Days of Future Past The Official X-Men: First Class Box Office Discussion Thread!

[Downhere]

If this film tops $110 million it will be a miracle. Too crowded a summer folks. Super 8 crushes it this Friday and then comes Lantern, Cars 2, Transformers, and a host of others. It just doesn't have time to stay in big enough halls to make any serious cash. I can't understand why this film was not held until late summer or early fall. I guess they gambled and hoped one big opening weekend during the summer would translate better than letting it find an audience this fall. I believe this was a mistake. A fine picture, great cast and a great script. It deserves better than it is getting.

I highly doubt Super 8 will crush this, as there isn't much hype for Super 8. Also, Super 8 is tracking low 30's, which I think will be on target. GL will be it's true competition and I don't even see that one opening all that big either.

 

[Gorilla Grodd]

If this film tops $110 million it will be a miracle. Too crowded a summer folks. Super 8 crushes it this Friday and then comes Lantern, Cars 2, Transformers, and a host of others. It just doesn't have time to stay in big enough halls to make any serious cash. I can't understand why this film was not held until late summer or early fall. I guess they gambled and hoped one big opening weekend during the summer would translate better than letting it find an audience this fall. I believe this was a mistake. A fine picture, great cast and a great script. It deserves better than it is getting.

You are seriously crazy if you think this will only top 110 million. It should be at 90 by the end of next weekend. The lowest this movie will pull is 130 million...but with the good reviews I see this could go to 150.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Tracking said First Class would hit in the 60s-70s and they clearly blew it. Who's to say Super 8 won't exceed tracking and chug out in the high 30s to low 40s?

We just saw how tracking over-blew First Class and Pirates 4. Logically you shouldn't take tracking to heart and use that as a fall-back to determine how something so hard to gage like Super 8 will do. Just saying, fellas.

 

[Gorilla Grodd]

GL will be huge. The ads are everywhere. Kids love it. Chicks dig Ryan. If there's one sci-fi movie that will pull in the chicks it's that movie. I'm not saying Epic numbers, but it should do big.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

I say Green Lantern opens to around mid-to-high 50s. But since it has that 3D/IMAX factor it could hypothetically hit the 60s just taking into account what happened with Thor.

Which is solid considering this is a brand-new property with an unproven actor in the lead (before anyone even says The Proposal, you can thank Sandra Bullock for that one) and a comic-book superhero not that terribly known by the general public. Honestly, GL is hard to get a grasp of because it has to walk such a thin-line with the material.

WB/DC are pushing the **** outta this and have for months now. So if it under-performs/fails, it won't be for a lack of effort.

 

[Tony Stark]

Well for whatever reason the film underperformed. I think a sequel at this point is in doubt, and they're probably more likely to fund another Wolverine movie, because with Jackman they know they can make money.

That's very unfortunate, because this really was the best one since the second film and there was so much potential.

I think the best we can hope for is that Marvel reattains the rights to X-men and continue the series under Marvel Studio where they have more of a vested interest for these films going forward.

 

[Tony Stark]

The Amazing Spider-Man has dodged a huge bullet now that it appears the Star Trek sequel probably won't make that June 29, 2012 release date. It would have eaten the web-slinger alive. Don't doubt that for a second.

That said, it's still going to be rough sea ahead for the Spider-Man reboot. They won't have Star Trek 2 to use as an excuse if it under-performs like I think it will.

Um, yeah I do doubt that. I love the new Star Trek, but let's face it, it's Spidey, the film is pretty much guaranteed to make 250-300M even if it sucks.

 

[Storm22]

I'd be quite surprised if we don't get a sequel. The movie is fantastic and has garnered glowing reviews. Even Fox have said they are happy with this start to the new X-Men franchise.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Well for whatever reason the film underperformed. I think a sequel at this point is in doubt, and they're probably more likely to fund another Wolverine movie, because with Jackman they know they can make money.

That's very unfortunate, because this really was the best one since the second film and there was so much potential.

I think the best we can hope for is that Marvel reattains the rights to X-men and continue the series under Marvel Studio where they have more of a vested interest for these films going forward.

Right now the only X film we can expect Is The Wolverine

Deadpool IS not certain.Not only could Fox come away with the lesson that
only the cast from X-Men,X2,The Last Stand can carry X-Men films.Plus
Ryan Reynolds' schedule IS also a factor.

It Is very likely X4 Is the most likely film after The Wolverine to be made.

If marvel Studios were to get their rights they would not continue the series but reboot It.And even then no telling when we would actully see a film.
Marvel still hasn't made any announcements on a Thor sequel.May I remind people Ant-Man was announced back In 2007 and In 2011 It Is no sooner at getting made.They may talk about Black Widow and Shield spinoffs but no real move has been made on them.After The Avengers the only Marvel Studios film with schedule Is Iron Man 3.Marvel so far has shown little Intrest besides talk on nonAvengers projects.

Marvel would want to Include more Ultimate elements and Ignore Classic Marvel.Marvel Studios would never have done a film like First Class
set In 1960's and a Silver age Marvel film.

It remains to be seen rather the Avengers will be the Avengers or the Ultimites with the Avengers name.They have an obsession with using the
TV series Hulk merged with Ultimate elements at Ignoring the 616 Hulk.

And can Marvel do films with quality of X-Men,X2,and First Class?Ignore
First Iron Man and consider do you think Iron Man 2 and Thor are better than
X-men,X2,and First Class?

 

[FingersMcGhee]

I said this in another thread, but I will say it again here.

This film, and Batman Begins have much in common when it comes to boxoffice numbers and history.

Both are "origin" stories to a superhero film that has already had four films.

Both are coming off of a fourth entry that are widely considered bad. (Both franchises third entries are weak too)

Batman Begins opened to 48 million, First Class was what, around 57 million.

Both films are good solid films, Begins surpassed 200 million domestically due to "word of mouth". I suspect First Class will be much of the same.

 

[SuperT]

Batman Begins opened on a Wednesday though dude, and ended up around 70mill by the end of the weekend.

While it may be in the same boat as Begins (prequel/reboot, trying to overcome to crappy sequels before it), you really can't compare their BO performance. Although I'm not saying First Class is a failure by any means.

I just think Fox would be stupid not to do sequel to this because with the word of mouth and great fan and critic reviews this is getting, a sequel could only TOP this one.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Um, yeah I do doubt that. I love the new Star Trek, but let's face it, it's Spidey, the film is pretty much guaranteed to make 250-300M even if it sucks.

Sorry it's not guaranteed to do that. Just look at how Shrek 4, Pirates 4 and First Class were "guaranteed" to hit a certain number that they didn't.

The Amazing Spider-Man is also coming off an incredibly unpopular last movie, a brand-new actor and cast in the roles, the decision to reboot and do the origin story again (when the first film is still fresh in people's minds and Tobey Maguire is still Spidey in their eyes).

 

[Raiden]

I'm not too surprised at the 56 mil opening, considering the fact that it can't be treated as just another X-Men movies with several factors to keep in mind:

1) New cast, relatively unknown
2) It's a prequel/reboot set in the 60's
3) No Wolverine (it's a good thing for me but probably not to GA)
4) New director

I think it is more important to make sure it is a good, solid movie with generally positive reviews, and FC seems to have these bases covered. Fox will not give up the X-Men franchise anyway, so unless they decided to make X4 (which would be a terrible idea), I think a sequel is inevitable.

 

[FingersMcGhee]

It's still comperable in every sense of the word. If First Class would have opened mid week, it's take by Sunday would have been higher. But you have to look at the performance on same days, and with that, they are pretty close.

 

[SuperT]

I think it is more important to make sure it is a good, solid movie with generally positive reviews, and FC seems to have these bases covered. Fox will not give up the X-Men franchise anyway, so unless they decided to make X4 (which would be a terrible idea), I think a sequel is inevitable.

I thought I was the only person around here that thought doing an X4 at this point, was a bad idea. Especially now that First Class has been released.

 

[Downhere]

Tracking said First Class would hit in the 60s-70s and they clearly blew it. Who's to say Super 8 won't exceed tracking and chug out in the high 30s to low 40s?

We just saw how tracking over-blew First Class and Pirates 4. Logically you shouldn't take tracking to heart and use that as a fall-back to determine how something so hard to gage like Super 8 will do. Just saying, fellas.

This is true, although, it could go the other way and open low 20's. It's an either/or situation.

 

[The Chris]

I just hope to god this thing has legs. Really hope it follows the road of Star Trek and Batman begins. Awesome movies following bad ones that rejuvenated the series but opened low, luckily having good legs. I really hope so. Good filmmakers should be rewarded.

 

[marvelrobbins]

X4 would only work If you Ignore the Last Stand and set It a few years after X2(and No I don't mean redoing the Phoenix story) and brings the Days of Future past storyline to screen(We know Lauren Shuller Donner wants to do that) with Bryan Singer directing.
X4 after The Last Stand Is too problematic.

Now If First Class could become a trilogy considering a sentinle head was seen In Danger room In Last Stand we could have Sentinles In conclusion.Of course even If we assume The Last Stand Is not In cannon with First Class like X-Men and X2 they could still work In the Sentinles.

 

[FingersMcGhee]

just remake X-Men 3..... make the last stand a bad dream, LOL

 

[Spider-Fan]

You can easily make a sequel to X3 without retconing it. You just have to be creative.

 

[Tony Stark]

Right now the only X film we can expect Is The Wolverine

Deadpool IS not certain.Not only could Fox come away with the lesson that
only the cast from X-Men,X2,The Last Stand can carry X-Men films.Plus
Ryan Reynolds' schedule IS also a factor.

It Is very likely X4 Is the most likely film after The Wolverine to be made.

If marvel Studios were to get their rights they would not continue the series but reboot It.And even then no telling when we would actully see a film.
Marvel still hasn't made any announcements on a Thor sequel.May I remind people Ant-Man was announced back In 2007 and In 2011 It Is no sooner at getting made.They may talk about Black Widow and Shield spinoffs but no real move has been made on them.After The Avengers the only Marvel Studios film with schedule Is Iron Man 3.Marvel so far has shown little Intrest besides talk on nonAvengers projects.

Marvel would want to Include more Ultimate elements and Ignore Classic Marvel.Marvel Studios would never have done a film like First Class
set In 1960's and a Silver age Marvel film.

It remains to be seen rather the Avengers will be the Avengers or the Ultimites with the Avengers name.They have an obsession with using the
TV series Hulk merged with Ultimate elements at Ignoring the 616 Hulk.

And can Marvel do films with quality of X-Men,X2,and First Class?Ignore
First Iron Man and consider do you think Iron Man 2 and Thor are better than
X-men,X2,and First Class?

First off what the hell kind of question is "can Marvel do films with quality of x-men,X2 and FC....ignore the first Iron man"? WTF? IM is probably one of the top 2 or 3 CB movies of all time so hell yeah they can.

Second I thought Thor was better than X-men FC, but that doesn't mean I didn't like X-men FC. They are very different movies so it's hard to compare. I thought Thor was very epic and Hiddleston, just did a phenominal job and by far was the best villian portrayed in a Marvel film. Iron Man2 is alot better than most give it credit for, not quite as good as FC, but I'd take it over the first X-men movie.

Finally, I don't know what you're talking about with the Ultimate stuff. There's some in there, but iron man is 616 IM, Thor is 616 Thor. The only Ultimate stuff is Nick Fury is a black guy.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Thor I liked more than FC overall, but I think FC had a better plot/pacing. But, Hemms and Hiddleston were so good in their roles I rank it slightly over FC. Plus, Thor was slightly more polished visually. It's close though.

 

[Downhere]

As much as I loved Thor, it doesn't hold a candle to FC, mostly because it lacks the depth and emotional weight that FC portrayed.

 

[Raiden]

I thought I was the only person around here that thought doing an X4 at this point, was a bad idea. Especially now that First Class has been released.

Yeah, aside from the fact that X3 was a lousy movie, it also made any sequel after that problematic because it'll be forced to reverse several important things from that movie, such as the death/rebirth of Prof. Xavier, the whole mutant cure thing (hinted by Magneto at the final scene), and the death of several characters like Cyclops and Jean Grey. Like Superman 3 & 4, I think it'll be a bad idea to make a sequel from and FC is needed to avoid the whole situation. And the GA will be even more confused to see FC and then later have X4 came along later.

 

[JP]

Or any sense of scope.