The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[louiebling$]

The power of 100 million exploding suns....... that's says enough! He's never ever had a chance to unleash a fracvtion of his strength! The sentry is by the strongest...... and all the celestials( ex. The beyonder) should be excluded the thread says strongest not most powerful! Sentry is marvels strongest.... 100 million exploding suns would atomize the hulk.....

 

[CBG]

The power of 100 million exploding suns....... that's says enough! He's never ever had a chance to unleash a fracvtion of his strength! The sentry is by the strongest...... and all the celestials( ex. The beyonder) should be excluded the thread says strongest not most powerful! Sentry is marvels strongest.... 100 million exploding suns would atomize the hulk.....

World War Hulk #5.

Sentry unleashed his full power on World War Hulk. The confrontation left them both reverted back to their human forms, where Bruce Banner KO'd Robert. The city suffered severe damages.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

The power of 100 million exploding suns....... that's says enough! He's never ever had a chance to unleash a fracvtion of his strength! The sentry is by the strongest...... and all the celestials( ex. The beyonder) should be excluded the thread says strongest not most powerful! Sentry is marvels strongest.... 100 million exploding suns would atomize the hulk.....

Apparently not.
Turn loose of somma that bling Louie and buy World War Hulk #5.

 

[Zenien]

Maybe it's just that the Sentry makes no sense, but, if he had unleashed his full power level, wouldn't he have summoned the void...?

 

[DoomRulz]

Maybe it's just that the Sentry makes no sense, but, if he had unleashed his full power level, wouldn't he have summoned the void...?

If he had unleashed his full power level wouldn't he have split the planet into two halves?

 

[CBG]

Maybe it's just that the Sentry makes no sense, but, if he had unleashed his full power level, wouldn't he have summoned the void...?

Maybe, maybe not. Ambiguous, due to the 2004 Sentry mini.

If he had unleashed his full power level wouldn't he have split the planet into two halves?

If he was written consistent with his bout against Genis-Vell in New Thunderbolts, he'd do FAR more than that at full power.

 

[Vanguard07]

the power of a million exploding suns would have atomized the planet not just broken it in half. Hell you could atomize the planet with far less than the power of ONE exploding sun.

 

[DACMAN]

Please shows us your proof bud? Also we all know the SI will disbute EVERY win WWH!!!!t: That must burn you inside to know that all those victories are going to be flawed!




Then HOW COME Silver Surfer was able to siphon out of the Gamma radiation from Hulk and turn him back into Banner if he doesn't need Gamma radiation???

New Avengers: The Illuminati #5 (2007)

The Inhuman Black Bolt - is revealed to be both an impostor and a new Super-Skrull with a power set based upon the combined powers of the Illuminati rather than the Fantastic Four.

Which means he is far more powerful than the real Black Bolt himself.
Suck on that BIATCH!

Then HOW COME Silver Surfer was able to siphon out of the Gamma radiation from Hulk and turn him back into Banner if he doesn't need Gamma radiation???

First off the Surfer tried to do that again and the HULK just said that it was killing him and then the HULK stopped him. Second, I didn't say he doesn't need the gamma radiation. I said all he needs is his anger to get stronger. The gamma made him the HULK, he doesn't need more.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

When the Surfer did that again, there was no Banner for Hulk to revert to, and the Hulk didn't stop him, the Surfer stopped, because he didn't want to kill the Hulk.

 

[DACMAN]

the power of a million exploding suns would have atomized the planet not just broken it in half. Hell you could atomize the planet with far less than the power of ONE exploding sun.

You guys seriously need to look up the definition of hyperbole.

 

[CBG]

Which means he is far more powerful than the real Black Bolt himself.
Suck on that BIATCH!

Problem: We don't even know whether the Skrull used said powers against WWH. For all we know, he used BB's powers only, keping in character.

 

[DACMAN]

When the Surfer did that again, there was no Banner for Hulk to revert to, and the Hulk didn't stop him, the Surfer stopped, because he didn't want to kill the Hulk.

You know, I think you're right about the Banner not being there thing. But the HULK did stop him. He attacked him.

 

[DACMAN]

Problem: We don't even know whether the Skrull used said powers against WWH. For all we know, he used BB's powers only, keping in character.

True. But, to the end that he still beat Black Bolt's @$$. t:

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

New Avengers: The Illuminati #5 (2007)


Which means he is far more powerful than the real Black Bolt himself.

No, it does not.
Utilizing your "logic" every movie "based on" a book would be vastly superior to the book and we know that isn't true. Also, the Super Skrull's powers are greater than the FF's yet they continue to hand him his @ss. And the "suck on that" stuff... really childish.

 

[DACMAN]

First off, what the frick are you talking about? Movie based on a book? What the heck are you talking about? And the reason the Fantastic Four have beaten Super Skrull (he's beaten the crap out of them before keep in mind) is because it's all four powers against all four powers.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

True. But, to the end that he still beat Black Bolt's @$$.

No he did not.

You seriously need to look up the definition of the words fact and opinion. Then compare and contrast.

 

[CBG]

True. But, to the end that he still beat Black Bolt's @$$. t:

Correction: WWH defeated a Skrull with BB's powers (and more, but it's debatable whether the Skrull used more), not the real Black Bolt.

BUT you can argue that since WWH defeated a Skrull with BB's powers, WWH can defeat the real Black Bolt.

 

[DACMAN]

Correction: WWH defeated a Skrull with BB's powers (and more, but it's debatable whether the Skrull used more), not the real Black Bolt.

BUT you can argue that since WWH defeated a Skrull with BB's powers, WWH can defeat the real Black Bolt.

We do know he was MORE powerful. Whether or not he used them is actually unlikely considering Marvel has said the Skrull replacement has all the same memories and even thinks themselves to be that person, until activated.

But, that all still just helps my case for him wupping BB.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

First off, what the frick are you talking about? Movie based on a book? What the heck are you talking about? And the reason the Fantastic Four have beaten Super Skrull (he's beaten the crap out of them before keep in mind) is because it's all four powers against all four powers.

Since you can't keep up, I'll go slowly:

You state that Skrull Bolt's powers are "based on" all the Illuminati.

Then you make the bizarre leap in logic that "based on" somehow means "superior to".

Now, take a step back... breath... let the 'roids settle down into your neck so that legitimate cognition can occur. If you still can't grasp what I'm saying perhaps you should go read a book. (without pictures!)

 

[DACMAN]

Since you can't keep up, I'll go slowly:
You state that Skrull Bolt's powers are "based on" all the Illuminati.
Then you make the bizarre leap in logic that "based on" somehow means "superior to".
Now, take a step back... breath... let the 'roids settle down into your neck so that legitimate cognition can occur. If you still can't grasp what I'm saying perhaps you should go read a book. (without pictures!)

You know, do have some kind of inferiority complex? Roids? I take it you said that because you decided to click my avatar and read I lift weights. Don't be such a loser.

He would be superior to BB. Yes. He has the entire Illuminati's abilities. How is that hard to understand? If he used it or not is the real question. I don't think he did since he didn't even know he was a Skrull. And I didn't state they were based on the entire Illuminati, "New Avengers: The Illuminati #5" did.

 

[Zenien]

We do know he was MORE powerful. Whether or not he used them is actually unlikely considering Marvel has said the Skrull replacement has all the same memories and even thinks themselves to be that person, until activated.

But, that all still just helps my case for him wupping BB.

Marvel said that some of the Skrulls are as such and others aren't, and while he has Blackbolts powers, there's nothing to suggest that he is, or isn't, of the exact level of the real McCoy in all aspects. The only thing we do knbow is that these new brands of Skrull are indistiguishable by the current means from that who they are impersonating. The Real Blackbolt has defeated the Hulk 3 times, the real Blackbolt could have shattered the Moon had it not been for the Inhuman city being in the vicinity. There's no proof in this that WWHulk would have beaten the real Blackbolt in that situation.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I dunno if Blackagar can shatter the moon. I might've missed it somewhere. But as for the Skrulls not being able to replicate powers correctly, it's been hit and miss.

Kl'rt was a replication of the exact level of the powers of the F4 originally. They have moved past him of course, and such may be the case for the Skrull BB.

More likely though, is when they replicated the Silver Surfer's powers, and couldn't do it correctly. It was powerful, but not at the Surfer's level.

 

[CBG]

We do know he was MORE powerful.

Do you mean that the Skrull's BB powers are superior to the original's or that the Skrull > BB because the Skrull has the rest of the Illuminati's powers?

Whether or not he used them is actually unlikely considering Marvel has said the Skrull replacement has all the same memories and even thinks themselves to be that person, until activated.

Understandable.

But, that all still just helps my case for him wupping BB.

More or less. We don't really know how the Hulk defeated BB, since the rest of their confrontation was off-panel.

There's the possibility that the Hulk knew about BB being a Skrull. The "traitor" blurb was shared between Black Bolt and Iron (of course, this is really reading into it, perhaps bordering on apothemia). And Hulk 'interrogated' what he wanted to know out of Black Bolt. Certainly, BB can't divulge said information with his voice, naturally. The Skrull can, however.

Of course, this is speculation.

 

[CBG]

I dunno if Blackagar can shatter the moon.

If memory serves me right, in the Inhumans maxiseries, his voice was stated to be capable of "shattering a planet".

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

And the reason the Fantastic Four have beaten Super Skrull (he's beaten the crap out of them before keep in mind) is because it's all four powers against all four powers.

It has been well-established that each of the Super Skrulls abilities are more powerful than each of the FF's individual abilities yet they are still beating him like a drum.

Character, not simply power is at issue there, but judging from your posts, I'll bet that you don't understand that.

Are you man enough to admit that in the only 3 encounters between the REAL Black Bolt and the Hulk, that Black Bolt won each time?