The Official Tom Welling for Superman Campaign Thread!!!

[FilmNerdJamie]

Singer's not committed to any films after Valkyrie, already signed for the Superman sequel and has said it's his next film. And the cast is officially signed on (i.e. they all have multi-film deals) and have said such.

As said before by Variety, WB did consider a reboot but all serious intentions with doing so went out the window when they inked a new deal with Singer to produce/direct a Superman Returns sequel back in October '06.

If they were really going to fire Singer, Routh & Co. and just reboot the franchise, it would already been done...awhile ago.

 

[Webhead2006]

True they did then but we dont know what wb wants to do with solo superman with the whole siegels/shusters stuff going on and if they want to gamble with singer again and possibly make a film that makes wrost then SR did. Now i know the film did well in BO but still it underpreformed for them and barely broke even on the budget for the film. But as i was saying for all we know solo superman could be dropped for awhile untill the whole siegels and shusters stuff can be dealt with. Only time will tell. Now yes it would be nice to see a sequel to try and fix the mistakes SR made and being how it spilt majority of fans and all that. But i really didnt like how it was based off the Reeve's films and stuck in the donnor pre crisis superman stuff. I would like to see post crisis/modern superman on the live action screen.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

WB "insiders" told Entertainment Weekly in this past week's issue that the Siegel ruling will not effect/delay Justice League or the Superman Returns sequel. If either film faces delays and what not, it will be for other reasons.

Not to mention, Time Warner and the Siegel family are already hammering out an agreement...which is what a number of folks (including Showtime and myself) said would happen.

 

[KBX]

got a link?

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea that is what i was hoping too it would be stupid of the families to take the character away from wb/dc were it it is making all the money it is, then taking it elsewhere where it could end up not selling well and not have all the mythos behind him and all that. but personally their was lots of things i didnt like in SR and i would want to see a reboot more over SR sequel. But what ever happens sequel/reboot i will probably see it in theaters if promos look good or just watch it online a bit later.

 

[Mike22]

If anything, he's worse now. Far more wooden than when he first appeared on the show.
But this "improved acting" intrigues me. What in god's name are you all talking about?

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hehehe. Again,that`s your opinion, which is just fine.
All I was saying is, not all feel the way you do.
And unless you have some sort of newly founded masters degree that makes you a better judge of peoples acting abilities, I think I`ll just suggest that we agree to disagree because there`s really nothing about what you`re saying that makes the slightest bit of sense.

 

[Olea]

WB "insiders" told Entertainment Weekly in this past week's issue that the Siegel ruling will not effect/delay Justice League or the Superman Returns sequel. If either film faces delays and what not, it will be for other reasons.

Not to mention, Time Warner and the Siegel family are already hammering out an agreement...which is what a number of folks (including Showtime and myself) said would happen.

I would probably expect Singer to return behind camera for a sequel if te Siegel family and WB won't work out a deal. However if they do, chances are, they'll utilize the same deal for Shuster and keep Superman home. If that's the case I see no reason why they can't reboot the franchise.

As for Singer himself, IMO all will be played after Valkyrie gets released. If it flops, which looks more likely to do so, I doubt WB will have him back.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

got a link?

SUPER MESS
Warner Bros. just got handed legal kryptonite. On March 26, a federal court ruled that the family of Jerry Siegel — who created Superman with Joe Shuster and sold the hero for $130 in 1938 — is entitled to a share of the character's copyright...and a chunk of the cash the Man of Steel has raked in recently. Translation: Pending appeal, Warner Bros. will have to surrender some profits from The CW's Smallville, now in season 7, and from 2006's Superman Returns, which grossed $200 million domestically. (Warner Bros., a division of Time Warner, which also owns EW's publisher, issued a statement that ''substantial issues...were ruled in our favor''; e.g., the studio keeps all international earnings.) The court also said Superman stays at Warner until at least 2013 — which means, says a studio insider, that neither a Justice League film nor a Returns sequel should be affected. As for the size of the check the Siegels will get? That's for a civil court to decide. And something tells us it won't be happening faster than a speeding bullet. — Adam B. Vary

[URL="http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20188261,00.html"]http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20188261,00.html[/URL]

April 6, 2008: Judge Orders DC and Siegel Family to Mediate

The judge presiding over the litigation between DC Comics/Warner Brothers and the estate of Superman co-creator Jerry Siegel issued a new Order on March 31, 2008. The Order requires the parties to spend the next 60 days engaged in good-faith mediation with the independent third party mediator both parties had agreed to (which, in the Order the judge notes, the parties haven’t done together since 2004).


The parties are expected to negotiate in good faith in an effort to resolve all issues relating to both the Superman and Superboy litigation. The Order requires the parties to file a Joint Report on June 1, 2008 explaining the results of their mediation and any progress made or resolutions reached. Should the parties not be able to settle the Superman case, the judge scheduled the trial for November 8, 2008 (and he also set certain other dates relevant to trial preparation).

Because certain issues related to the Superboy case may apparently be resolved in the Superman case, the judge has decided not to rule on any motions in that case or schedule any hearings till after the Superman trial ends. A copy of the March 31 Order is available to read here.
UPDATE: Newsarama.com have a great article which helps to explain the mediation process.

Posted by - barryfreiman on April 6, 2008 3:01pm EST

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?rowstart=13

Does that mean that an agreement will be reached? *Shrugs* Maybe or maybe not; personally I think it's obvious there will be one settled. Regardless, they are in the midst of hammering out one that will please both parties.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Valkyrie will not play a factor in TMOS; that's being made by another studio altogether. Did the failure of Zodiac hurt Fincher for other big-budget projects? Nope.

Where are you getting this reboot logic? WB has flat out said they're not going to reboot the franchise. My proof? They signed another multi-million dollar "pay or play" deal with Singer to helm the Superman Returns sequel. They're not going to piss away millions of $$$s on him just to not the film.

Again if WB really didn't want Singer involved at this point, they wouldn't have agreed to make another Superman film with him. He would have already been gone long ago. And just recently, he's reiterated that it's his next film. Accept it.

 

[Orin]

If they were really going to fire Singer, Routh & Co. and just reboot the franchise, it would already been done...awhile ago.

The way i see it, they'd fire Brandon & Bryan after after they get a script for a reboot, that convinces them, not at a certain point of time. I mean, if they are open to a sequel as well as a reboot, whatever they can get a good script for, what would be the point of firing Routh & Singer, before there's a good script for either? Btw, i'm not saying there won't be a sequel, i think there's a good chance that there will be one (even through i don't think Singer and his actors saying that they will do another movie means anything), but i'm just not seeing that point. And that "accept it" mentality is actually pretty funny, maybe i'm also gonna say that when people complain about JLM or the cast the next time...

 

[GreenKToo]

I like Welling and Routh equally, but to be fair to Routh, he's chances of being Superman again on the big screen are about 1,000% better than Tom's at this point.
I wouldnt mind welling in J.L.., but I'd prefer Trucco.
It looks like miller has other ideas about that though.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea we dont really know what wb wants to do with next solo superman. There is no script and like someone said if they get a script in that is a reboot and think it will be good to do they could drop singer and his cast easy. These things happen all the time where cast/director site to go and then film is dropped or crew/cast members leave or are fired.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I was really surprised when I first visited this forum that there is no thread about Tom Welling and his chances of getting the part of Superman.

So here it is. I know that not everyone agrees with this and there are not much news on the subject out there.

The latest are from back in December 2007 when the rumour mill was at high gear. It is said that the part was offered to TW but was unable to take it due to Al Gough. But he is gone now and the "Justice League" production seems to be moving away from Australia and possibly to Canada.

Does the WB still want him? Will they go after him again for the part? Does he want to be Superman beyond Smallville?


Fans of Welling who would like to see him suit up have started a petition for the WB asking to cast him as Superman. It is currently at 660 signature and it is growing daily. If you would like to support the effort, then please sign too. Here is the link or alternatively click on my sig:

http://www.petitiononline.com/TW4SinJL/petition.html


So what do you think? DO you want to see TW as Superman and why?

First of all, I really commend you for being one of the few Welling fans I've come across with who is not a raving lunatic. With that said, I really don't think he should play Superman in anything outside the Tube. I find him a wooden actor who is not able to command a strong screen presence and I just can't buy him as Superman. Good luck with the petition, though there is another petition online wich should be more important to people all over the world:

http://www.petitiononline.com/RRH53888/petition.html

 

[KELLEL]

First of all, I really commend you for being one of the few Welling fans I've come across with who is not a raving lunatic. With that said, I really don't think he should play Superman in anything outside the Tube. I find him a wooden actor who is not able to command a strong screen presence and I just can't buy him as Superman. Good luck with the petition, though there is another petition online wich should be more important to people all over the world:

http://www.petitiononline.com/RRH53888/petition.html

I might buy him as Superman, but definitely not Clark Kent.

 

[Olea]

First of all, I really commend you for being one of the few Welling fans I've come across with who is not a raving lunatic. With that said, I really don't think he should play Superman in anything outside the Tube. I find him a wooden actor who is not able to command a strong screen presence and I just can't buy him as Superman. Good luck with the petition, though there is another petition online wich should be more important to people all over the world:

http://www.petitiononline.com/RRH53888/petition.html

Thank you.

I think I'm past the age of a drooling, raving teenage girl. I do like Welling though, as a fan of the show and the character. My hopes were shot down by Routh, he didn't deliver in my opinion, so instead of going the same with another new face, I'd rather support one that I believe can do the job right!!!


Update on the signatures: 730



Btw, who is Boll? And how long has this petition going on? It has almost 150000 signatures.....

 

[I Am The Knight]

Thank you.

I think I'm past the age of a drooling, raving teenage girl. I do like Welling though, as a fan of the show and the character. My hopes were shot down by Routh, he didn't deliver in my opinion, so instead of going the same with another new face, I'd rather support one that I believe can do the job right!!!


Update on the signatures: 730



Btw, who is Boll? And how long has this petition going on? It has almost 150000 signatures.....

LOL, I guess you can call him the Ed Wood of modern cinema:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_Boll

 

[Nightwing1977]

As for Singer himself, IMO all will be played after Valkyrie gets released. If it flops, which looks more likely to do so, I doubt WB will have him back.

I disagree with that. I remeber Apt. Pupil wasn't that successful & it didn't hurt Singer's chance of doing X-Men. Just because a director make one flop don't mean it will hurt his chance of doing something else.

 

[KBX]

Valkyrie shouldn't have anything to do with Singer making/or not making a sequel. Some people just need to ask themselves if the WB was really all on board to make a sequel, would a JLA movie be this far in production? Would they have waiting so long just to get a script right?

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea if they really wanted an SR sequel badly they would have convinced singer to put the other films of his on hold or work out doing films at the same time or something. Personally i dont want to see singer return his film was a mess. Hopefully jla does well if it actually happens and/or Wb decides to do a reboot instead. Heck look at hulk for example it was a crap film in 2003 and now they have a new hulk film coming out that is a complete reboot of the 2003 film so why couldnt dc/wb do the same with superman.

 

[Saint]

I don't understand why you would want someone who can barely play a convincing Clark Kent after six seasons of SMALLVILLE to take on the role of Superman. Will never understand that.

No kidding. Welling has exactly one expression; I'd describe it as "mild distress." No matter what the scene calls for--happiness, anger, sadness--Welling is always just mildly distressed.

Not that Smallville would be greatly improved by good acting. Maybe a mass firing of all the writers...

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

The Singer sequel to Returns is well underway if you have been following the reports Singer is already working on that. Now the real question come is how much work has already been done and does he have his writers yet? Because IMO I think the WB already has a writing staff in place and already working on a script and we just won't here nothing until the script is done and they are about to shoot. Because if you go to the Superman forum you will see that the movie is moving along nicely.

 

[Olea]

No kidding. Welling has exactly one expression; I'd describe it as "mild distress." No matter what the scene calls for--happiness, anger, sadness--Welling is always just mildly distressed.

Not that Smallville would be greatly improved by good acting. Maybe a mass firing of all the writers...

I thin that Welling has improved over the years and his acting is not that bad as you're saying. However, I cannot argue with a suggestion of firing all the writers but I would say flog them first for what they have done to our fav character, starting with Gough and his triangle fantasies.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

My question is to you guys is even if you guys want Welling as Superman what makes you think he would want to play Superman in a movie? I mean he has played the role of Young Clark Kent for 8 years now what makes you think he would want to play the role of Superman for 8 more years? Better yet what makes you think he will want to have anything to do with Superman once SV is done? I mean I like Welling and would love to see him in the suit but at the same time I think the guy might also be tired of the role. Because you can make a petition all you want the problem is does the actor want the same thing you want. To be honest once SV is done I see Welling becoming like Terri Hatcher where he will do anything he can to distance himself from Superman and like Hatcher be thankful that SV gave him his start but really will not talk about it or have anything to do with it.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea i would love to see welling as supes he would probably be better then most of the rumored names and cotrona but yea it all really counts on if he would want to do the role or not. And from what i heard MOS isnt really that far along yes singer has had a plan and the wb shot his ideas down and then his writers left, then their was reports that wb was looking for new writers to either do a reboot film or singer's MOS sequel. So in all it really counts on what script they end up likely and if they want to gamble with singer again since his SR film under performed for them.

 

[Showtime]

I think you'll see Welling in the suit as Smallville draws to a close. I think the petition is a nice idea, but you really need a good amount of signatures on there for it to work any kind of magic. I don't think sending monkees to WB is only going to make them think they should do a King Kong movie.