The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[theunseenmarvel]

I wonder if Skaar,The Hulk,Wolverine,and Daken will go ever go to family counsling together lol.

 

[Vanguard07]

why would they go together? and if they did why not include the Summers/grey and the Maximoff families?

 

[theunseenmarvel]

why would they go together? and if they did why not include the Summers/grey and the Maximoff families?

Good point Cyclops and Cable should go to and the reason why i was wondering because I thought it wuold be funny.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I wonder if Skaar,The Hulk,Wolverine,and Daken will go ever go to family counsling together lol.

Skaar and Daken would prob fight, then get along really well actually

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Or Skaar would kill Daken, which would be even better.

 

[Vanguard07]

seconded. Daken doesnt have any adamantium. Skaar would murder him easy.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

He would if writers let him do so.....

I wonder what the power level of Skaar will be especially if the Red King was sincere which I somehow doubt.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, given that everything on Sakaar seems to be scaled up to nearly the Hulk's level and Skaar is stronger than everyone he's come across on Sakaar so far, I'd say he's just below the Hulk in strength. What the Oldpower will contribute, I'm not sure. It seems to manifest in odd ways beyond the standard earth control.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

What do you mean "in the past"? These fights are almost always popularity contests. That's why the Hulk beats Thor all the time and Wolverine beats the Hulk every now and then.

Anyway, the first Surfer/Thor fight was in the late '60s, I think, in Silver Surfer #4.

Not sure about today but in the past they were more popularity contests, and seeing how it was an early Surfer story were he beat him, it makes me question the validity of the fight. I mean, the Silver Surfer beat Mephisto while on earth, THAT is a pretty tall order.

One thing that does make me laugh though is that Ghost Rider came he closest to beating WWHulk out of anyone, yet hasnt had a mention in this thread.

 

[Mutagen]

Was Ghost Rider's abilities measured in strength, or in "powers" ?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

More powers than raw strength, I think. I only saw bits and pieces of the fight.

Not sure about today but in the past they were more popularity contests, and seeing how it was an early Surfer story were he beat him, it makes me question the validity of the fight. I mean, the Silver Surfer beat Mephisto while on earth, THAT is a pretty tall order.

Fights between major heroes have always been popularity contests, so if you're gonna question the validity of one, you've gotta question the validity of all of them.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Was Ghost Rider's abilities measured in strength, or in "powers" ?

More powers, but he came the closest to beating WWH and according to Dr. Strange, was the only one that could have defeated him if he had a reason to.

More powers than raw strength, I think. I only saw bits and pieces of the fight.

Fights between major heroes have always been popularity contests, so if you're gonna question the validity of one, you've gotta question the validity of all of them.

Oh I do, dont worry, earlier in the thread I did say a lot of The Hulk's fights are suspect, which they are. But for me, The Silver Surfer would beat Thor every time.

 

[Vanguard07]

I disagree. I think SS would make a great fight of it and maybe pull out a victory now and then but perconally I think Thor would win more often than not.

 

[random_havoc]

I disagree. I think SS would make a great fight of it and maybe pull out a victory now and then but perconally I think Thor would win more often than not.

disagree

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Seconded, I think with all of his abilities SS would finish Thor off no problem, it'd be a great fight, but strength combined with SS's other abilites put him above Thor for me.

 

[Mutagen]

You think SS could lift Thor's hammer?

 

[random_havoc]

You think SS could lift Thor's hammer?

Not necessarily, but that's not a matter of strength but whether the enchantment on it will allow a person to or not.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I very much doubt the Surfer, a pacifist, could lift Mjolnir.

^Seconded, I think with all of his abilities SS would finish Thor off no problem, it'd be a great fight, but strength combined with SS's other abilites put him above Thor for me.

With Mjolnir, Thor has basically all of the same powers the Silver Surfer does, plus he's naturally stronger without having to divert energy away from other things to augment himself.

 

[Mutagen]

I very much doubt the Surfer, a pacifist, could lift Mjolnir.

With Mjolnir, Thor has basically all of the same powers the Silver Surfer does, plus he's naturally stronger without having to divert energy away from other things to augment himself.

So naturally, you probably think that Odin is stronger than Galactus. Was Odin alive before the universe was created too? That's a pretty tall order to top in terms of power.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Why would I think Odin is more powerful than Galactus? What do Odin and Galactus even have to do with anything? My comment was about Thor and the Silver Surfer.

 

[Mutagen]

Why would I think Odin is more powerful than Galactus? What do Odin and Galactus even have to do with anything? My comment was about Thor and the Silver Surfer.

Each one created some of the strongest begins in the Marvel Universe, at least in this thread, and you seem to have more knowledge of Odin than I, I know a fair amount about Galactus, and I believe Galactus to be the stronger of the two, but then again I don't know very much on how strong Odin could be.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Galactus is far more powerful than Odin. When they were first created and the power levels hadn't really evened out, Odin was up there with Galactus, but for the past 30 years or so, Odin's been well below him.

 

[Mutagen]

Then shouldn't Galactus' creations and heralds be more superior if he is the stronger?

 

[Franklin Richards]

A herald isn't the same as a son.

 

[Mutagen]

Whoa that's unreal; a creation that's more powerful than the one who designed it, but immortality mean never growing old, meaning that your son will never be more experienced than you, because you won't die.

Let's not forget we are talking about creations of a higher power too. A son is just another word for creation, well I hope so.