The Dark Knight The Oscar Push!

[Doctor Jones]

Daniel Day Lewis in a musical? I thought he chose his roles carefully? This makes me frown.

Looking forward to the Vietnam war film with him though.

 

[batman11]

Daniel Day Lewis in a musical? I thought he chose his roles carefully? This makes me frown.

Are you implying that it is impossible to make a musical that is also a good film?

 

[SuperZer0]

 

[scifiwolf]

WVsax27 posted both of those 10 days ago, but they're still nice to see (especially Nolan).

 

[WVsax27]

Art Directors and Audio Society(Sound Mixers) are on Saturday, Film Editors and Cinematographers are on Sunday.

 

[Kargo Warrior]

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-co...2-2009/the-dacolbert-code---oscar-predictions

 

[Anita18]

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-co...2-2009/the-dacolbert-code---oscar-predictions

ZOMG Stephen mentioned TDK??? :heart:

I haven't see the last two episodes yet.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Are you implying that it is impossible to make a musical that is also a good film?

No, but I don't like most musicals, (except Blues Brothers, if you count that which is actually a cool musical) Grease a movie I truly passionately HATE.

But Lewis in something like this seems strange to me. And its the same dude who did Chicago doing another musical. You would think Lewis would realize this. Hell, for all I know, it could be good. But I definately won't see it.

Like I said, I'm more excited for the Scorsese - Del Toro - Lewis team up for a Vietnam film. Just thinking of Scorsese doing a Vietnam film gets me excited.

 

[Nirvana]

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-co...2-2009/the-dacolbert-code---oscar-predictions

That was hilarious. t:

 

[Anita18]

Winners for the International Cinephile Society. No, I've never heard of them either (they're apparently made up of people who used to be on Oscarwatch.com I think) but their nominations were awesomely off-the-cuff. And I mean, AWESOME.

TOP 10 FILMS OF THE YEAR
01. Happy-Go-Lucky
02. Milk
03. A Christmas Tale
04 The Dark Knight
05. Hunger
06. WALL•E
07. Flight of the Red Balloon
08. The Wrestler
09. In Bruges
10. Rachel Getting Married

DIRECTOR (TIE): Christopher Nolan - The Dark Knight AND Gus van Sant - Milk

SUPPORTING ACTOR: Heath Ledger - The Dark Knight

http://cinephilesociety.blogspot.com/2009/02/international-cinephile-society-has.html

 

[WVsax27]

The Sound Mixers awarded Slumdog Millionaire...they don't always match the oscars though.

 

[Kargo Warrior]

The Sound Mixers awarded Slumdog Millionaire...they don't always match the oscars though.

At this point i'm happy and satisfied that Heath will win cause this Slum overpraise is getting ridiculous.I have very little hope for all the other categories.

On the brighter side every other movie goes home empty handed too t:

 

[byte19]

Oh no. I meant them too. Bland percussion and simplistic melodylines, and basically a rock soundtrack. Yeah i thought they sucked too. Tho Ironman music supervisor did have some decent taste.

but... the supervisor is.... Hans. i just got that now.....

 

[Anita18]

At this point i'm happy and satisfied that Heath will win cause this Slum overpraise is getting ridiculous.I have very little hope for all the other categories.

It is getting rather silly. I mean, it's a good movie, but it's not up there with Schindler's List, which I think it's actually matched in precursor wins.

My sound recordist/mixing friend (who works primarily in TV, most recently on The Sopranos and John Adams) was very disappointed that Slumdog was nominated for sound anything at the Oscars, if that tells you anything about how people who actually work in the industry feel about awards shows.

 

[WVsax27]

TDK won the Fantasy Film category from the Art Director's Guild...http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/art-directors-guild-adg-announces/story.aspx?guid={C1403F5C-FBE5-4CBD-A83B-F262027A597B}&dist=msr_ 1

 

[WVsax27]

The CAS started giving out awards in 1994, since then they have only matched the sound mixing(or best sound as it was once called) Oscar 7 times and only twice since 2000(Gladiator and Dreamgirls). It looks like they have been willing to go with what they feel is a better film where as the Academy has been going after loud action films and musicals

 

[byte19]

finally a win for tdk overall! but..... you see who won contemporary? give me a break!!!

 

[Kargo Warrior]

Slumdog won the Editing guild too...

Most overated movie in a terrible award season...I can't believe they are thinking the movie is the best in every category of all the movies this year.

Just mind-numbingly sentimental and ridiculous...not unlike the movie itself.

 

[The Chris]

You know I love Slumdog Millionaire, my number 2 of 2008, but it is not so much better than the rest of the films and shouldn't be winning every single award it's nominated for. Out of all the years this decade, 2008 should not have been one where one movie won everything. The load should have been shared because it's not so much better than milk and benjamin button and some of the others. It won the sound award, and in a year with The Dark Knight and Wall-E, that's just ridiculous. It won the sag best ensemble, and in a year with Milk, Frost/Nixon, The Dark Knight, and Doubt, that's just ridiculous. And I love the movie, but damn, why is everyone giving it everything. That's really the big reason why I haven't changed my mind about not watching the oscars. One movie is winning everything.

 

[Asr]

^ Totally agree. The last time a single movie deserved to sweep multiple awards was LotR: RotK back in '03. I thought Slumdog was a great movie too but IMO, at best it deserves a nom for just Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay.

I'm hedging my bets it's going to win the important Oscars anyway. The Academy doesn't usually give major awards to foreign movies, it usually likes to give awards to movies made in the Hollywood establishment.

 

[Kargo Warrior]

You know I love Slumdog Millionaire, my number 2 of 2008, but it is not so much better than the rest of the films and shouldn't be winning every single award it's nominated for. Out of all the years this decade, 2008 should not have been one where one movie won everything. The load should have been shared because it's not so much better than milk and benjamin button and some of the others. It won the sound award, and in a year with The Dark Knight and Wall-E, that's just ridiculous. It won the sag best ensemble, and in a year with Milk, Frost/Nixon, The Dark Knight, and Doubt, that's just ridiculous. And I love the movie, but damn, why is everyone giving it everything. That's really the big reason why I haven't changed my mind about not watching the oscars. One movie is winning everything.

Well that's my point...when i saw the movie i liked it,it's a decent flick albeit cliche filed and completely predictably after 5 minutes.

But it has received so much acclaim and why?It has neither the best acting,nor story/screenplay of the year...in fact there are a lot of movies that have both a more complex and intriguing screenplays and far,far superior acting.

I'm not a cynic at all...but this movie does not present real love as a concept or a reality...it's a lemonade of a movie,a WWE type of an illusion.

Movies like this one and The Notebook shows how delusional people are,still believing in the same Disney type-fairytales which have zero ammount of reality...it's like still believing Hulk Hogan is the baddest man on the planet.

Sorry to all offended parties but when intelegent,romantic,thoughtfull and inspiring movies like Before Sunset and Before Sunrise are ignored for stuff like Slumdog,it really does make one question whether selling fairytales instead of food for thought has what art has become....especially movies.

 

[byte19]

but Hulk is the baddest old guy on the planet.... lol ok can't keep a straight face on that one.

 

[Pennyworth]

My local critics sounding off on Heath being a lock:

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/Oscar_Picks.html

Supporting Actor: Is there any choice but Ledger?
By Carrie Rickey and Steven Rea

Each weekday until the Oscars on Sunday, Inquirer film critics Carrie Rickey and Steven Rea will discuss their picks for the winners in one of the six major categories - best supporting actress, best supporting actor, best director, best actor, best actress and best picture.

Best Supporting Actor
The nominees for performance by an actor in a supporting role are: Josh Brolin, Milk; Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder; Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt; Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight; and Michael Shannon, Revolutionary Road.

Steven: I was in New York earlier this month, near the Javits Center where ComicCon East was happening, and in the Skyline Diner a guy walked by in full Heath Ledger-as-The Joker gear - not only the costume, but that sad, scary, smeared-greasepaint face. It was creepy, and I only bring it up because Heath is going to win the supporting actor award for The Dark Knight -- his performance is the heart and (dark) soul of the movie, and the absolute shock of knowing it's his next-to-final screen performance clinches it. And he's still walking around - not just as a fanboy's eerie replicant, but walking around in our heads: the memory of his work (Brokeback Mountain, Dark Knight, Monster's Ball, I'm Not There...) vivid and alive.
So, I think it will be an absolute jolt from outer space then if Josh Brolin nabs the prize for playing the unstable city pol who sneaks into San Francisco's City Hall with a gun in Milk, or Robert Downey Jr. wins for his bold and funny Method Actor blackface shtick in Tropic Thunder, or Michael Shannon as the mad oracle of Revolutionary Road.
Then, there's Philip Seymour Hoffman, shunted into the supporting actor category when, really, his Father Flynn in Doubt - a young priest in 60s New York suspected off molesting a student - is lead role stuff. If, by some strange twist, Ledger isn't the winner, then Hoffman gets the call. But don't count on it.
Is that the way you see it, Carrie?

Carrie: I think Ledger's win in this category is a foregone conclusion. And not because of Academy (Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences) sentiment about his early demise, either. But because his Joker is an unsettling creation: A mad brilliant gamesman (and madman) who checkmates everyone he plays. It was only after I watched his performance here that I learned Ledger was, in fact, a chess virtuoso. His presumptive win over P.S. Hoffman (who is quite fantastic as parish priest Father Flynn in Doubt) has a certain resonance because Hoffman's Oscar-winning performance as Truman Capote beat out Ledger's as Ennis Del Mary in Brokeback Mountain. While I think Robert Downey, Jr. is hilarious in Tropic Thunder and Josh Brolin monstrous scary in Milk and Michael Shannon unforgettable in Revolutinary Road, I don't think Ledger will be forgotten or overlooked this year. We don't have to wait for the envelope to be unsealed.

 

[hatebox]

Well that's my point...when i saw the movie i liked it,it's a decent flick albeit cliche filed and completely predictably after 5 minutes.

But it has received so much acclaim and why?It has neither the best acting,nor story/screenplay of the year...in fact there are a lot of movies that have both a more complex and intriguing screenplays and far,far superior acting.

I'm not a cynic at all...but this movie does not present real love as a concept or a reality...it's a lemonade of a movie,a WWE type of an illusion.

Movies like this one and The Notebook shows how delusional people are,still believing in the same Disney type-fairytales which have zero ammount of reality...it's like still believing Hulk Hogan is the baddest man on the planet.

Sorry to all offended parties but when intelegent,romantic,thoughtfull and inspiring movies like Before Sunset and Before Sunrise are ignored for stuff like Slumdog,it really does make one question whether selling fairytales instead of food for thought has what art has become....especially movies.

I don't disagree with you, but you can deride all the other oscar nominees too - Ben Button is corny as hell, Frost/Nixon is a glorified play, Milk is just a great performance, The Reader is just plain terrible, etc.

It's nothing new that one film wins everything - I suppose I'd have it'd be slumdog as much as the above.

 

[Anita18]

I'm not a cynic at all...but this movie does not present real love as a concept or a reality...it's a lemonade of a movie,a WWE type of an illusion.

Movies like this one and The Notebook shows how delusional people are,still believing in the same Disney type-fairytales which have zero ammount of reality...it's like still believing Hulk Hogan is the baddest man on the planet.

Sorry to all offended parties but when intelegent,romantic,thoughtfull and inspiring movies like Before Sunset and Before Sunrise are ignored for stuff like Slumdog,it really does make one question whether selling fairytales instead of food for thought has what art has become....especially movies.

I have no problem that the movie is a fairy tale. Nobody says that award-winning movies have to be plausible.

What I do have a problem with is all of tech wins. From what I understand, they simply took a digital video camera into Mumbai and shot the movie almost guerilla-style. It isn't very deliberate in its art direction or its sound, although I guess a case could be made for its cinematography, if you didn't count that they obviously didn't do a lot of complicated lighting setups.

And these awards people are saying that Slumdog, a low-budget movie shot guerilla-style, has better sound, art direction, and cinematography than Wall-E (sound), Ben Button (art direction, cinematography), AND TDK (art direction, cinematography, sound)?

That's the joke to me.

It's nothing new that one film wins everything - I suppose I'd have it'd be slumdog as much as the above.

Again, I don't mind that it's winning Best Picture, Screenplay, or Director. But one film winning everything usually means it's a high-budget, tech powerhouse such as Titanic or LOTR:ROTK. It's a joke that such a small film is winning these tech awards, especially when the tech isn't all that thought-out. Wall-E DESERVES best sound because the first half of the movie depended solely on it. But I bet you that next Sunday it won't get it.

At least Slumdog's not up for best visual effects.