The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[DACMAN]

Actually it was Banner standing over Reynolds, neither of whom are the same as their alternate forms except for in spirit.

I beg to differ. Banner's eyes were green the entire time and reverted right back to the HULK, standing over Reynolds. He still had his power, Sentry did not. It was almost as if the HULK was in control the entire time (green eyes) and he obviously didn't loose his power given he turned right back into the HULK. It was almost like the HULK just didn't want to kill Reynolds so he reverted back to Banner.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

I didn't know they invented something stronger than unlimited strength. .

And YOU never will, fanboy.

Pak said he wrote that for the real BB. And Marvel has said the skrull copies have the same powers and memories. So he beat him.

No. He did not and never has defeated Black Bolt. Get over it.

They still need cosmic power. Which is feed by things like the sun and so forth. So they actually rely on something OUTSIDE of them to get stronger. The HULK's ability comes only from within himself.

... and a lil' something called Gamma Radiation. You make it sound like he just lifted weights to be the Hulk. Speaking of 'roid rage... do you jump up and down while posting? 'Cause that's the image in my head...

 

[herakles]

Speaking of 'roid rage... do you jump up and down while posting? 'Cause that's the image in my head...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You mean Gamma Rage

 

[DACMAN]

And YOU never will, fanboy.

No. He did not and never has defeated Black Bolt. Get over it.


... and a lil' something called Gamma Radiation. You make it sound like he just lifted weights to be the Hulk. Speaking of 'roid rage... do you jump up and down while posting? 'Cause that's the image in my head...

Ohhh name calling. YOU WIN!

He defeated BB. He defeated someone with the exact same powers and memories. How is that different?

And the gamma created the HULK. Now all he needs is anger.

 

[herakles]

Ohhh name calling. YOU WIN!

He defeated BB. He defeated someone with the exact same powers and memories. How is that different?

Please shows us your proof bud? Also we all know the SI will disbute EVERY win WWH!!!!t: That must burn you inside to know that all those victories are going to be flawed!

And the gamma created the HULK. Now all he needs is anger.

Then HOW COME Silver Surfer was able to siphon out of the Gamma radiation from Hulk and turn him back into Banner if he doesn't need Gamma radiation???

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Ohhh name calling. YOU WIN! .

Oh, I know.
And if you weren't a fanboy, you'd be able to admit that Bolt took down Hulk (clearly) 3 times before he fought the Skrull Bolt who does not count as Black Bolt anymore than an LMD counts as Nick Fury.

And the gamma created the HULK. Now all he needs is anger.

That's right... he's clearly dependent on both Gamma AND anger... thanks for pointing out that additional weakness.
Hey Leader, order up some thorazine, stat!

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Juggernaut, too.

Champion as well.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Probably Kurse as well. It took the full power of Thor's hammer and Beta Ray Bill's to put him down. And that was channeled into a single blast.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Forgot about Beta Ray Bill. And Alpha Ray, and all of Galactus' heralds for that matter.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

They still need cosmic power. Which is feed by things like the sun and so forth. So they actually rely on something OUTSIDE of them to get stronger. The HULK's ability comes only from within himself.

Cosmic energy, and in Superman's case the yellow sun radiation, is ALL around them in abundance. They can increase strength at will. In Surfer's case he controls the power cosmic, Hulk doesn't control his own rage. Apocalypse, of course, needs no such radiation.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

In all truth, the Surfer only seems to expend this energy in feats that are normally thought impossible. (I.E. Busting through Galactus' barrier, only to lack the energy to survive and keep going, so he falls back through.)

 

[shapeshifter]

Cosmic energy, and in Superman's case the yellow sun radiation, is ALL around them in abundance. They can increase strength at will. In Surfer's case he controls the power cosmic, Hulk doesn't control his own rage. Apocalypse, of course, needs no such radiation.

stop making sense you'll only confuse him.

 

[CBG]

I beg to differ. Banner's eyes were green the entire time and reverted right back to the HULK, standing over Reynolds. He still had his power, Sentry did not. It was almost as if the HULK was in control the entire time (green eyes) and he obviously didn't loose his power given he turned right back into the HULK.

According to Pak, for that one moment, Hulk and Bruce "achieved an equilibrium for one, brief moment", whatever that means.

It was almost like the HULK just didn't want to kill Reynolds so he reverted back to Banner.

GP: "Goodbye old friend" is the Sentry's way of saying that he figures they're both going to die now that he's unleashed his power so completely. Bob and Bruce appear because these two megaheavyweights have pounded each other so hard and so long that they've forced each other to revert to their respective puny human forms.

He defeated BB. He defeated someone with the exact same powers and memories. How is that different?

Simple: they're not the same character.

Though, it'd be more accurate to say that Hulk defeated a Skrull who possessed the same powers and capabilities (and arguably experiences) as the real Black Bolt. By this, we can assume that WW Hulk would be able to defeat the real Black Bolt.

Though exactly how the confrontation went down on the moon, we won't find out unless they make new pages or they publish those unprinted pages, whichever the case.

 

[Phenomenal]

Satelite > WWHulk and Sentry.

 

[CBG]

And what do we learn? Money is cosmic -- it can make the world go round and round and round.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

There is also the Runner who proved to be more powerful than the Surfer by a fair margin.

 

[Vanguard07]

All of the Elders of the universe would presumably be in that same category considering they're all powered by the same thing. (the power primordial)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Not necessarily. All the heralds are powered by the same thing, but there's a definite hierarchy to them and many aren't anywhere near the Surfer's level.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The Elders don't all develop their potential the same either. The Collector hasn't used his powers for so long that he has little access to them anymore. The Grandmaster and the Contemplator have no superhuman strength but instead have mental powers.

 

[Phenomenal]

And what do we learn? Money is cosmic -- it can make the world go round and round and round.

We learned how weak and overrated Marvel characters are.

There is also the Runner who proved to be more powerful than the Surfer by a fair margin.

LOL, The runner KO'd the Surfer....

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Not exactly a blemish on the Surfer's record or anything. The Runner's ridiculously powerful.

 

[CBG]

We learned how weak and overrated Marvel characters are.

Depending on the character.

 

[Phenomenal]

Depending on the character.

Only the cosmics are a serious contender.

Not exactly a blemish on the Surfer's record or anything. The Runner's ridiculously powerful.

Actually it is. The Surfer is very weak and has been for ages.

 

[CBG]

Only the cosmics are a serious contender.

And probably certain characters with "hack" powers, for lack of a proper word. A power that, although not destructive in general, can be quite, quite deadly against the general populous. Of course, such characters are few and in-between (at least in my readings).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually it is. The Surfer is very weak and has been for ages.

Only because no one knew what to do with him after his ongoing tanked. His powers have fluctuated to fit with whatever cockamamie interpretation some idiot came up with that year.