The Official Tom Welling for Superman Campaign Thread!!!

Even thought I never buy the story from Emi & think others shouldn't with how she seem to be positive with the news which was false or it was a lie, but I wouldn't call those "idiot" for believing her. That a little too much. Plus, I try to have class. We all need that here. ;)
Agreed!!!

I hope my comment though, wasn't misunderstood. It wasn't you who called me that.
 
everyone should just stop bashing emi and her husband steve. Everyone who posted any news about jla got things wrong thats the nature of this film project and that with all the info kept away from us fans. As for what emi and steve are doing with their petition thing its a nice idea to get a better superman film then the mess that singer made with the character is it likely to happen no but still a nice idea and all that. And yes emi likes welling for the role but their idea was not for welling as supes thats a whole different petition from someone else they have hosted on there site. As for her/his scoops and their accuraty yes she/he have been right on things in the past but with jla as i said everyone got things wrong since information changed all the time. So really we should stop bashing people on who was right and who was wrong. We should go back to the topic of this thread which was tom welling and why u think or dont think he would be good for superman in jla/ or a solo film.
 
Welling, Routh, Trucco, anyone but D.J. for the love of God.:shock ( well, not anyone, but you get what I mean)
 
Yea if dj was to stay with the film if it does happen i would be a bit disapointed i want someone who has the look and can pull of the character right.
 
everyone should just stop bashing emi and her husband steve. Everyone who posted any news about jla got things wrong thats the nature of this film project and that with all the info kept away from us fans. As for what emi and steve are doing with their petition thing its a nice idea to get a better superman film then the mess that singer made with the character is it likely to happen no but still a nice idea and all that. And yes emi likes welling for the role but their idea was not for welling as supes thats a whole different petition from someone else they have hosted on there site. As for her/his scoops and their accuraty yes she/he have been right on things in the past but with jla as i said everyone got things wrong since information changed all the time. So really we should stop bashing people on who was right and who was wrong. We should go back to the topic of this thread which was tom welling and why u think or dont think he would be good for superman in jla/ or a solo film.

I don't want anybody calling anybody names on this forum. It won't be tolerated whether or not you agree with somebody or not. Jayne and Steve shouldn't be called names either and I have already drawn attention to this on multiple occasions.

That being said, anybody who is in their position should expect to deal with some ridicule and that people are not always going to agree with them. Same goes for posters who report info from their site on The Hype, there is no problem with doing so there are people that follow Jayne's Blog and SaveSuperman, however there are going to be some that don't agree with what they are saying. Of course, if somebody doesn't agree with an opinion or stance, there is no need for personal bashing. I won't let personal attacks go forward when I am around.

In regards to JLA, they were wrong on some info, maybe right on some info. However if somebody is wrong, they are wrong. You can't be 100% right all the time, and you can't blame everything on sources and changes to production. It doesn't matter if you are Variety, Showtime, Jayne, or IESB. Sometimes you're just wrong, just like sometimes you are just right.
 
I don't want anybody calling anybody names on this forum. It won't be tolerated whether or not you agree with somebody or not. Jayne and Steve shouldn't be called names either and I have already drawn attention to this on multiple occasions.

That being said, anybody who is in their position should expect to deal with some ridicule and that people are not always going to agree with them. Same goes for posters who report info from their site on The Hype, there is no problem with doing so there are people that follow Jayne's Blog and SaveSuperman, however there are going to be some that don't agree with what they are saying. Of course, if somebody doesn't agree with an opinion or stance, there is no need for personal bashing. I won't let personal attacks go forward when I am around.

In regards to JLA, they were wrong on some info, maybe right on some info. However if somebody is wrong, they are wrong. You can't be 100% right all the time, and you can't blame everything on sources and changes to production. It doesn't matter if you are Variety, Showtime, Jayne, or IESB. Sometimes you're just wrong, just like sometimes you are just right.

Agree, ST. You are 100% correct there. I admit getting a little carried away from the beginning on saying thing about Emi, but I'm cool now. Just think some need to keep an open mind & don't believe everything she say. Some of her comments I seen at CD are kinda silly & most of the time I think she post what other did first and she just take it. It just she & her hubby doesn't work for being entertainment news like Variety or EW that know more than them, so that why I trust those news than her.
 
Do we still need to debate if Welling could pull off Supes?



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From Smallville's "Apocalypse" trailer!!!!
 
Do we still need to debate if Welling could pull off Supes?

Yes. Considering that's Clark Kent and not Superman. And a lot of debate surrounds whether Welling is a good enough actor in general for people to want to see him as Superman on the big screen. Nothing against the guy, but IMHO, Welling just needs to stay on tv. :o
 
Do we still need to debate if Welling could pull off Supes?



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From Smallville's "Apocalypse" trailer!!!!

That's Clark, not Superman. And he still look the same. They was able to change Reeve & Routh's look between Clark & Supes, but Welling still look the same. All he did was wear a suit & put on a glasses. Not convincted enough.
 
Thats Clark...

Yes. Considering that's Clark Kent and not Superman. And a lot of debate surrounds whether Welling is a good enough actor in general for people to want to see him as Superman on the big screen. Nothing against the guy, but IMHO, Welling just needs to stay on tv. :o
Party poopers!!!! Let a gal dream....

That's Clark, not Superman. And he still look the same. They was able to change Reeve & Routh's look between Clark & Supes, but Welling still look the same. All he did was wear a suit & put on a glasses. Not convincted enough.
Sorry you feel that way but I see your point, the get up is classic Clark Kent..... :csad:
 
everyone should just stop bashing emi and her husband steve. Everyone who posted any news about jla got things wrong thats the nature of this film project and that with all the info kept away from us fans. As for what emi and steve are doing with their petition thing its a nice idea to get a better superman film then the mess that singer made with the character is it likely to happen no but still a nice idea and all that. And yes emi likes welling for the role but their idea was not for welling as supes thats a whole different petition from someone else they have hosted on there site. As for her/his scoops and their accuraty yes she/he have been right on things in the past but with jla as i said everyone got things wrong since information changed all the time. So really we should stop bashing people on who was right and who was wrong. We should go back to the topic of this thread which was tom welling and why u think or dont think he would be good for superman in jla/ or a solo film.

I feel that they do deserve redicule now because their site has gotten to the point of rediculousness. Yeah they did have some basis when it was likely that Welling was in negotiations for the role, but now it's turned into a joke when they kept on insisting that he was getting the role when that chance was long gone and saying that the next Superman film will be a reboot when it looks like it will be a sequel.
 
well their site they are trying to get petition for wb to reboot the film series. is it likely to happen maybe not. Personally would be nice to see a reboot after the mess SR was but its all about what wb thinks is the better/easier move and that will make them more money. Maybe they will gamble with singer again and it could flop or make alot of money, two they could drop singer and have a new director do sequel, or possibly(less likely) reboot superman like marvel are doing with hulk when the other hulk film only came out what 5 yrs before.
 
well their site they are trying to get petition for wb to reboot the film series. is it likely to happen maybe not. Personally would be nice to see a reboot after the mess SR was but its all about what wb thinks is the better/easier move and that will make them more money. Maybe they will gamble with singer again and it could flop or make alot of money, two they could drop singer and have a new director do sequel, or possibly(less likely) reboot superman like marvel are doing with hulk when the other hulk film only came out what 5 yrs before.

To be fair though, the Incredible Hulk was meant to be a vague sequel like Superman Returns was until Norton came along.

The Incredible Hulk is a rather necessary reboot to deliver a much needed change in tone. And in a way it can be looked upon a very, very vague sequel to those who liked the film (I myself liked it but even I admit things need to be different this time).

Superman Returns however doesn't need a reboot. More people like it as opposed to Hulk and frankly most haters of the film tend to look at it as the film they feel it should have been (a reboot ala Batman Begins, Smallville the Movie, a reboot without an origin story, etc.) instead of the film it really is. Sure there were glaring problems with the film, it needed more action, it should have had more influences from the comic book Superman as opposed to just the Donner Superman, and Lois Lane was horribly miscast but overall it was a good film. At least Singer recognizes that it wasn't perfect and is promising to deliver the needed changes (more action, more comic book influences) and based on X-2, he's been proven to improve himself with a sequel.

And really we probably wouldn't be having this debate on whether or not Warner Bros wanted a sequel to Superman Returns if Pirates of the Carribbean 2 came out the following weekend. That movie was an unexpected juggernaut, Superman Returns would have probably met Warner Bros. expectations if it were released farther from Pirates of the Carribbean 2 instead of just a week.

As long as Singer delivers the changes he promises there really is no problem him directing a sequel.

That said, emi's site is still a total joke.
 
ok i get you. Everyone has their own opinions and all that. If singer does stay hopefully it can be a better movie, and yes i would have liked a reboot like bb was but they choose to go vague connection to the donnor films. The thing there is superman character has changed alot since then and most people who would have liked a reboot film would have liked to see a modern superman take post crisis/current superman and not the donnor/silver age peroid. We just have to wait and see what WB decides on doing with solo supes. If they choose to stay with singer and his vague silver age/donnor verse period hopefully JLA supes can be modern take on the character.
 
Those screen caps of Welling in the classic CK glasses are pretty good. He gives an impression of being lost and looks like he`s trying to find his way out, and he`s looking nervous too, which I think is good. I`m looking forward to seeing this episode.

However, when thinking of grown up superman, and the classic geeky Clark ( at lest the way Reeve portrayed him) which seems to be the version that people compare Welling to, like all the time, I thought I`d manip a more appropriate hair style on Wellings appearance in those shots. Because I`ve heard it being said pretty often how big of a difference there was between Reeves Clark and superman, and that`s something I disagree on. Because while there was a certain difference, it sure as heck wasn`t anywhere near as much as people claim.

This is Reeve as Clark and superman.
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Other than different lighting, and his very wrinkly forehead, the massive difference that some people talk about between Clark and superman is really nowhere to be found. So, what IS so very different on this picture?
His hair is parted the other way, with more volume, he has some really big glasses, and a wrinkly forehead. And that`s about it.
Now, some people might like to pretend that there is such a large difference here, that no one could put two and two together and realise that the only different about this guy, that separates one from the other is a different haircut, glasses, and a goofy personality, but I don`t see it that way, he looks the same, a different haircut with glasses and acting like a total fool isn`t gonna change that. Fact is, the audience is in on it, they know that this couldn`t work in real life, so they just accept it as part of the deal when they go see a superman movie.
The accepted it with Reeve and should it ever happen, they will accept it with Welling.

Let`s try the same with Welling.
I took the liberty of maniping those screen shots and adding a more Reeve-ish hair to Wellings Clark.
I`m not saying it`s gonna make him look like a different person all together, because that`s not gonna happen, but he sure doesn`t look any worse than Reeve does. Even resembles Reeve quite a bit.
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I don`t really know what kind of incredibly face changing qualities that people credit Reeve for, lol, but as far as I can see, giving Welling the same appearance will make him look just as geeky as Reeve did, and give the much desired "difference" between superman and Clark that so many crave these days.

But wait, there's more
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A while back I drew a picture of Welling as a geeky Clark Kent, and I thought I was pretty successful at making him look like a total dork.
Then after the episode "noir" I drew another one.
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I don`t know what some peoples definition of "dorky" is, but I`d say that Welling is MORE than capable of pulling of an expression that will set him apart from his superman persona.

As for him looking as superman, with a difference from his CK look..
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To ME, he has everything to portray the superman I`ve had in mind for as long as I`ve known of him. I know there are people who don`t agree and that`s of course ok, because I`m not expecting people to agree with me, people are different, with different opinions and different perspective on things that sets us apart from one another.

Just my two cents.

Ya`ll have a good night.
 
At least Singer recognizes that it wasn't perfect and is promising to deliver the needed changes (more action, more comic book influences) and based on X-2, he's been proven to improve himself with a sequel.

This has been brought up several times and it just doesn't fly with me. X1 didn't paint itself into corners the way SR has. Was there a character like Jason in X1? Jason must be addressed in SR2, whether it's by killing him, depowering him or sending him away to superhero school. The fact that he has exists to begin with has already ruined the franchise for me. Any second more spent on him is something I have negative interest in. And he will/must be addressed, which is why I will not be paying to see another Singer Superman film.

Also, there has been a demand for Singer to stop kissing Donner's fanny and look into the modern comics. There are people who want to see LexCorp, but IMVHO it's too late for that. We are just supposed to believe that Lex will be allowed to run a multi-billion dollar corporation after the stunt he pulled in S:TM and SR? :huh:

There has been significant damage done to the franchise caused by SR, IMO, the same can't be said for X1. Which is why the two franchises are not comparable. It's not as simple as "add more action" and all problems are solved. The whole Maury Povich drama throughout SR which is sure to be expanded upon in SR2 is horrid. Jason still needs to find out who his biological father is, Richard needs to know the deal, etc... Having that sandwiched between "more action" just won't cut it for me. We need a whole new story and vision for this franchise, IMHO.
 
Those screen caps of Welling in the classic CK glasses are pretty good. He gives an impression of being lost and looks like he`s trying to find his way out, and he`s looking nervous too, which I think is good. I`m looking forward to seeing this episode.

However, when thinking of grown up superman, and the classic geeky Clark ( at lest the way Reeve portrayed him) which seems to be the version that people compare Welling to, like all the time, I thought I`d manip a more appropriate hair style on Wellings appearance in those shots. Because I`ve heard it being said pretty often how big of a difference there was between Reeves Clark and superman, and that`s something I disagree on. Because while there was a certain difference, it sure as heck wasn`t anywhere near as much as people claim.

This is Reeve as Clark and superman.
200pxclarksupescompareyl0.jpg

Other than different lighting, and his very wrinkly forehead, the massive difference that some people talk about between Clark and superman is really nowhere to be found. So, what IS so very different on this picture?
His hair is parted the other way, with more volume, he has some really big glasses, and a wrinkly forehead. And that`s about it.
Now, some people might like to pretend that there is such a large difference here, that no one could put two and two together and realise that the only different about this guy, that separates one from the other is a different haircut, glasses, and a goofy personality, but I don`t see it that way, he looks the same, a different haircut with glasses and acting like a total fool isn`t gonna change that. Fact is, the audience is in on it, they know that this couldn`t work in real life, so they just accept it as part of the deal when they go see a superman movie.
The accepted it with Reeve and should it ever happen, they will accept it with Welling.

Let`s try the same with Welling.
I took the liberty of maniping those screen shots and adding a more Reeve-ish hair to Wellings Clark.
I`m not saying it`s gonna make him look like a different person all together, because that`s not gonna happen, but he sure doesn`t look any worse than Reeve does. Even resembles Reeve quite a bit.
wellinghairstyleey8.png


I don`t really know what kind of incredibly face changing qualities that people credit Reeve for, lol, but as far as I can see, giving Welling the same appearance will make him look just as geeky as Reeve did, and give the much desired "difference" between superman and Clark that so many crave these days.

But wait, there's more
icon7.gif
icon11.gif

A while back I drew a picture of Welling as a geeky Clark Kent, and I thought I was pretty successful at making him look like a total dork.
Then after the episode "noir" I drew another one.
wellinggeekyclarkmk9.png


I don`t know what some peoples definition of "dorky" is, but I`d say that Welling is MORE than capable of pulling of an expression that will set him apart from his superman persona.

As for him looking as superman, with a difference from his CK look..
wellingsupermanah3.png


To ME, he has everything to portray the superman I`ve had in mind for as long as I`ve known of him. I know there are people who don`t agree and that`s of course ok, because I`m not expecting people to agree with me, people are different, with different opinions and different perspective on things that sets us apart from one another.

Just my two cents.

Ya`ll have a good night.
Great looking manips man good work. Yea for welling he could easily play the goofy/bumbling clark kent persona but in smallville he isnt at that point yet and all that.

And fawless victory i totally agree with you singer made a mess with superman in SR and it is pretty dam hard to fix all the bad things fans have been telling him about since the film first came out. It would be nice if wb/dc would totally reboot him and take the mythos and all that from current/modern supes and get out of the donnor/reeve/silver age stuff. That superman is long gone and we dont need to see silver age superman stuff in today's world.
 
Great looking manips man good work. Yea for welling he could easily play the goofy/bumbling clark kent persona but in smallville he isnt at that point yet and all that.

And fawless victory i totally agree with you singer made a mess with superman in SR and it is pretty dam hard to fix all the bad things fans have been telling him about since the film first came out. It would be nice if wb/dc would totally reboot him and take the mythos and all that from current/modern supes and get out of the donnor/reeve/silver age stuff. That superman is long gone and we dont need to see silver age superman stuff in today's world.

Mike I agree with what u say

And not to bash Superman Returns cause I dont think it was a bad homage to the old films but it still was and outdated interpretation of Superman in which I believe Smallville has delivered to the new mythology of Superman, like for example Lionel Luthor and they almost included Chloe into the comics and the renovating look of the Kent's but not to say that Superman Returns has not contributed anything to the comics cause they have, for example now in some Superman comics we have Superman wearing the S emblem in the belt, the Ice Fortress and they are also venturing in to the family theme with the introduction of Chris Kent. But what really gets me with SR is that with such a high budget they still didn't deliver with the FX, for example with Superman's powers I think that Smallville is 100x better than in the movie like the X-ray, Heat vision, Super breath and even the flight scenes are more dramatic. So if a $200 million dollars could not deliver, what make u think that now with lower budget they can make the movie better? And what about the mess of the illegitimate son of Superman. For me I would love a Reboot of the franchise and be over with the old movies and start fresh cause I would hate to think that a movie like Hancock (which I think looks grate :D) would do better than our Superman franchise.
 
I still say NO to Welling. Something about his face is just so not Superman to me. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I know others agree with me.
 
I still say NO to Welling. Something about his face is just so not Superman to me. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I know others agree with me.

So u think is his look? I think that is stretching it a bit

What is it? his Nose, Lips, Body, Hair, Eyes? What is it?

Or is it that u guys still want a clone of Christopher Reeve?

Let Christopher rest in peace and lets start new

Welling is the new face :cwink:
 
This has been brought up several times and it just doesn't fly with me. X1 didn't paint itself into corners the way SR has. Was there a character like Jason in X1? Jason must be addressed in SR2, whether it's by killing him, depowering him or sending him away to superhero school. The fact that he has exists to begin with has already ruined the franchise for me. Any second more spent on him is something I have negative interest in. And he will/must be addressed, which is why I will not be paying to see another Singer Superman film.

Also, there has been a demand for Singer to stop kissing Donner's fanny and look into the modern comics. There are people who want to see LexCorp, but IMVHO it's too late for that. We are just supposed to believe that Lex will be allowed to run a multi-billion dollar corporation after the stunt he pulled in S:TM and SR? :huh:

There has been significant damage done to the franchise caused by SR, IMO, the same can't be said for X1. Which is why the two franchises are not comparable. It's not as simple as "add more action" and all problems are solved. The whole Maury Povich drama throughout SR which is sure to be expanded upon in SR2 is horrid. Jason still needs to find out who his biological father is, Richard needs to know the deal, etc... Having that sandwiched between "more action" just won't cut it for me. We need a whole new story and vision for this franchise, IMHO.
I agree with you all the way. The problem with a sequel to SR is how do we solve the problems created without pissing off the viewers...
 
I agree with you all the way. The problem with a sequel to SR is how do we solve the problems created without pissing off the viewers...

Its simple lets Reboot. If The Hulk did it so can we. I'm willing to wait 1 or 2 years for a reboot so will a lot of other ppl
 

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