The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[Jay#1]

Wolverine

 

[Paradox1]

Hulk is experienced himself though considering the amount of fights he has, and while what you say about anger is true on a human level, when it is your main power, it is going to work for you, as you say Hulk is uncontrollable, meaning it is very difficult to beat him, and Thor rarely does..

one of my personal heroes Muhammed Ali talked alot in the ring why? cause he wanted to make the other guy mad(case in point Ali vs Foreman). Hulk experience is null cause his anger takes over, his mind goes blank then his intincts take over. Any knowledge he could draw from would be lost. It is true that his anger would just overpower some leading to easy victories but when someone stood up to him he'd loose. Reed Richards is someone who should be able to beat him regularily his elastic power should be able to wrap around the hulk then use the hulks own strength to hold him it would be like struggling in quick sand.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea letting anger control your actions in a fight can be detrimental. I have enough experiance from that! .

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Even if the Hulk were totally in control of himself in fights, he's still dumb as a post, so I doubt he really learns from his fights either way. He was just shown in Mighty Avengers #21 trying to punch snow.

 

[Mutagen]

Hulk's ever increasing strength more than make up for his stupidity.

 

[Mr. Green]

Even if the Hulk were totally in control of himself in fights, he's still dumb as a post, so I doubt he really learns from his fights either way. He was just shown in Mighty Avengers #21 trying to punch snow.

Yeah, but remember in Planet Hulk how he began to learn from his mistakes? "Hulk slash." and all that?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but remember how Loeb made it so none of that matters because he's dumber than ever now?

 

[Silverstein]

Hulk's dumb again? I thought Hulk had Banner's intelligence...

 

[pifpaf]

is not from marvel but he can beat hulk any time lol


is obelix ha ha ha ha i ca even eat him hi hi hi

 

[Phenomenal]

No one shows Ghost Rider any love?!

 

[Vanguard07]

Nope. Ghost Rider is extremely formidable but I've never seen any reason why'd be on any top ten list in terms of power.

yes Dr Strange claimed that his powers appeared limitless. So what? That claim hasnt been backed up by feats yet.

If you look at it by character (which I do) not entity or force like the LT or Celestials which shouldnt count. then here's how I see it.

In terms of overall power it'd be someone like Franklin Richards. Someone who Celestials are afraid of.

In terms of Strength my money goes to old incarnation Drax. Destroying a black hole with your bare hands is the biggest feat of strength i've ever seen.

I have no idea what Hulk's current strength level is at since he's back to one of his dumb angry personas so assuming he's at standard classic levels Thor's probably the physically Strongest there is right now.

Classic Thor has proven that he's always been of comparable strength to the Hulk (despite jobbing to him in most of their fights) and Thor is now Lord of Asgard and MUCH more powerful than classic levels what with the Rune magic and Thorforce powerup. Hulk hasn't had the same kind of growth.

Now comes the Hulk fans arguing that "the angrier hulk gets" stuff. Despite the fact that infinite potential for strength is not infinite strength.

 

[random_havoc]

Nope. Ghost Rider is extremely formidable but I've never seen any reason why'd be on any top ten list in terms of power.

yes Dr Strange claimed that his powers appeared limitless. So what? That claim hasnt been backed up by feats yet.

If you look at it by character (which I do) not entity or force like the LT or Celestials which shouldnt count. then here's how I see it.

In terms of overall power it'd be someone like Franklin Richards. Someone who Celestials are afraid of.

In terms of Strength my money goes to old incarnation Drax. Destroying a black hole with your bare hands is the biggest feat of strength i've ever seen.

I have no idea what Hulk's current strength level is at since he's back to one of his dumb angry personas so assuming he's at standard classic levels Thor's probably the physically Strongest there is right now.

Classic Thor has proven that he's always been of comparable strength to the Hulk (despite jobbing to him in most of their fights) and Thor is now Lord of Asgard and MUCH more powerful than classic levels what with the Rune magic and Thorforce powerup. Hulk hasn't had the same kind of growth.

Now comes the Hulk fans arguing that "the angrier hulk gets" stuff. Despite the fact that infinite potential for strength is not infinite strength.

Where the heck's the Sentry in your list? If Hulk's back to classic levels then Sentry ranks at least between him and Thor.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd say the Sentry ranks higher than Thor, but he never really uses his power for fear of going crazy or unleashing the Void or one of his many, many other problems.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

one of my personal heroes Muhammed Ali talked alot in the ring why? cause he wanted to make the other guy mad(case in point Ali vs Foreman). Hulk experience is null cause his anger takes over, his mind goes blank then his intincts take over. Any knowledge he could draw from would be lost. It is true that his anger would just overpower some leading to easy victories but when someone stood up to him he'd loose. Reed Richards is someone who should be able to beat him regularily his elastic power should be able to wrap around the hulk then use the hulks own strength to hold him it would be like struggling in quick sand.

But Hulk's anger works for him, making him heal faster and recovering faster as well as becoming stronger, all of this counteracts any disadvantage it may contain IMO.

Hulk's ever increasing strength more than make up for his stupidity.

Exactly.

Nope. Ghost Rider is extremely formidable but I've never seen any reason why'd be on any top ten list in terms of power.

yes Dr Strange claimed that his powers appeared limitless. So what? That claim hasnt been backed up by feats yet.

If you look at it by character (which I do) not entity or force like the LT or Celestials which shouldnt count. then here's how I see it.

In terms of overall power it'd be someone like Franklin Richards. Someone who Celestials are afraid of.

In terms of Strength my money goes to old incarnation Drax. Destroying a black hole with your bare hands is the biggest feat of strength i've ever seen.

I have no idea what Hulk's current strength level is at since he's back to one of his dumb angry personas so assuming he's at standard classic levels Thor's probably the physically Strongest there is right now.

Classic Thor has proven that he's always been of comparable strength to the Hulk (despite jobbing to him in most of their fights) and Thor is now Lord of Asgard and MUCH more powerful than classic levels what with the Rune magic and Thorforce powerup. Hulk hasn't had the same kind of growth.

Now comes the Hulk fans arguing that "the angrier hulk gets" stuff. Despite the fact that infinite potential for strength is not infinite strength.

Ghost Rider came the closest out of anyone to beating WWH, that is proof enough IMO. Reed and Dr. Strange were practically crying when he left the fight, as they knew it was probably their last chance to stop WWH.

I'd say the Sentry ranks higher than Thor, but he never really uses his power for fear of going crazy or unleashing the Void or one of his many, many other problems.

If Sentry ever did unleash though, he would pound Hulk and Thor no problem IMO. Only the Surfer could stand up to a fully unleashed Sentry IMO.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure the Surfer would get his ass kicked too. The Sentry, at full power, was supposedly a match for Galactus.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Double post.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Right, then yeah, Surfer would probably put up a good fight, but would get owned quite quickly.

 

[Paradox1]

I'm pretty sure the Surfer would get his ass kicked too. The Sentry, at full power, was supposedly a match for Galactus.

How could anything be a match for Galactus that is not above him in the celestial heirarchy?Being stronger than Galactus should be a law, like no one should be stronger or more powerful.Without moving out of the realm of being a hero or villian into something beyond good or evil.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't write it, I'm just telling you what the original Sentry mini says.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

I think that the only power the Sentry has is the power to create the memories and belief of his power in the minds of himself and others.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Were exactly do the likes of Nova, Quasar and Drax fit in on here, I havent heard them mentioned much.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Nova's distinctly less powerful than the Silver Surfer, as shown when the Surfer basically dominated him completely in a couple issues of Nova's comic recently.

Quasar's pretty much the same as a Green Lantern. The effectiveness of the powers depend entirely on who's using them. When Wendell Vaughn was Quasar, Quasar was a force to be reckoned with. Now that Phyla-Vell is Quasar, Quasar kind of sucks.

Drax used to be among the strongest in the universe, but he died and was reborn with new powers. Basically, he lost a lot of his strength, but he gained a lot more intelligence and became a much better fighter. So he's got relatively low super-strength now.

 

[random_havoc]

I think that the only power the Sentry has is the power to create the memories and belief o his power in the minds of himself and others.

This isn't backed up by anything on panel. I've generally only heard this theory from people that don't like Sentry (not that that's necessarily the case here).

In fact, contrary to your view, Dr Strange was the only one in the original mini that wasn't affected by the memory loss of the Sentry like everyone else, and he has confirmed the sentry's power. if anyone would know, he would (this was before his recent de-powering).

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Nova's distinctly less powerful than the Silver Surfer, as shown when the Surfer basically dominated him completely in a couple issues of Nova's comic recently.

Did Nova still have the entire world-mind/power of the Nova corps within him?

Quasar's pretty much the same as a Green Lantern. The effectiveness of the powers depend entirely on who's using them. When Wendell Vaughn was Quasar, Quasar was a force to be reckoned with. Now that Phyla-Vell is Quasar, Quasar kind of sucks.

I have just finished the first volume of Annhilation and was surprised how easily Annhilus killed him considering I have heard Quasar being compared to Superman in the past.

Drax used to be among the strongest in the universe, but he died and was reborn with new powers. Basically, he lost a lot of his strength, but he gained a lot more intelligence and became a much better fighter. So he's got relatively low super-strength now.

As I said above, just finished Annhilation 1 and Drax still seemed pretty strong, I thought he just lost the ability to fly and shoot energy from his hands?

 

[Silverstein]

nobody answered my question *pouts*