The Wolverine The Stealth Express of Doom News & Discussion Thread:

[The Infernal]

very cool

not to nit pick, but, I am confused about something tho, its said that he save the guy during the war, so wouldn't that have been before he went throw the weapon X project and took the name Wolverine...? yet the way Yukio says "its an honor to meet the Wolverine" its like that's a name the Employer knew him by, and told the story about... or do they just know him by that name cause they've been tracking him down for so long

It would probably just be because they were tracking him. I wouldn't expect to see The Wolverine actively contradict Origins.

 

[Nathan]

So, what's the deal with the Viper skinning? I thought she was just a human?

 

[psyonic]

James Mangold said she's immune to toxins .. maybe she's a mutant? Her eyes are definitely not human when she sheds ..

 

[Silvermoon]

Domestic trailer (some differences from the International)
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[Donut]

I hope we get some reasoning with why he left the Mansion again. At the end of X3 he seemed happy there

 

[BoredGuy]

its true
he went from happy-ish teacher of children back to wooly wilderness man
hopefully they explain that

 

[SpideyFan866]

very cool

not to nit pick, but, I am confused about something tho, its said that he save the guy during the war, so wouldn't that have been before he went throw the weapon X project and took the name Wolverine...? yet the way Yukio says "its an honor to meet the Wolverine" its like that's a name the Employer knew him by, and told the story about... or do they just know him by that name cause they've been tracking him down for so long

Probably the latter.

 

[SpideyFan866]

It would probably just be because they were tracking him. I wouldn't expect to see The Wolverine actively contradict Origins.

I don't think Origins is being considered canon. Only X1-3 and first class.

 

[James_Smith]

I hope we get some reasoning with why he left the Mansion again. At the end of X3 he seemed happy there

There was a deleted scene which would have taken place after that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOc_7H-_7oY

I guess with Jean and the Professor dead, and Rogue no longer a mutant, he felt there was no reason to stay? Also, the realization of Jean's death may have taken some time to sink in (at which point, he might have started drinking heavily; become unsociable, and his teaching position would have been untenable).

 

[Donut]

I doubt they would tell people to watch that deleted scene. They need to explain it IN THE MOVIE

 

[SpideyFan866]

I doubt they would tell people to watch that deleted scene. They need to explain it IN THE MOVIE

Which they likely will.

Since The Wolverine is the last film before DOFP, they will likely use it to create a little explanation as to whats been going on since the events of X3.

Though according to some interviews with Jackman and Mangold, they seem to have disbanded in that time.

 

[Nathan]

Screw explanations. X3 sucked anyway. The less they bring it up, the better.

 

[James_Smith]

I don't think Origins is being considered canon. Only X1-3 and first class.

Why on earth would it not be considered canon? This quote from James Mangold makes reference to Origins:

"I like to think that we’re out to make that Wolverine movie that people have been looking forward to seeing, which takes on some of the darker and more intense aspects of the character, and his own journey, that have not necessarily been possible in the origin story"

Also the bone claws and being a WW2 soldier are consistent with Origins.

 

[The Infernal]

I don't think Origins is being considered canon. Only X1-3 and first class.

All they have said is the movie is 'standalone'. They've never confirmed Origins isn't in continuity. Right now it's only fans that are saying that.

 

[Nathan]

Well, as long as it never directly refers to anything from Origins, I'll still pretend like it never happened.

 

[SpideyFan866]

All they have said is the movie is 'standalone'. They've never confirmed Origins isn't in continuity. Right now it's only fans that are saying that.

True.

No one has explicitly said it wasn't, but no one has said it is.

 

[spideymouse]

James Mangold said she's immune to toxins .. maybe she's a mutant? Her eyes are definitely not human when she sheds ..

Chalk another one up to Fox waving around the lazy "let's just make everyone a mutant" stick. Previous appearances of said stick: Juggernaut, Deadpool. Hopefully they keep Yukio as a nonmutant.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Origins Is cannon.They just don't want to reference It too much.

Bone claws and being In WOrld War II are cannon from comics.Also It looks like Wolverine Is POW during the atomic bomb being dropped on Japan.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Juggernaut I didn't mind being a mutant, I think his origin is a little hokey anyway, and probably would have been a bit hard to swallow in context with the films, at least for the general audience.

 

[Nathan]

Deadpool isn't fair. Wade was human. Then they gave him powers, like in the comic. But instead of just giving him a healing factor, they added optic blasts, teleportation and retractable blades.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Chalk another one up to Fox waving around the lazy "let's just make everyone a mutant" stick. Previous appearances of said stick: Juggernaut, Deadpool. Hopefully they keep Yukio as a nonmutant.

Juggernaut was made mutant In ultimate X-Men.Deadpool did come out of weapon X project.

Scripts written prior to james Mangold taking over as director had Wolverine as
Solo mutant In film.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Origins sucked balls. The only thing I did like was Wade at the beginning.

 

[James_Smith]

Also, these quotes strongly suggest that he considers Origins canon:

“It’s set after ‘X-Men 3,’ but I wouldn’t call it a sequel to ‘X-Men 3.’ You have a choice the second you enter a world like this with... three movies, a ‘Wolverine’ origin movie … You have decide where you’re going to exist in relation to all these"

“For me, watching this decade of superhero films and having not participated while I was making other movies, what was interesting to me – and it had not been done, with a few exceptions – was to be free to tell a real story of an immortal character. Too often these films are burdened with origin stories that produce a very unwieldy script, because you spend half the film creating the character and then you only have half the film to then tell a story about the character. When stepping into a franchise, one of the scary things – for a person in my position – is that it’s like directing the fourth episode of a TV series, and everything is on autopilot. They’re doing what they’re going to do, and what are you really going to bring to it?”

“What I felt like I hadn’t seen as a comic book fan, was I felt I hadn’t seen Logan and his rage. That sense of darkness. Without getting into the ‘Wolverine’ movie, which is an origin story, with the ‘X-Men’ movies he’s part of a team, so he gets little scenelets, but they’re essentially team movies. The liberty I have making a film like this is I can find him. I’m not cutting away to catch you up on any of the Thunderbird team members. It’s his emotional experience, his trajectory, his sense of loss, and his own ambivalence about his powers and talents.”

 

[Nathan]

Origins sucked balls. The only thing I did like was Wade at the beginning.

Pre-transformation, Wade was the only good thing about the Movie.

 

[The Infernal]

True.

No one has explicitly said it wasn't, but no one has said it is.

The absence of evidence is not evidence itself. Until they come out and say the film doesn't consider Origins canon then we can't go around saying Origins isn't canon.