Days of Future Past The Official X-Men: First Class Rate and Review Thread

[c-saw]

I'd join you but I think the eye rolling would be a waste of my energy.

C-Saw, this is similar in principle to the RT meter. Often in the days before a film's release, the early reviews almost always push the meter up to 100%. But as the dust disperses and more of the reviews filter though, and once all the reviews are collated, good and bad, the meter scales down and the final tally is often the true measure of the quality of the film (though of course even that's subjective).

This happens even to the best films. You need to relax, mate.

I am fully aware of early review scores and the notion of average but thanks for explaining it either way. I expected the average scores to be 4 or above. Now I don't see that happening as more and more 3, 3.5 review are coming out as opposed to 4.5,5

Bottom line: I expected this to get similar scores compared to the best comic book movies.

 

[pyromaniac]

Unless you can make comparisons where the best films had a similar 'batting average' prior to their release, I wouldn't worry just yet. It's still early days and we have a ways to go with all the reviews.

 

[BMM]

I am fully aware of early review scores and the notion of average but thanks for explaining it either way. I expected the average scores to be 4 or above. Now I don't see that happening as more and more 3, 3.5 review are coming out as opposed to 4.5,5

Bottom line: I expected this to get similar scores compared to the best comic book movies.

Right now, it IS getting scores comparable to the best comic book movies. There are more 5/5 scores than there are 3/5 scores, and the first 3/5 score via Empire is the same score the same critic gave to Iron Man.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

not when they could have been 4

This movie is getting worse scores with each day. At first I was sure this would easily beat Thor as far as reviews go but now I'm not so sure

mattsmoviereviews - 3.5/5

where are the 5 stars?

You do know that Thor's score is below Fast 5 on Rotten Tomatoes. Early reviews really don't mean anything.

 

[BMM]

Exactly. There are people proclaiming Thor to be Marvel's best, placing it above what many consider some of the genre's best, and it has 52 rotten reviews.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

Exactly. There are people proclaiming Thor to be Marvel's best, placing it above what many consider some of the genre's best, and it has 52 rotten reviews.

I'm more concerned about the box office than the reviews. If it doesn't do well at the box office in spite of the good reviews, then we may not get that trilogy.

Right now it's opening in a tough place. Hangover II will explode this weekend and will probably have good numbers the next weekend as well.
Hopefully enough X Men fans are off the fence and will come out and support the film.

 

[c-saw]

You do know that Thor's score is below Fast 5 on Rotten Tomatoes. Early reviews really don't mean anything.

Early reviews usually don't mean squat however they tend to be more inflated. If these are supposed to be the higher / early scores then the rest of them can only be worse.

I'm curious how it will be perceived by american critics.

I'm more concerned about the box office than the reviews. If it doesn't do well at the box office in spite of the good reviews, then we may not get that trilogy.

Right now it's opening in a tough place. Hangover II will explode this weekend and will probably have good numbers the next weekend as well.
Hopefully enough X Men fans are off the fence and will come out and support the film.

difference being that hangover 2 is getting pummeled in reviews

 

[craigdbfan]

Right now, it IS getting scores comparable to the best comic book movies. There are more 5/5 scores than there are 3/5 scores, and the first 3/5 score via Empire is the same score the same critic gave to Iron Man.

Exactly.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

Early reviews usually don't mean squat however they tend to be more inflated. If these are supposed to be the higher / early scores then the rest of them can only be worse.

I'm curious how it will be perceived by american critics.

You're right they could get worse. But that's not set in stone. We'll just have to wait and see. I'm not gonna worry about it at all. I'm stilll gonna see the movie no matter what.

 

[BMM]

I'm more concerned about the box office than the reviews. If it doesn't do well at the box office in spite of the good reviews, then we may not get that trilogy.

Right now it's opening in a tough place. Hangover II will explode this weekend and will probably have good numbers the next weekend as well.
Hopefully enough X Men fans are off the fence and will come out and support the film.

I'm hoping that, because it's Memorial Day Weekend, a lot of people who want to see Hangover II will see it this weekend, leaving enough leeway for First Class next weekend. Personally, I never thought First Class was going to be a smash hit at the box office. I've only begun to think it may do better than I initially expected, thanks to a lot of the positive buzz it's garnered in the last few weeks. I'm hoping for the best, though. It sounds like it deserves it.

 

[c-saw]

You're right they could get worse. But that's not set in stone. We'll just have to wait and see. I'm not gonna worry about it at all. I'm stilll gonna see the movie no matter what.

I'm gonna see it too but I was expecting this to be one of the best CBMs ever made and the scores and reception to reflect that.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

Early reviews usually don't mean squat however they tend to be more inflated. If these are supposed to be the higher / early scores then the rest of them can only be worse.

I'm curious how it will be perceived by american critics.



difference being that hangover 2 is getting pummeled in reviews

I'm not following you. I'm not talking about reviews, I'm talking about box office. Fans seem to be enjoying it in spite of the bad reviews. They are selling out midnights all over the place.

 

[c-saw]

I'm not following you. I'm not talking about reviews, I'm talking about box office. Fans seem to be enjoying it in spite of the bad reviews.

and when a movie is getting harsh reviews you might expect it to suffer at the box office, right?

fans don't always bring in the big dough. Regular moviegoers do.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

I'm gonna see it too but I was expecting this to be one of the best CBMs ever made and the scores and reception to reflect that.

Can I ask why you had those expectations?

I didn't really have any expectations. I just want it to be good. Good enough for me to want to see more than once.

 

[josh8]

I'm more concerned about the box office than the reviews. If it doesn't do well at the box office in spite of the good reviews, then we may not get that trilogy.

Right now it's opening in a tough place. Hangover II will explode this weekend and will probably have good numbers the next weekend as well.
Hopefully enough X Men fans are off the fence and will come out and support the film.

That's my worry too. The X-Men movies have never really been able to translate good reviews into box office legs (X2, for example). They're always "open big, fall fast". But I guess everyone involved knows that they're rebuilding a franchise, so if the returns are decent, then it's a step in the right direction for them.

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

and when a movie is getting harsh reviews you might expect it to suffer at the box office, right?

fans don't always bring in the big dough. Regular moviegoers do.

I don't equate Box Office with good or bad reviews when it comes to sequels.

 

[c-saw]

Can I ask why you had those expectations?

a) the director and his crew
b) the script sounded solid
c) the cast is very good
d) all the footage we've seen so far
e) the director and his crew

I don't equate Box Office with good or bad reviews when it comes to sequels.

that's also true to a certain extent

but in this case both of them are sequels (sort of ), you'd think that positive reviews would tip the balance enough

 

[pyromaniac]

That's my worry too. The X-Men movies have never really been able to translate good reviews into box office legs (X2, for example). They're always "open big, fall fast". But I guess everyone involved knows that they're rebuilding a franchise, so if the returns are decent, then it's a step in the right direction for them.

Other than the rushed production time, I'm sure they'll have already revisited the business model. The overall success of X2 did spawn the next two films, albeit less than stellar.

 

[BMM]

and when a movie is getting harsh reviews you might expect it to suffer at the box office, right?

fans don't always bring in the big dough. Regular moviegoers do.

And regular movie goers don't care about things like Matt's Movie Reviews.

 

[pyromaniac]

and when a movie is getting harsh reviews you might expect it to suffer at the box office, right?

You know that's not necessarily the case right?

 

[c-saw]

And regular movie goers don't care about things like Matt's Movie Reviews.

but they do care about empire. The whole point is if the rest of the reviews will fall in the 3-4 area or the 4-5 one.

You know that's not necessarily the case right?

sure

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

a) the director and his crew
b) the script sounded solid
c) the cast is very good
d) all the footage we've seen so far
e) the director and his crew



that's also true to a certain extent

but in this case both of them are sequels (sort of ), you'd think that positive reviews would tip the balance enough

First of all this is not a sequel it is prequel. This is something not easy to get right. They have to make sure they balance enough stuff with not too much stuff just in case they don't get to the next movie.

Second of all, the director and his crew have not done a film of this magnitude. As good as he is, there are bound to be mis steps.

Last, he was on a serious time table. He had to do what he had to within a certain budget at a rushed pace. Some things are bound to be off.

Those are my reasons for not expecting the world from this production. Like I said, I expect it to be good. If it's good enough to give me a thrill, I'm happy.

 

[BMM]

but they do care about empire.

Debatable, as the world just rewarded Pirates of the Caribbean's 2 star score with the third largest opening ever.

 

[c-saw]

First of all this is not a sequel it is prequel.

thank you cpt obvious. I was talking in terms of how audience will perceive it. Boith hangover 2 and first class are new entries in well kown series. - "the new x-men vs the new hangover"

Second of all, the director and his crew have not done a film of this magnitude. As good as he is, there are bound to be mis steps.

says who and based on what? If a person has done a task A doesn't mean they'll be able to do a similar albeit bigger task B? I don't agree.



filmjuice - 4/5

"With a compelling story, punctuated with humour and action, X-Men: First Class is everything that both die-hard fans and newcomers alike could have hoped for."

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

http://www.filmjuice.com/x-men-first-class.html

Here you go. Filmjuice gave it 4/5.t:

This should help you sleep better.