic. He got enough screen time to make us care about him despite his lack of time in GOF. And Gary Oldman is incredible. You truly feel that Harry feels he IS family, the only family left.

His death, while different than the book, wasn't horrible. I prefer the mysteriousness of the book - but Yates was able to make the scene just as dramatic

Umbridge was perfect, her scenes were almost straight for the book.

I didn't hate Dumbledore in this movie. The only time he seemed incredibly out of character was when he yelled at the kids after dealing with Umbridge - that is simply something that Dumbledore WOULDN'T do.

Snape needs more screen time, Neville needed more time, Ginny needed more time in the movie - she was by far the most underdeveloped character in the final six. The lack of Mirror scene is stupid and really unexplainable (as was the lack of Maurders explanation in POA - which oddly was kinda retconned in this movie by Sirius being called "Padfoot").

The films major curse is failing to live up to the source material.
 
This Film was just fantastic I knew it would be somewhat butcherd but it was most certainly well done for how large the book was.
 
I personally hated the previous film (Goblet) in the Harry Potter franchise, it seemed like more of a filler to me. Just a tournament, Voldemort appears and one of Harry's fellow students is murdered. I just had to say that because I can not believe the comments I'm hearing from some of the reviews above calling this the "filler" film, if anything it was more of a "building the bridge" film to lead to the last two (?) installments in the franchise. We started to see the formation of Dumbledore's army, more information regarding Harry's father and the alliance that was formed, and Voldemort gathering his own 'army', and ontop of that a more psychological journey for Harry concerning his relation to Voldemort. Goblit was the filler.:cwink:

As for the new Harry Potter film? Probably my favorite or second favorite in the whole entire franchise thus far! I would say it's a tie or just below the first film. With the second and third at a possible tie, it's been a while since I've seen the second film so the third may rank above it.

All in all, I believe that the fifth film managed to perfectly combine the essences of the dark realm and the magical realm into one very enjoyable and at moments intense film. I can see now why Radcliffe is most fond of this film in the franchise as well, as he has stated repeatedly during his press interviews for the film.

Radcliffe did a phenomenal job at portraying the inner conflict within Harry as he faces a more internal and psychological conflict this time around.

I'm really glad that David Yates is on board, according to imdb, to direct the next Harry Potter film because I believe he seriously created a spellbinding film that keeps you at the edge of your seat from beginning to end. And it's about time the WB sticks with one director again.

Overall, 8.5/10.
 
An estimated $12.0 m in midnight grosses last night for Harry Potter & and the Order of the Phoenix.

That's one of the biggest "midnights" figures we've seen to date, and should put the film's opening day gross well above the
$37.0 million I was thinking in making my predictions this weekend. It also likely means that Spider-Man 2's Wednesday opening day record of $40.4 million is toast.


Here are some of the more notable "midnights" we've seen before:

Key: Film (Day of Week), Midnights, Opening Day including midnights, (M/OD)

Pirates of the Caribbean 3 (Fri) - $17.0 m, $56.2 m, (30%)
Revenge of the Sith (Thr) - $16.5 m, $50.0 m, (33%)

Harry Potter 5 (Wed) - $12.0 m

Spider-Man 3 (Fri) - $10.0 m, $59.8 m, (17%)
The Matrix Reloaded (Thr) - $9.5 m, $42.5 m, (22%)
Pirates of the Caribbean 2 (Fri) - $9.0 m, $55.8 m, (16%)
Transformers (Tue) - $8.8 m, $36.7 m, (24%)
Return of the King (Wed) - $8.0 m, $34.5 m, (23%)
The Phantom Menace (Wed) - $7.0 m, $28.5 m, (25%)
Attack of the Clones (Thr) - $6.0 m, $30.1 m, (20%)
Harry Potter 4 (Fri) - $6.0 m, $40.1 m, (15%)
X-Men 3 (Fri) - $5.9 m, $45.1 m, (13%)
Spider-Man 2 (Wed) - $5.0 m, $40.5 m, (12%)
 
I don't know why our generation of kids are fascinated on this lame Harry Potter fad, when I was a kid in the 80's I was more into the macho action adventure stuff like G.I.Joe, Transformers, HeMan.

I hope the new Transformers movie blow this crap out of the water.

I loved the Transformers when I was a kid, and the current film is one of the worst big budget blockbusters I've ever suffered through. The Transformers are basically reduced to a subplot, one horrible cliche after another, Shia LeBeaof playing himself again, out of place and excessive lame comedy bits...

I never read the books and I love all the films to some degree.

This one was the best of the lot. A great uber-conservative to the point of fascim and using scapegoats to avoid facing problems social commentary, and by far the most emotional of the series.
The only problem I had with it is some of the supporting characters being underveloped, but overall a great summer blockbuster that restored my faith in them that Transformers nearly killed.

This movie flew by without me realizing any time had passed, Transformers made me feel like my head was being banged into the wall for a seemingly endless stretch of time.
 
Best film in the series and the best hollywood film of the year.
 
I don't know why our generation of kids are fascinated on this lame Harry Potter fad, when I was a kid in the 80's I was more into the macho action adventure stuff like G.I.Joe, Transformers, HeMan.

I hope the new Transformers movie blow this crap out of the water.
You like buff meh eh? You can watch Jean Claude all you want...these movies and books are excellent. There is a reason why this franchise is huge. Lets see G.I. Joe or He-Man take on that task shall we???
 
I can't believe there are people who rated this lower than a 7. 10 for me. I can't imagine how it could have been better.
 
I enjoyed this movie although I enjoyed the book far more. This all just seemed a bit rushed and didn't stand out as it's own movie. A bunch of stuff left me wondering and things that should have been explained weren't. Why did the kids take the Thestrals to London when they had their brooms? None of the cast had a moment to shine...it just seemed rushed going to story line to story line. Now, the battle between Voldermort and Dumbledore was simply amazing and quiet frankly the best non physical fight sequence I have ever seen in a movie. It was simply breathtaking. Dolores Umbridge was a great character and she stole each and every scene she was in. I just wish certain aspects had been further developed. And what was with the Sirius fire chat...I loved the way they had him come out of the embers in the last one. This one just seemed a bit out of place and a filler for the next movie. Overall, 8/10 or 3/4. Good movie, lived up to the hype, great visuals, great characters, great casting, and overall a great addition to the Potter films. If Yates stays...lets hope we get a longer film that gives us time to breathe and allow some development that made the book so great.
 
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