Box Office Mojo: Is Batman a hero?
Christopher Nolan: Hero has become such a bandied about word, used so broadly, and it ceases to have any meaning. Is Batman a hero? Certainly, he's more a hero than superhero [but] I think the word "hero" is very problematic. He has no superpowers, but he's a heroic figure. The reason to me he's heroic is because he's altruistic. He's trying to help other people with no benefit to himself and, whatever motivates himand this was the tricky thing to really try and nail with Batman Begins as opposed to previous incarnationsis the difference between him and a common vigilante, the Punisher or Charles Bronson in Death Wish. To me, the difference is he is not seeking personal vengeance. We did not want his quest to be for vengeance, we wanted it to be for justice. That's what sends him looking for an outlet for his rage and frustration. What he chooses to do with it is, I believe, selfless, and therefore, heroic. And that, to me, is really the distinctionselfishness versus selflessnessand that is very noble. But it is a very fine distinction. I do think he is a heroic figure.
BOM: But he does gain a valuejustice is a value, even to Batman. Is he really selflessor does he want to have a life to call his own?
Nolan: To me, he's not selfish in terms of how the word is generally understoodhe's not obtaining personal gratification in an immediate sense. He's having to obliterate his own immediate [short-term] self-interest. I could tap into the reality of the story if I felt that he saw his mission as an achievable goal.
BOM: So his is a higher, more rational form of selfishness, as against irrational, short-range immediate gratification?
Nolan: Yes.