The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[X]

Yeah, people like to ignore that The Hulk was dead, nearly a skeleton from a single blast from a Thanos clone that would be lucky to be as powerful as the real thing.

 

[ang_hulk]

when was hulk a skeleton? and again,vector did the same thing.

 

[CBG]

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Funny how you used panels from the Planet Hulk: What If?, considering Hulk died from the Warp Core explosion rather than be empowered by it.

Hulk#1 in MU.

No he's not. Cosmics, reality warpers > the Hulk

That's Photon, aka Genis-Vel, aka a clone of the origional Capt. Marvel that has Sentry on his knees. The same kind of blasts that Thanos casually shrugged off. You might wanna rethink your thoughts on Sentry rapping Thanos if Sentry is on his knees from something Thanos shrugged off. Not saying Sentry at his full potential can't give Thanos a run for his money or even beat him, but it would not be a rape either way. IMO Thanos walks away with more wins than Sentry does, anywhere from a 6-8 outta 10 IMO.

Also, no I don't agree with Hulk > Captain Marvel.

To be fair, Captain Marvel as Photon was more powerful than he was in the past.

 

[DoomRulz]

Funny how you used panels from the Planet Hulk: What If?, considering Hulk died from the Warp Core explosion rather than be empowered by it.

Plus the fact that it was total rubbish. There's no way Blackbolt's voice would take Sentry out.

 

[CBG]

Plus the fact that it was total rubbish. There's no way Blackbolt's voice would take Sentry out.

Well, it's an alternate universe.

Whereas 616 Hulk received a massive power-up thanks to the warp core explosion, he was promptly killed off in the What If?.

 

[DoomRulz]

Well, it's an alternate universe.

Whereas 616 Hulk received a massive power-up thanks to the warp core explosion, he was promptly killed off in the What If?.

Fair enough.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I could buy Black Bolt's voice taking Sentry down. Not just a whisper, though. He'd need to be screaming at the top of his lungs to even have a chance of taking the Sentry out.

 

[rodhulk]

That would probably depend on Sentry's power level at the time, though.

And I don't have the comic but did BB ever let loose a scream when he fought Thor way back?

 

[Phenomenal]

Yeah, people like to ignore that The Hulk was dead, nearly a skeleton from a single blast from a Thanos clone that would be lucky to be as powerful as the real thing.

Again, Hulk did NOT die from the blast and it was not from a Thanos clone.Thanos absorbed the power of the Terraformer. Thanos was a twenty-feet cosmically powered being. In X-Man & Hulk '98, Hulk and Nate Grey was able to defeat Thanos...Nate gave Hulk an Upgrade by sending his psi-armor which amplified the Hulk's punches much more and Hulk was able to defeat Thanos.

Funny how you used panels from the Planet Hulk: What If?, considering Hulk died from the Warp Core explosion rather than be empowered by it.

Wait, Hulk Died from a Core Explosion?

How powerful was this explosion?

You might wanna rethink your thoughts on Sentry rapping Thanos if Sentry is on his knees from something Thanos shrugged off.IMO Thanos walks away with more wins than Sentry does, anywhere from a 6-8 outta 10 IMO.

Captain Marvel as Photon is more powerful than he was in the past. Sentry and Photon was hurling around planet destroying attacks in that fight. Thanos energy blasts are only powerful enough to "Shatter Mountains." Sentry will beat Thanos.

I will give you this, Thanos really is a guy who doesn't have the ZOMG feats but he BEATS people who have insane feats. Drax for example.....

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxstarbusting.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8505/fight11lk2.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tha27wb.jpg

I don't know how powerful you have to be to rip a small star but Drax did it and Thanos beat him.

As for the Hulk vs Thanos a Marvel writer known as Peter David (who wrote the Hulk for 12 years was asked....

Q: "if he ( Peter David ) thought Thanos was on a physical strength level higher than Hulk at any time he was writing (meaning various incarnations)."

A: "Yeah, probably. Thanos is kind of in his own weight class."

(Strength)
http://www.corvusonline.net/thanos/powers.html

LOL, Thanos has "Enhanced Human reflexes!"

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That would probably depend on Sentry's power level at the time, though.

And I don't have the comic but did BB ever let loose a scream when he fought Thor way back?

To some extent, sure, the Sentry's power level/emotional state would matter. But I don't think a mere whisper from Black Bolt should outright kill the Sentry at any level.

Which comic was it? I may potentially have it to look up, but I don't remember it off the top of my head.

 

[CBG]

Again, Hulk did NOT die from the blast and it was not from a Thanos clone.Thanos absorbed the power of the Terraformer. Thanos was a twenty-feet cosmically powered being. In X-Man & Hulk '98, Hulk and Nate Grey was able to defeat Thanos...Nate gave Hulk an Upgrade by sending his psi-armor which amplified the Hulk's punches much more and Hulk was able to defeat Thanos.

Actually, it wasn't really a defeat, per se. When Nate reassembled the Stonehenge, Thanos was trapped once more.

Wait, Hulk Died from a Core Explosion?

How powerful was this explosion?

That was in an alternate universe: Planet Hulk What If?

I was commenting that DevilHulk used panels from the What If? to display Black Bolt killing Sentry and Doctor Strange with his voice, to further strengthen Hulk standing up to it in World War Hulk.

However, the flaw is that the feat was from a What If?.

Whereas the 616 Hulk received a power up from the warp core explosion, the Hulk in the What If? was promptly killed, thus further signifying the differences between characters over the alternate Marvel continuities.

If anything, DevilHulk indirectly sabotaged himself/herself.

 

[Phenomenal]

LOL, Thanks for the clarification CBG!

You still pwn people with that knowledge you have!!

Too bad the Naruto Forums (OBD) don't know much about comics. To be truthful I am glad I can't go back to that place.

 

[Fading]

Actually, it wasn't really a defeat, per se. When Nate reassembled the Stonehenge, Thanos was trapped once more.



That was in an alternate universe: Planet Hulk What If?

I was commenting that DevilHulk used panels from the What If? to display Black Bolt killing Sentry and Doctor Strange with his voice, to further strengthen Hulk standing up to it in World War Hulk.

However, the flaw is that the feat was from a What If?.

Whereas the 616 Hulk received a power up from the warp core explosion, the Hulk in the What If? was promptly killed, thus further signifying the differences between characters over the alternate Marvel continuities.

If anything, DevilHulk indirectly sabotaged himself/herself.

Yup, it was from the same part of the What IF!? as well. Where if Hulk saved his wife instead of himself. He tosses her in the sky instead of the ship, and she's saved from the explosion and the ship explodes right in front of Hulk vaporizing him. Then she goes to Earth, enslaves Blackbolt and uses him to vaporize Sentry against his will.

However it's like you said, and very nicely so, that Devilhulk is mixing What IF!? stories with actual continuity. Blackbolt didn't kill Sentry, and in that What IF!? Hulk was dead at that point, so not sure how he was trying to show Hulk > Sentry with that.


BTW my favorite part of that What IF was Banner vs. Hulk when they were alone on that planet. The back and forths were pretty funny.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Although we never saw Hulk beat Black Bolt, I'm betting Hulk never let him scream...or at the very least, called his bluff. Hulk is supposed to be noteably more cunning than he has been in the past, and any smart fighter, no matter how strong, wouldn't risk the potential damage caused by Black Bolt's voice.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Even without his voice Black Bolt should not have any trouble defeating Hulk, especially on the moon. BB has used his electron power to levitate Hulk in the past. On the moon he should be able to easily blast Hulk into space where the Hulk would die. The only possible answer that I can see is that every tactic BB could use would kill the Hulk and BB wouldn't do it.

 

[X]

Nate gave Hulk an Upgrade by sending his psi-armor which amplified the Hulk's punches much more and Hulk was able to defeat Thanos.

Aka knocked Thanos into a portal.

Nice job leaving out the juicy bits kiddo.

 

[DACMAN]

Actually, it'd be you who left out the juicy part about the HULK and Nate's win. Kiddo.

 

[DACMAN]

Although we never saw Hulk beat Black Bolt, I'm betting Hulk never let him scream....

Are you kidding? He came to hear him scream! And from what the others characters talk about the fight, it sounds like he screamed up a storm considering it knocked a huge junk of the moon into space.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It did? I thought that was just in the What If.

 

[DACMAN]

I haven't even read the What if.

 

[Vanguard07]

If BB screamed not only would Hulk have been dead but the moon would have been obliterated, Attilan and all BB's people included.

 

[CBG]

Actually, it'd be you who left out the juicy part about the HULK and Nate's win. Kiddo.

Well, all they manage to do is trap Thanos again, by rebuilding Stonehenge and the Hulk hitting Thanos back into it. If anything, it's victory via (re-established) ring-out.

Rereading it again, it wasn't really that much of a proper fight. Just Thanos trying to get out, and did, albeit briefly.

Are you kidding? He came to hear him scream! And from what the others characters talk about the fight, it sounds like he screamed up a storm considering it knocked a huge junk of the moon into space.

Said chunk could have very been Black Bolt whispering "Enough." to Hulk in WWH #1.

Although the WWH Handbook says that BB's maximum power of his voice is equivalent to a nuclear weapon, that's arguably erroneous. In the early days of character publication, his voice at a whisper had already been compared to a nuke. Furthermore, if my memory serves me correclty, his voice has been said to be capable to destroying a planet in the Inhumans maxi-series.

 

[Fading]

Ya, BB speaking in normal tone would have torn out a chunk bigger than that from the moon. A yell would have left the entire thing in rubble. Unless they are dumbing down his powers like they did with Strange, which wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

In the FF of the 70's against Power Cosmic Doom, Johnny was said to have the capability to destroy a half of the hemisphere. When Johnny tried to destroy the barrier Maximus put around the Great Refuge his full power did nothing. Black Bolt did it with one word. Johnny's power was way beyond nuclear level and did nothing

 

[X]

Actually, it'd be you who left out the juicy part about the HULK and Nate's win. Kiddo.

They won by getting rid of "Thanos".

Knocking someone through a portal is hardly a knockout win, which you insinuate by simply saying they "beat" Thanos.